Urgent HTML Help Please

Louie6666 · Jan 30, 2003, 09:28 PM

Just recoding my site http://hell.homeunix.org/ I've manged to break my favicon (<LINK href="favicon.ico" rel="SHORTCUT ICON">) & my scrollbar (specified in custom.css)

Could someone have a quick look at my source for me & point out error of my ways! it should look like this, as its the same css style sheet! http://hell.homeunix.com/

ToshiroOC · Jan 30, 2003, 09:30 PM

Louie, I'm getting a scrollbar on the side of the page.. is that what you are talking about? Because if so, I'm getting one

Louie6666 · Jan 30, 2003, 09:36 PM

If you look at the colouring of scrollbar on http://hell.homeunix.com/ its blue( using ie6 at least) but on http://hell.homeunix.org its the default one appearing even when they are using exactly the same style sheet!

the favourites icon is actually working fine just checked it out

ToshiroOC · Jan 30, 2003, 09:44 PM

Methinks you are doing Mozilla-unhappy things

I'm not seeing the slightest bit o difference between the two - both just have the standard Mozilla bar... if its the same with IE, I'll edit the post, but otherwise assume that it works like you were talking about in IE

Louie6666 · Jan 30, 2003, 09:54 PM

Everything on the site should work on all platforms apart from, the left hand scrollbar colouring which I think only works in ie 5.5 onwards & the favorates icon whcig most browsers seem to be supporting now, I've re-coded the site to try & make it work at any screen size and any platforms (now to download a bunch of browser & test)

here's a piccie of copy with working coloured scrollbar

***craig5320*** · Jan 30, 2003, 10:04 PM

I take it u've fixed it? the scroll bar colours work on both now, but didn't before

EDIT: It works but then doesn't but a refresh brings it up, hmmmm...

See:

Louie6666 · Jan 30, 2003, 10:09 PM

Yep one little line was trying to use the w3.org validator, by adding this line to page! & it broke a couple of things

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

But alas I don't comform to a standard lol, & adding that line causes that & favicon to stop working...anyone know what doc type I can use

EDIT I was messing as you posted lol..shouldn't really edit website live

***craig5320*** · Jan 30, 2003, 10:14 PM

Man, your messing with my head

Louie6666 · Jan 30, 2003, 10:21 PM

I guess some of features availible to ie6 don't conform to any standard! doh, oh well at least its looking little better than it did before now for some more content

Didn't mean to mess your head up lol, bad habit editing direct

UberLord · Jan 30, 2003, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Louie6666

But alas I don't comform to a standard lol, & adding that line causes that & favicon to stop working...anyone know what doc type I can use

You should be able to use Transitional without breaking anything really.

By choice I use XHTML 1.1
It doesn't support Transitional as the 1.1 spec defines everything as strict!
Hardcore, but very future proof imo - and good coding standards required

Louie6666 · Jan 30, 2003, 11:19 PM

Ok Here is site with this line in

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

And without the doc type

little diffrences I know but i'm picky

Jeff · Jan 31, 2003, 12:39 AM

without the doctype, IE goes into quirky mode, I seem to remever getting the sidebar stuff working in XHTML 1.0 Strict... Don't know why having an HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE would cause it to not work.

Louie6666 · Jan 31, 2003, 03:52 AM

Solved it yippee...had go to the bloody msdn....arhhhhh....bloody standards! had to change the body element to html & now coloured scrollbar appears

wow that was such a pain in the arse to find out how to sort out, plenty of peeps whining about it! Not sure now if its right but it works and ie6 isn't in quirk mode lol

Malus · Jan 31, 2003, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord
By choice I use XHTML 1.1
It doesn't support Transitional as the 1.1 spec defines everything as strict!
Hardcore, but very future proof imo - and good coding standards required

Ditto.

It's a shame that not everyone uses a new enough browser to make XHTML 1.1 easier to implement. I looked at one of my design in Konqueror and Netscape 4.x and thoroughly puked.

Jeff · Jan 31, 2003, 05:31 AM

Heh, thats a good point, but I still use XHTML 1.1 on most designs I do.

Jan 30, 2003, 09:28 PM	#1
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	Urgent HTML Help Please Just recoding my site http://hell.homeunix.org/ I've manged to break my favicon (<LINK href="favicon.ico" rel="SHORTCUT ICON">) & my scrollbar (specified in custom.css) Could someone have a quick look at my source for me & point out error of my ways! it should look like this, as its the same css style sheet! http://hell.homeunix.com/ __________________

Jan 30, 2003, 09:30 PM	#2
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Louie, I'm getting a scrollbar on the side of the page.. is that what you are talking about? Because if so, I'm getting one __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 30, 2003, 09:36 PM	Thread Starter #3
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	If you look at the colouring of scrollbar on http://hell.homeunix.com/ its blue( using ie6 at least) but on http://hell.homeunix.org its the default one appearing even when they are using exactly the same style sheet! the favourites icon is actually working fine just checked it out __________________

Jan 30, 2003, 09:44 PM	#4
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Methinks you are doing Mozilla-unhappy things I'm not seeing the slightest bit o difference between the two - both just have the standard Mozilla bar... if its the same with IE, I'll edit the post, but otherwise assume that it works like you were talking about in IE __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 30, 2003, 09:54 PM	Thread Starter #5
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	Everything on the site should work on all platforms apart from, the left hand scrollbar colouring which I think only works in ie 5.5 onwards & the favorates icon whcig most browsers seem to be supporting now, I've re-coded the site to try & make it work at any screen size and any platforms (now to download a bunch of browser & test) here's a piccie of copy with working coloured scrollbar __________________

Jan 30, 2003, 10:04 PM	#6
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,578 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	I take it u've fixed it? the scroll bar colours work on both now, but didn't before EDIT: It works but then doesn't but a refresh brings it up, hmmmm... See: __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Jan 30, 2003, 10:09 PM	Thread Starter #7
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	Yep one little line was trying to use the w3.org validator, by adding this line to page! & it broke a couple of things <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> But alas I don't comform to a standard lol, & adding that line causes that & favicon to stop working...anyone know what doc type I can use EDIT I was messing as you posted lol..shouldn't really edit website live __________________

Jan 30, 2003, 10:14 PM	#8
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,578 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Man, your messing with my head __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Jan 30, 2003, 10:21 PM	Thread Starter #9
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	I guess some of features availible to ie6 don't conform to any standard! doh, oh well at least its looking little better than it did before now for some more content Didn't mean to mess your head up lol, bad habit editing direct __________________

Jan 30, 2003, 11:19 PM	Thread Starter #11
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	Ok Here is site with this line in <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> And without the doc type little diffrences I know but i'm picky __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 12:39 AM	#12
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	without the doctype, IE goes into quirky mode, I seem to remever getting the sidebar stuff working in XHTML 1.0 Strict... Don't know why having an HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE would cause it to not work. __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 03:52 AM	Thread Starter #13
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	Solved it yippee...had go to the bloody msdn....arhhhhh....bloody standards! had to change the body element to html & now coloured scrollbar appears wow that was such a pain in the arse to find out how to sort out, plenty of peeps whining about it! Not sure now if its right but it works and ie6 isn't in quirk mode lol __________________

Jan 31, 2003, 05:31 AM	#15
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Heh, thats a good point, but I still use XHTML 1.1 on most designs I do. __________________