Adobe Golive or Dreamweaver

Zardon · Jun 27, 2002, 04:01 PM

I have the new Dreamweaver MX and I have the new Golive, and I still prefer dreamweaver, probably mainly because of the interface... have adobe just got no hope of catching up ? what do you think? do you use golive and love it?

UberLord · Jun 27, 2002, 04:03 PM

Those both produce HTML right?

Be a real man and code it by hand

Jeff · Jun 27, 2002, 04:56 PM

Well Dreamweaver is very, very good at letting you do your own coding, and it really kicks ass.

I did the news page at the beginning all by hand....then i did it in dreamweaver.

Zardon · Jun 27, 2002, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord
Those both produce HTML right?

Be a real man and code it by hand

I used to, but im now an old lazy man

UberLord · Jun 27, 2002, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
im now an old lazy man

I didn't know you were lazy as well

Jeff · Jun 27, 2002, 06:23 PM

We all get lazy when we get old.

digitalwanderer · Jun 27, 2002, 07:16 PM

...but then I got rid of my pencil & paper and got a computer.

Melikes Dreamweaver3. I used it on my last official paying gig and it was a breeze to produce high-quality results with zero effort or knowledge. Well, 'cept finding a copy to download...but it ain't like that's real hard. (The place I was working at used Macs so they bought the Mac version, I prefer doing most of my work on my own systems. Better atmosphere. [SIZE=xx-small]<*spark* Ffffffffffffftttt......> [/SIZE]

Photoshop keeps getting me dizzy, adobe makes great programs but sometimes they're a little too power/indepth for the silly shit I use 'em for.

Jeff · Jun 27, 2002, 08:50 PM

Well I used Dreamweaver 4 for a while...nice program. Got 6 (MX) now, its even better, and if you don't feel like switching interfaces, they still have the 4 interface in it.

Jeff · Jun 27, 2002, 08:51 PM

as for photoshop....I LOVE IT!

Zardon · Jun 27, 2002, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyborg
as for photoshop....I LOVE IT!

UberLord · Jun 27, 2002, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Cyborg
We all get lazy when we get old.

As long as thats all I get then its OK with me.
The extra weight and baldness can go away! Ya hear me old age!

Malus · Jun 28, 2002, 01:25 AM

I love my Photoshop too. You all have 7.0 as well?

Jeff · Jun 28, 2002, 02:00 AM

Well i did most of the graphics on this site with PS6.0

edperks · Jun 28, 2002, 04:20 AM

In my opion since i use Dreamweaver and have used Golive I prefer Dreamweaver By far its just more rich with tools and panels. I use dreamweaver 8 - 10 hours a day and it lets me manage over 200+ websites with less frustration then any other program I have used.

Louie6666 · Jul 9, 2002, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by edperks
In my opion since i use Dreamweaver and have used Golive I prefer Dreamweaver By far its just more rich with tools and panels. I use dreamweaver 8 - 10 hours a day and it lets me manage over 200+ websites with less frustration then any other program I have used.

I haven't actually tried golive how does it differ from dreamweaver!

I'm making a mental note I must organise my time better whilst working on websites, I only have 4 and seem to spend hours without getting alot done, I suppose when your dealing with other ppls sites once there set up you update content & makeover when required..where as on your own site your always questioning what you've done!

Zardon · Jul 9, 2002, 11:30 AM

I used PS6 and 7 to do the buttons on this site and some of the main logo, and Flash combined with PS7 and a little illustrator to redesign the logo at the bottom of the site. nothing really complicated, especially when I look at some of the artwork ive designed and sold for other sites and bureaus, companies etc.

I wouldnt use any other tool apart from photoshop to design my graphics, ive been using and teaching it since 90, nothing compares or comes close. I got cyborg onto it a while ago, he was using other (inferior) tools. took me a while to persuade him, but he got it and wont go back now

as for hand coding, I dont do alot of that anymore, apart from some tricks I cant do in Dreamweaver

digitalwanderer · Jul 9, 2002, 11:43 AM

Yeah, I gotta admit that I don't think I've ever put a page up that I hadn't checked and edited using good old "notepad" first. Every software package just has to go and add their little commercial to the pages.

I've never tried actually setting up dreamweaver to actually upload and manage my website, my skills at such things weren't as good when I was playing around with it so I just used it to produce 'em and uploaded thru FTP. Sounds like a VERY good thing to look into trying if'n I want an easy way to keep the homepage a bit neater. (My page would be updated freaking daily if it was a simple as opening it in dreamweaver and hitting an "update" button to upload it.

)

Thanks for the tip....

Louie6666 · Jul 10, 2002, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Yeah, I gotta admit that I don't think I've ever put a page up that I hadn't checked and edited using good old "notepad" first. Every software package just has to go and add their little commercial to the pages.

I've never tried actually setting up dreamweaver to actually upload and manage my website, my skills at such things weren't as good when I was playing around with it so I just used it to produce 'em and uploaded thru FTP. Sounds like a VERY good thing to look into trying if'n I want an easy way to keep the homepage a bit neater. (My page would be updated freaking daily if it was a simple as opening it in dreamweaver and hitting an "update" button to upload it. )

Thanks for the tip....

lol for the past week i've had index.asp sat on my desktop..Links go down so quick I've mapped a drive to the webserver for that true drag & drop feel...notepad is just wicked for things like that! Its funny the reaction you get from non techies, when they see you using notepad on a website!

PeakPerformance · Jul 11, 2002, 08:16 AM

I used to code things by hand and still do. But then again I don't hva to work on 200+ sites

i tired dreamweaver MX and finally the html that it produces isn't full of all the bull. That was normally there so MX gets a 9 from me.

Jeff · Jul 11, 2002, 09:06 AM

Well dreamweaver never adds a little ad in the code, and I love editing a site's code in DW, cause its got line numbers, and color coding, etc.

Malus · Jul 11, 2002, 10:45 AM

Every notepad replacement has numbers too.

tigertian · Jul 19, 2002, 04:14 AM

Golive is for Professor and Dreamweaver is for learner

UberLord · Jul 19, 2002, 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by tigertian
Golive is for Professor and Dreamweaver is for learner

vi is for professionals

tigertian · Jul 20, 2002, 04:01 AM

Sorry!my english is bad.Thank you!

UberLord · Jul 20, 2002, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tigertian
Sorry!my english is bad.Thank you!

Thats OK - my Chinese is much much worse

ann0yanc3 · Jul 24, 2002, 06:59 PM

I use M$ FrontPage to design my sites only because I'm so used to the interface.

But, I always clean up the code in EditPlus afterwards.

FrontPage generates a lot of code that isn't compatible with Netscape and Opera, go figure! I'll prolly end up switching to Dreamweaver.

radTube · Jul 24, 2002, 07:54 PM

I like GoLive a lot more... Might be just that it was the first (actually it still is the only) wysiwyg-editor I learned to use. The interface is quite simple, and actually I find Dreamweaver much more complicated. Anyway, I still do my coding by hand. GoLive is great for HTML, but ASP and javascript still need to be done by hand, or it's a nightmare to edit the pages afterwards...

BTW: HomeSite seems like great html-editor.

Jeff · Jul 24, 2002, 10:48 PM

I am getting more into PHP...and WYSIWYG is kinda useless for Dyanamic Pages...cause what you see isn't what you get at all.

Jun 27, 2002, 04:01 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Adobe Golive or Dreamweaver I have the new Dreamweaver MX and I have the new Golive, and I still prefer dreamweaver, probably mainly because of the interface... have adobe just got no hope of catching up ? what do you think? do you use golive and love it?

Jun 27, 2002, 04:03 PM	#2
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Those both produce HTML right? Be a real man and code it by hand __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Jun 27, 2002, 04:56 PM	#3
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Well Dreamweaver is very, very good at letting you do your own coding, and it really kicks ass. I did the news page at the beginning all by hand....then i did it in dreamweaver. __________________

Jun 27, 2002, 06:23 PM	#6
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	We all get lazy when we get old. __________________

Jun 27, 2002, 07:16 PM	#7
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	I used to code by hand... ...but then I got rid of my pencil & paper and got a computer. Melikes Dreamweaver3. I used it on my last official paying gig and it was a breeze to produce high-quality results with zero effort or knowledge. Well, 'cept finding a copy to download...but it ain't like that's real hard. (The place I was working at used Macs so they bought the Mac version, I prefer doing most of my work on my own systems. Better atmosphere. [SIZE=xx-small]<spark* Ffffffffffffftttt......>* [/SIZE] Photoshop keeps getting me dizzy, adobe makes great programs but sometimes they're a little too power/indepth for the silly shit I use 'em for. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jun 27, 2002, 08:50 PM	#8
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Well I used Dreamweaver 4 for a while...nice program. Got 6 (MX) now, its even better, and if you don't feel like switching interfaces, they still have the 4 interface in it. __________________

Jun 27, 2002, 08:51 PM	#9
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	as for photoshop....I LOVE IT! __________________

Jun 28, 2002, 01:25 AM	#12
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Jun 28, 2002, 02:00 AM	#13
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Well i did most of the graphics on this site with PS6.0 __________________

Jun 28, 2002, 04:20 AM	#14
edperks HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 780 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	In my opion since i use Dreamweaver and have used Golive I prefer Dreamweaver By far its just more rich with tools and panels. I use dreamweaver 8 - 10 hours a day and it lets me manage over 200+ websites with less frustration then any other program I have used.

Jul 9, 2002, 11:30 AM	Thread Starter #16
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I used PS6 and 7 to do the buttons on this site and some of the main logo, and Flash combined with PS7 and a little illustrator to redesign the logo at the bottom of the site. nothing really complicated, especially when I look at some of the artwork ive designed and sold for other sites and bureaus, companies etc. I wouldnt use any other tool apart from photoshop to design my graphics, ive been using and teaching it since 90, nothing compares or comes close. I got cyborg onto it a while ago, he was using other (inferior) tools. took me a while to persuade him, but he got it and wont go back now as for hand coding, I dont do alot of that anymore, apart from some tricks I cant do in Dreamweaver

Jul 9, 2002, 11:43 AM	#17
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	:) Yeah, I gotta admit that I don't think I've ever put a page up that I hadn't checked and edited using good old "notepad" first. Every software package just has to go and add their little commercial to the pages. I've never tried actually setting up dreamweaver to actually upload and manage my website, my skills at such things weren't as good when I was playing around with it so I just used it to produce 'em and uploaded thru FTP. Sounds like a VERY good thing to look into trying if'n I want an easy way to keep the homepage a bit neater. (My page would be updated freaking daily if it was a simple as opening it in dreamweaver and hitting an "update" button to upload it. ) Thanks for the tip.... __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jul 11, 2002, 08:16 AM	#19
PeakPerformance DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	I used to code things by hand and still do. But then again I don't hva to work on 200+ sites i tired dreamweaver MX and finally the html that it produces isn't full of all the bull. That was normally there so MX gets a 9 from me.

Jul 11, 2002, 09:06 AM	#20
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Well dreamweaver never adds a little ad in the code, and I love editing a site's code in DW, cause its got line numbers, and color coding, etc. __________________

Jul 11, 2002, 10:45 AM	#21
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Jul 24, 2002, 06:59 PM	#26
ann0yanc3 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I use M$ FrontPage to design my sites only because I'm so used to the interface. But, I always clean up the code in EditPlus afterwards. FrontPage generates a lot of code that isn't compatible with Netscape and Opera, go figure! I'll prolly end up switching to Dreamweaver. __________________ Sager NP5620 Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz (Northwood) 512MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM ATi Radeon 7500 Mobility 15" UXGA (1600x1200) TFT Active Matrix 8X DVD-ROM / 8x8x24 CD-RW Combo Drive Built-in 56k V.90 Modem Built-in 10/100BaseT NIC

Jul 24, 2002, 07:54 PM	#27
radTube just keepin' it cool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	I like GoLive a lot more... Might be just that it was the first (actually it still is the only) wysiwyg-editor I learned to use. The interface is quite simple, and actually I find Dreamweaver much more complicated. Anyway, I still do my coding by hand. GoLive is great for HTML, but ASP and javascript still need to be done by hand, or it's a nightmare to edit the pages afterwards... BTW: HomeSite seems like great html-editor. __________________ [color=orange] [/color]

Jul 24, 2002, 10:48 PM	#28
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	I am getting more into PHP...and WYSIWYG is kinda useless for Dyanamic Pages...cause what you see isn't what you get at all. __________________