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Old Jun 14, 2005, 11:14 AM   #1
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 12:45 PM   #2
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I have a slight feeling that the ATI Panel might take this poll, if only due to the fact that the majority of people who use this site are ATI users :P

I have to admit I liked the ATI CCC more before I switched to a GeForce 6800, But i use nHancer now, which is very nice
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After having had to temporarily use a GF2-MX not too long ago I was quite pleased by the nVidia controls. Though I'm sure not all features were enabled with such an old card some fairly easily be enabled by coolbits reg tweak if for instance one wanted to use the overclocking settings. To sum it up it had all expected features working and in a no-bull interface. I wouldn't mind going on with ranking the other options by place but I restrain myself in order not to bore you guys out.
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 02:49 PM   #4
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I have a 9800 pro on the wifes machine and 6800 ultras on my main rig. I much prefer the nvidia controls compared to the catalyst CCC. I find it much easier to navigate and find what I am lookin for.

The CCC DOES however seem like it would be easier for non-enthusiast types tho.
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voted Catalyst Control Panel (CP) i will only move to CCC when zerOpoint starts using it.
Never had a Nvidia card so i cant comment on that.
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I have a 6800 Ultra on one rig and a x800 XT PE in the other. With the ATI card I prefer to use the normal CP since I don't like the CCC that much. Still, the nVIDIA CP takes it hands down. It's well organized, easy to use and doesn't consume system resources.
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Hey Just wondering for the CATALYST Control Center, what are the primary reasons you don't find it usable?

Is it the performance, the system resources it uses, or the actual design of the UI?

If you can clearly explain what you don't like, we can evaluate your feedback and make some changes.

Suggestions are more than welcome too!

Please no "It just sucks" comments - doesn't really help much.

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Hey Just wondering for the CATALYST Control Center, what are the primary reasons you don't find it usable?

Is it the performance, the system resources it uses, or the actual design of the UI?

If you can clearly explain what you don't like, we can evaluate your feedback and make some changes.

Suggestions are more than welcome too!

Please no "It just sucks" comments - doesn't really help much.

Thanks,

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The only thing i never liked about the CCC is how much memory it hogs, apart from that i've never had any problems with it.
I'm looking forward to trying the 5.6s with CCC, at the moment i cant because im beta testing the new dhzerOpoint drivers
btw Keep up the good work the 5.6s rock
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i prefer the ATI CP much more than nVidia's FP and the ATI CCC. I find the CP much easier to use than the FP, and the CCC is nothing but a resource hog.
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Hey Just wondering for the CATALYST Control Center, what are the primary reasons you don't find it usable?

Is it the performance, the system resources it uses, or the actual design of the UI?

If you can clearly explain what you don't like, we can evaluate your feedback and make some changes.

Suggestions are more than welcome too!

Please no "It just sucks" comments - doesn't really help much.

Thanks,

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My biggest beefs are with the memory consumption and the long load time. It takes 10 to 15 seconds for me to load the Control Center. Guess it's not much of an issue but it can get frustrating when you're trying to change a setting on the fly and you just sit there looking at your desktop blankly until it slowly loads.

I also don't like the default silver skin and much prefer to use my system skin for memory/readibility reasons but that's more of a personnal peev. I also believe that the "All settings" section is cluttered. Apart from those little knicks, it actually works pretty well and serves it's purpose.
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Hey Just wondering for the CATALYST Control Center, what are the primary reasons you don't find it usable?

Is it the performance, the system resources it uses, or the actual design of the UI?

If you can clearly explain what you don't like, we can evaluate your feedback and make some changes.

Suggestions are more than welcome too!

Please no "It just sucks" comments - doesn't really help much.

Thanks,

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here are some reasons why i dont like the CCC

1. the intro screen
2. performence (too much RAM usuage)
3. the 3d preveiw(not the video preview). (should be turned off by default)

some things i like about CCC
1. the design
2. Very easy to use
3. video preveiw is a nice feature


even though i am using x800xt AIW right now, i have to give the vote to NV CP. Best CP i have ever seen.
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 09:19 PM   #12
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I voted cp, even though I have not tried cat 5.6 yet. Also I have not had a nvidia card for years, so have no idea of their drivers and control panel.
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 09:20 PM   #13
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As i have mentioned before in another thread...

I for one have tried out the other ccc's from all the previous drivers.everyone always required me to use the Restart Rune time.....which got frustrating to keep doing so.....always opted for the normal drivers and the good old and stable cp.

Until this new 5.6's ccc version.....starts up every time and after a short while this has now became more usable.....

My vote is for the ccc.

Lets hope ATI keep up the good work and constantly improve both the drivers and the ccc.
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CCC gets my vote. I have no loading or resource issues and it allows me to easily access the settings I require, especially with the taskbar shortcut. I would like to see a few more 3rd party developers take advantage of it.
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I voted for the CCC it's come a long way since it was first released.
Saying that even with the 5.6 it takes quite awhile to load up the control panel and there is still some delay in changing settings but i regard these things as minor.
Also with the new video feature it would be nice to have some of the technical terms explained in the control panel itself rather than to have go to the help documents eg interlacing.
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Hey Just wondering for the CATALYST Control Center, what are the primary reasons you don't find it usable?

Is it the performance, the system resources it uses, or the actual design of the UI?

If you can clearly explain what you don't like, we can evaluate your feedback and make some changes.

Suggestions are more than welcome too!

Please no "It just sucks" comments - doesn't really help much.

Thanks,

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voted for the CP, the only times I access the CP is to change the resolution and/or frequency(once every driver install), set AA/AF(probably once or twice a month just for testing). Rest all I leave at default. Now for this much work, do I need a 30 mb control panel that uses additional memory, significantly slows down startup time, requires additional software to be installed and takes more time to set options in. Also the UI design has a very cartoon-ish feel but thats just me because I dont like the XP theme.
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Forceware by far. its efficient. Uses virtually no memory. Hogs no CPU time, and has instant response times.
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whoa 100votes for CCC in just 5 hours?
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Omegas with Radlinker integrated gets my vote.

CCC is slow- took me 12 seconds to get the thing running after I clicked on the icon. Eats way more memory than it should.. makes windows start=up and shut down take more time... just a huge pain in my @$$!!

I tested it with the 5.6, went back to Omega's.. Waiting for new Omega's..
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Ever since the first 2 releases of CCC i stopped using the CCC. It was constantly not starting up or slownig my system down with that preview mode, i thought it was a bit fiddly whereas nvidias was an easy to navigate menu (when i had my gf2mx).

now i use the control panel and that satisfies me, with radlinker in there as well, no problems, easy to change all settings, still alot of tabs for my liking, 9 or 10 in all i think.

ATI just dont seem to have efficiency in mind.
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my vote goes for the catalyst control panel (CP), yep, nothing like the old but always trusty and very simple catalyst control panel, and yeah i've used all of 'em anyway

people is naming radlinker, so i have to say: catalyst control panel + atitray tools, nothing as simple and useful like that combo
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ATi Tray Tools if that counts.
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Prefer the regular ATI CP. Not really looking forward to using .NET
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Thanks for the feedback guys.


We're putting a lot of effort into further improving performance / reducing system resources / reducing overall download size - you will see these improvements in the coming months.

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Looks like everyone who used both like nVidia's control panel more (w/ one exception). I do too.
I mean, it's registry editor, it should never eat more resorces than Notepad! Everything else should go in a separate app (or start on demand only). My 2c.
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I haven't tried the last few versions of CCC, but the last time I did these were the features that sticked out compared to the CP (starting from the least attractive and moving to the more appealing ones):
- relatively slow and resource hungry;
- AI/GI settings, which I don't use too much, and which, I believe, have not been added to the CP only because a decision was made not to;
- 3D preview, a potentially useful feature, but the scene was too simple to benefit from AF;
- making game-specific profiles; As far as I can remember this didn't work quite as I think it should, which is the way RadLinker works: the right custom settings are applied automatically when a game is started, and all that without a resident program.
To summarise, to me, the CCC appears to be a product of ATi's marketing department rather than anything else, whose existence cannot be justified by it's features as most of them could have easily been implemented in the CP.
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I know some of the guys in the thread have done this already but for those who havent and are on ATI.

try the new CCC with the latest driver release from ATI, then post your feelings and let us know if you feel its improved. Im aware it might not have improved for you enough to vote for it, but some of the feedback in the thread is for older revisions of CCC. You might be surprised.

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CCC has caused me nothing but trouble. Installing it on my system (AMD 64 3000+, 512MB, XP Home) just causes blue screen crashes, computer not loading up, crashing on login screen. Same problems installing new ATi Drivers too . Old drivers, old control panel. Woo.
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IMHO, CCC is a complete waste of time and resources. Until I am forced to use it, I will continue to use the old control panel. And no, I haven't checked it out since a few months ago, and maybe the new one is better.. but I'll still use the old CP for now. Not a fan of being forced to use .net.
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