Question about Cost of Having Own Webpage/domain

Jitter · Nov 12, 2004, 01:48 AM

I have a question about how much it would roughly cost per year to have the following set up.

I am on an online golf team and there are 3 major "tours". Each one is set up by a individual and paid for out of their own pockets. How it works is you play a game goto the site, select your name, put in your password, then you scroll down to select your opponent. The scoreboard is updated automatically. Id say there is roughly 30 teams and about 600 or so total people but alot are inactive. The one tour is shutting down and the guy is claiming it costs him about $1800 per year to keep it running. I dont see how it is possible to cost this much, but I could be wrong. What do you guys think?

pr0digal jenius · Nov 12, 2004, 02:44 AM

hosting/domain name is about $125 a year, so the rest would come down to the cost fo the site, which i honestly don't know how much that would be as the only site's I've ver had I made myself.

MythicaL · Nov 13, 2004, 10:14 AM

$1800 a year sounds a little bs to me; $180 seems more reasonable

I'm sure you can get domain names, etc. for cheaper than $180 though.

CDsDontBurn · Nov 13, 2004, 10:45 AM

what about maintenance of the website costs? like adding/replacing HDDs, and electrical bill. cuz how is a site going to run off of just the domain name by itself? it needs a place to be hosted at. so i'm thinking more in the range of the $300-$500

Vampyromaniac · Nov 13, 2004, 09:08 PM

some places offer hosting for 10 or 15 dollars a month, and a domain name with it for 30-40 bucks per year. for a simple low-traffic site, that's all it would take.
features like php, etc. may add a few dollars more to the price.
and of course, for more transfer or storage space (for a bigger/busier site) the plan prices would go up.

pr0digal jenius · Nov 13, 2004, 11:46 PM

my server is ~11GB bandwidth(they don't actually measure, but if it gets to the point that it causes a problem, they will bill you for it...but the guy said 11-15GBs a month is no problem at all), 500MBs hard drive space, scheduled backups(i don't use it, but you can have ti backed up daily, weekly, etc, if you so choose) and a domain name, pop3 email(unlimitedaddresses @yourdomain), and options for databsing if you need it all for $125 a year

http://nexpoint.net/products/shared/linspecial.cfm

they also offer a cheaper package(75 a year i think, but you only get like, 2GB bandwidth and 50MB space), or all the way up to full blown dedicated hosting(100+ a month

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sworkhard · Jan 26, 2005, 01:55 AM

www.dotcanada.com is what I use. about 180 CAD per year including domain registration
50GB bandwidth
1000 email
PHP (or ASP/ASP.net if you choose windows hosting. I'm not sure if windows hosting has PHP)
1000MB
Pretty good service

www.dotAmerica.com is the american version.

Koolaid · Feb 10, 2005, 04:20 AM

I used to work for PayPal tech support for websites/paypal buttons

I always sent people that would ask to this Hosting company http://www.saratogahosting.com

It is hard to put a price on knowledge isnt it. If I knew how to create a web site and I knew you were wealthy, or that you were going to make a lot of money from it. I may charge you just for The site a one time fee of a large sum. I used to listen to a lot of people with horror stories paying thousands of dollars for a web site that I wouldn't even say my dog made. Pages that maybe took someone 5 minutes to do and charging ridicioulsly amounts of money for. I felt really bad for them.

If the website is getting a lot of ' hits ' Then with advertising you could probably get the site to pay for itself. If there is a lot of downloading or file transfers, I can see where the bandwidth could be costing a lot. Lets face it- Hard drive space and whether or not the company supports the script language you want to use is nothing compared to how much bandwidth costs.

Unless the site itself is generating a lot of money I do not see why what you describe would cost in upwards of over 1000 a year. Sounds to me like someone is greedy weedy.

I would presume that someone is charging a fee for updating the scripts that handle the database of people and their opponents. Because I really do not see where the large fee is coming from unless its bandwidth like I suggested. So far you simply described a login script- and a script to update a database. These are not difficult things. But if you don't know how to do it..and you need it... how much would you pay?

md5 · Feb 10, 2005, 11:25 AM

And of course there's always www.ev1servers.net (where DH is hosted)

Good quality hosting

Matth · Feb 10, 2005, 06:32 PM

Slow in some places though...

Ideally, you do want to be hosting in the same country as your users (that is, the physical location of the web server) - doesn't matter one jot if the domain name is local or some island with an interesting suffix.

For an international site, US based hosing is probably as cheap as any, and SHOULD have good connectivity - My path from NTLWORLD, via COGENTCO, to DH at EV1, is absolutely flaming useless!, leading to DH running like a snail on valium for me - I know 300k isn't hyper-fast, but it feels like dialup or worse - far too much "dead time" before it actually starts to move!

redsolar · Feb 10, 2005, 06:35 PM

www.1and1.com. I never looked for anything other than that. Very generous space/bandwidth allowance, excellent support. Domain names are 5.99 a year per registartion, and 9.99/mo for very good hosting plan.

pr0digal jenius · Feb 13, 2005, 06:16 AM

www.valueweb.com is where DHzer0point is hosted

Nov 12, 2004, 01:48 AM	#1
Jitter HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 533 Rep Power: 0	Question about Cost of Having Own Webpage/domain I have a question about how much it would roughly cost per year to have the following set up. I am on an online golf team and there are 3 major "tours". Each one is set up by a individual and paid for out of their own pockets. How it works is you play a game goto the site, select your name, put in your password, then you scroll down to select your opponent. The scoreboard is updated automatically. Id say there is roughly 30 teams and about 600 or so total people but alot are inactive. The one tour is shutting down and the guy is claiming it costs him about $1800 per year to keep it running. I dont see how it is possible to cost this much, but I could be wrong. What do you guys think? __________________ Sony Vaio PCV-RX670 P4 1.8ghz XP Pro SP2 1 GB PC2100 RAM ATI All in Wonder 9700 pro Audigy 2 ZS Aquamark ~29,500 3dMark03 ~ 5,000

Nov 13, 2004, 10:14 AM	#3
MythicaL I like computers. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In front of a monitor Posts: 3,399 Rep Power: 87 System Specs	$1800 a year sounds a little bs to me; $180 seems more reasonable I'm sure you can get domain names, etc. for cheaper than $180 though. __________________ Always knew I didn't belong in this world. I wasn't made for this. But I'll never forget those who betrayed me, and those who never failed my trust.

Nov 13, 2004, 10:45 AM	#4
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Nov 13, 2004, 09:08 PM	#5
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	some places offer hosting for 10 or 15 dollars a month, and a domain name with it for 30-40 bucks per year. for a simple low-traffic site, that's all it would take. features like php, etc. may add a few dollars more to the price. and of course, for more transfer or storage space (for a bigger/busier site) the plan prices would go up. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Feb 10, 2005, 04:20 AM	#8
Koolaid DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	I used to work for PayPal tech support for websites/paypal buttons I always sent people that would ask to this Hosting company http://www.saratogahosting.com It is hard to put a price on knowledge isnt it. If I knew how to create a web site and I knew you were wealthy, or that you were going to make a lot of money from it. I may charge you just for The site a one time fee of a large sum. I used to listen to a lot of people with horror stories paying thousands of dollars for a web site that I wouldn't even say my dog made. Pages that maybe took someone 5 minutes to do and charging ridicioulsly amounts of money for. I felt really bad for them. If the website is getting a lot of ' hits ' Then with advertising you could probably get the site to pay for itself. If there is a lot of downloading or file transfers, I can see where the bandwidth could be costing a lot. Lets face it- Hard drive space and whether or not the company supports the script language you want to use is nothing compared to how much bandwidth costs. Unless the site itself is generating a lot of money I do not see why what you describe would cost in upwards of over 1000 a year. Sounds to me like someone is greedy weedy. I would presume that someone is charging a fee for updating the scripts that handle the database of people and their opponents. Because I really do not see where the large fee is coming from unless its bandwidth like I suggested. So far you simply described a login script- and a script to update a database. These are not difficult things. But if you don't know how to do it..and you need it... how much would you pay? Last edited by Koolaid; Feb 10, 2005 at 04:29 AM.

Nov 12, 2004, 02:44 AM	#2
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	hosting/domain name is about $125 a year, so the rest would come down to the cost fo the site, which i honestly don't know how much that would be as the only site's I've ver had I made myself.

Nov 13, 2004, 11:46 PM	#6
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	my server is ~11GB bandwidth(they don't actually measure, but if it gets to the point that it causes a problem, they will bill you for it...but the guy said 11-15GBs a month is no problem at all), 500MBs hard drive space, scheduled backups(i don't use it, but you can have ti backed up daily, weekly, etc, if you so choose) and a domain name, pop3 email(unlimitedaddresses @yourdomain), and options for databsing if you need it all for $125 a year http://nexpoint.net/products/shared/linspecial.cfm they also offer a cheaper package(75 a year i think, but you only get like, 2GB bandwidth and 50MB space), or all the way up to full blown dedicated hosting(100+ a month )

Jan 26, 2005, 01:55 AM	#7
sworkhard DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	www.dotcanada.com is what I use. about 180 CAD per year including domain registration 50GB bandwidth 1000 email PHP (or ASP/ASP.net if you choose windows hosting. I'm not sure if windows hosting has PHP) 1000MB Pretty good service www.dotAmerica.com is the american version.

Feb 10, 2005, 11:25 AM	#9
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 46	And of course there's always www.ev1servers.net (where DH is hosted) Good quality hosting __________________

Feb 10, 2005, 06:32 PM	#10
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,411 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	Slow in some places though... Ideally, you do want to be hosting in the same country as your users (that is, the physical location of the web server) - doesn't matter one jot if the domain name is local or some island with an interesting suffix. For an international site, US based hosing is probably as cheap as any, and SHOULD have good connectivity - My path from NTLWORLD, via COGENTCO, to DH at EV1, is absolutely flaming useless!, leading to DH running like a snail on valium for me - I know 300k isn't hyper-fast, but it feels like dialup or worse - far too much "dead time" before it actually starts to move!

Feb 10, 2005, 06:35 PM	#11
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Feb 13, 2005, 06:16 AM	#12
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	www.valueweb.com is where DHzer0point is hosted