1st Wave Adrenaline Remixed

Maddogg6 · Jun 7, 2007, 07:33 AM

New drum sound - some new drum fills - remixed - and well,

/...edited - see this post.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/1062014-post8.html /edit

Enjoy - comments, suggestions, nasty remarks are always welcomed.

Russ · Jun 8, 2007, 12:18 AM

Do you have a higher quality version of the song?

The original version sounds much cleaner (this one sounds overly compressed to me, and I am thinking that maybe it is just because it is .mp3?).

I just want to be sure that I am hearing it as you intended it to be, before giving any specific feedback.

BTW: The song drums up visions of Van Halen and ZZ Top (for me anyway)...

Maddogg6 · Jun 8, 2007, 03:22 AM

Naa - I think I prolly compressed it too much .... I shouldn't post stuff I 'complete' with tired ears.... I'll post another soon.

Quote:

The song drums up visions...

Ooooh - love the pun

Thanks for the feedback none the less.....

Russ · Jun 8, 2007, 04:09 AM

Well do not change anything unless you agree (of course).

To start with, I thought the original version was great (I am sure I have told you this before), so...

I haven't noticed the drum changes as of yet (other than the mix), as I do not think that is something people notice right away (unless they are a drummer, or are pretty familiar with the song), so I cannot comment much about that. The only thing that struck me (with that) is that they seem a little quiet in the mix. I prefer the level that they were at in the original.

The guitar seems overdone (over processed) a little (IMO). I think maybe something in between the original version and this version might sound good (if you you are not happy with the original).

I do think the extra processing on the laughing and some of the other sounds, does sound good (doesn't really sound like laughing anymore, it just sounds like some cool effects now).

In any case, that is just my thoughts.

-Russ

Maddogg6 · Jun 8, 2007, 05:08 AM

The guitars are (actually everything is - other than level) verbatum... so this over processing you are hearing is all from from using a multi band compressor (and yes I agree its too compressed)

Another thing is the drum samples arent very 'crisp' to begin with - the toms have a long decaying ring to them that kinda bugs me. Its what I was strugling with getting the drums to sound punchy, but not over bearing... at the time the multiband comp seemed to help... but eh... Oh - The cymbals are a bit too loud compared to the rest of the kit I think too...

I just remixed this to see if the drums were gonna work for a song like this - so far I am struggling...

Oh - and as far as drums added - I added fills only in some areas that seemed to be getting repetitive toward the end of the song. (some cymbals, 1/2 - 3/4 measure tom fill etcc - nothing major)

Thanks again for listening - again - and I appreciate the input...

But I gotto run -maybe tomarrow I'll have something - Ill post here when I do.

Thanks again

Mark

Maddogg6 · Jun 8, 2007, 11:26 PM

Another Remix

/edited..../

Thanks again for the input Russ... (^-^)\m/

Russ · Jun 9, 2007, 12:35 AM

Ok it sounds much better, and I think this one may be the best out of the three, but I will have to re-listen to them later as my hearing feels a little off at the moment.

Maddogg6 · Jun 9, 2007, 09:30 PM

Thanks again Russ... but those tom drum samples were killing me...so....

Ok - I changed the tom sounds and remixed yet again... this one Im liking best so far... let me know if you have the chance and can stand listening.. if not - cool - the feed back has been appreciated none the less.

Russ · Jun 10, 2007, 04:03 PM

Sorry my ears are still acting up. I mentioned the ringing to you once before (if you recall). I think it is allergies or something, but it makes things sound a llittle off, and it makes it hard to notice all the details, etc.

In any case, it sounds good...

Maddogg6 · Jun 10, 2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

Sorry my ears are still acting up. I mentioned the ringing to you once before (if you recall). I think it is allergies or something, but it makes things sound a llittle off, and it makes it hard to notice all the details, etc.

In any case, it sounds good...

Oh, yes - now I remember - thats cool.

*hopes its not allergy of my song*

Those tom samples, they were ringing as well - so I can sympathize.

thanks for listening - and I hope your ears get better.

TravelRec. · Oct 28, 2007, 07:55 PM

Hi Maddog,

nice track with nice ideas - clean sound, maybe a bit too soft, but this can be the compression effect of mp3-file format. Cool on high volume levels

Maddogg6 · Nov 8, 2007, 07:19 PM

Hey TravelRec... thanks... but Im not sure how much louder I could have made it with out distorting... I see it peaks at just under 0db... ?? Did you turn up the volume on the player embedded in the page I posted - it defaults to 50% volume ??

TravelRec. · Nov 9, 2007, 08:10 PM

Hi Maddog,

you can do some psycho-acoustic volume upgrade, if you use a multiband compressor plugin (dependent on your mastering software) in the master track and push the levels up for 3 or more different frequency bands with some soft clipping. You will hear a great difference in sound density, while the signal don´t pushes itself into distortion. So play a bit

Jun 7, 2007, 07:33 AM	#1
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	1st Wave Adrenaline Remixed New drum sound - some new drum fills - remixed - and well, /...edited - see this post. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/1062014-post8.html /edit Enjoy - comments, suggestions, nasty remarks are always welcomed. Last edited by Maddogg6; Jun 11, 2007 at 12:14 AM.

Jun 8, 2007, 12:18 AM	#2
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Do you have a higher quality version of the song? The original version sounds much cleaner (this one sounds overly compressed to me, and I am thinking that maybe it is just because it is .mp3?). I just want to be sure that I am hearing it as you intended it to be, before giving any specific feedback. BTW: The song drums up visions of Van Halen and ZZ Top (for me anyway)... Last edited by Russ; Jun 8, 2007 at 01:41 AM.

Jun 8, 2007, 11:26 PM	Thread Starter #6
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	Another Remix /edited..../ Thanks again for the input Russ... (^-^)\m/ Last edited by Maddogg6; Jun 11, 2007 at 12:13 AM.

Oct 28, 2007, 07:55 PM	#11
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	Hi Maddog, nice track with nice ideas - clean sound, maybe a bit too soft, but this can be the compression effect of mp3-file format. Cool on high volume levels __________________ Always take a look behind.

Nov 9, 2007, 08:10 PM	#13
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	Hi Maddog, you can do some psycho-acoustic volume upgrade, if you use a multiband compressor plugin (dependent on your mastering software) in the master track and push the levels up for 3 or more different frequency bands with some soft clipping. You will hear a great difference in sound density, while the signal don´t pushes itself into distortion. So play a bit __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jun 8, 2007, 04:09 AM	#4
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Well do not change anything unless you agree (of course). To start with, I thought the original version was great (I am sure I have told you this before), so... I haven't noticed the drum changes as of yet (other than the mix), as I do not think that is something people notice right away (unless they are a drummer, or are pretty familiar with the song), so I cannot comment much about that. The only thing that struck me (with that) is that they seem a little quiet in the mix. I prefer the level that they were at in the original. The guitar seems overdone (over processed) a little (IMO). I think maybe something in between the original version and this version might sound good (if you you are not happy with the original). I do think the extra processing on the laughing and some of the other sounds, does sound good (doesn't really sound like laughing anymore, it just sounds like some cool effects now). In any case, that is just my thoughts. -Russ

Jun 8, 2007, 05:08 AM	Thread Starter #5
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	The guitars are (actually everything is - other than level) verbatum... so this over processing you are hearing is all from from using a multi band compressor (and yes I agree its too compressed) Another thing is the drum samples arent very 'crisp' to begin with - the toms have a long decaying ring to them that kinda bugs me. Its what I was strugling with getting the drums to sound punchy, but not over bearing... at the time the multiband comp seemed to help... but eh... Oh - The cymbals are a bit too loud compared to the rest of the kit I think too... I just remixed this to see if the drums were gonna work for a song like this - so far I am struggling... Oh - and as far as drums added - I added fills only in some areas that seemed to be getting repetitive toward the end of the song. (some cymbals, 1/2 - 3/4 measure tom fill etcc - nothing major) Thanks again for listening - again - and I appreciate the input... But I gotto run -maybe tomarrow I'll have something - Ill post here when I do. Thanks again Mark

Jun 9, 2007, 12:35 AM	#7
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Ok it sounds much better, and I think this one may be the best out of the three, but I will have to re-listen to them later as my hearing feels a little off at the moment.

Jun 9, 2007, 09:30 PM	Thread Starter #8
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	Thanks again Russ... but those tom drum samples were killing me...so.... Ok - I changed the tom sounds and remixed yet again... this one Im liking best so far... let me know if you have the chance and can stand listening.. if not - cool - the feed back has been appreciated none the less.

Jun 10, 2007, 04:03 PM	#9
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Sorry my ears are still acting up. I mentioned the ringing to you once before (if you recall). I think it is allergies or something, but it makes things sound a llittle off, and it makes it hard to notice all the details, etc. In any case, it sounds good...

Nov 8, 2007, 07:19 PM	Thread Starter #12
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	Hey TravelRec... thanks... but Im not sure how much louder I could have made it with out distorting... I see it peaks at just under 0db... ?? Did you turn up the volume on the player embedded in the page I posted - it defaults to 50% volume ??