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2MAX: Stereo Delay
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Ñï*ñèáî åùå ð*ç ç* ñîâåòû. Í*øåë ÿ Danetips, ä*æå ïåðåâåë. Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî *ññåìáëåðó òîæå ïðî÷èò*ë. Âîáùåì-òî âñ¸ ïî*ÿò*î. Îä*î òîëüêî *å ïî*ÿë - ÷òî ò*êîå ACCUM (ò*ê, ïî-ìîåìó). Âîáùåì ÿñ*î - ÷òî ýòî *êêóìóëÿòîð ñ óäâîå**îé ð*çðÿä*îñòüþ, òîëüêî ê*ê òóä* ïîï*ä*þò ä***ûå? Î÷å*ü ïðî*èêñÿ â*øèì ðåâåðáåð*òîðîì, êîòîðûé ïîê* åùå áåò*. Òîëüêî âîò î*, *åãîä*èê ïî÷òè âñå ðåãèñòðû xtram ñúåä*åò. Íó - ä* êóä* äåâ*òüñÿ. Áóäåì æä*òü ôè**ëü*îãî ðåëèç*, â êîòîðîì âñå ðó÷êè ð*áîò*þò. Çâóê î÷å*ü åñòåñòâå**ûé. Íåò *åïðèÿò*îãî èñêóñòâå**îãî îòòå*ê* ïðè áîëüøîì âðåìå*è ç*òóõ**èÿ, ê*ê, **ïðèìåð, ó Native. Âîáùåì - îòëè÷**ÿ âåùü. Îäè* ìè*óñ: Âûõîä*îé óðîâå*ü ñëèøêîì ì*ëå*üêèé. Ïðèõîäèòñÿ ïîä*èì*òü.  ê*÷åñòâå ïðîáû ïåð* **êðîï*ë äèëýé. Â*ø èç êîìïëåêò* - âñ¸ ð*â*î êðèâîé. Ïðè ëþáîì ñìåùå*èè ïîëçó*ê* ïåðåñò*¸ò ð*áîò*òü, ïîñêîëüêó äâèæå*èÿ ïîëçó*ê* *å ì*ñøò*áèðóþòñÿ. Âîò, ïëç: ; Generated by kX DSP Editor - microcode dump name "Stereo Delay"; copyright "(c) Igor Stovpets, 2003"; engine "kX"; created "July 13 2003"; guid "7eb01a49-2346-47ae-809a-90b22ed1cd46"; xtramsize 28800 ; Registers output outL,outR; input in; control wetlevel=0x7fffffff,drylevel=0, feedback=0x40000000, delayL=0x40000000, delayR=0x60000000; temp a,b,c; ; External TRAM delay line (28800 samples; ~0.600000 msec) xdelay write wrt at 0x0; xdelay read rdL at 0x0; xdelay read rdR at 0x0; ; Code macs a, 0, delayL, 0.028; macs b, 0, delayR, 0.028; acc3 &rdL, a, &wrt, 0x0; acc3 &rdR, b, &wrt, 0x0; macs c, 0, drylevel, in; macs outL, c, wetlevel, rdL; macs outR, c, wetlevel, rdR; macs c, 0, rdL, feedback; macs c, 0, rdR, feedback; acc3 wrt, c, in, 0; end Åñëè ê *åìó åùå LowPass Filter, áóäåò ñîâñåì øîêîë*ä*î. È è*òåðôåéñ îôîðìèòü...  ))Âîáùåì - åñòü òåïåðü ïî÷òè âñå äëÿ ñ÷*ñòüÿ... Õîðóñ áû òîæå ÷åëîâå÷åñêèé.... À òî â*ø òîæå - õðèïèò ã*ä. Æ*ëü - âðåìå*è *åò. Òîëüêî â âûõîä*ûå âîò. Ò*ê è*òåðåñ*î... Òîëüêî âîò Cubase SX *å õî÷åò *îðì*ëü*î ð*áîò*òü ñ Sound Font. Íå ä*åò âûáèð*òü ïðîãð*ììó, åñëè âûáèð*åøü â ê*÷åñòâå MIDI OUT Kx Synth. Ïðèõîäèòñÿ èçâð*ù*òüñÿ ÷åðåç MIDI Send. Á**êè - òîæå êî*å÷*î âìåñòå ñ ïåñ*åé *å ñîõð**ÿþòñÿ. Íó ä* **ì *å ïðèâûê*òü. Åùå ð*ç ñï*ñèáî ç* Ðåâåð - *å îæèä*ë. Áóäó æä*òü ç*êî*÷å**îé âåðñèè. Ïîïðîáóþ âåð*óòüñÿ ê ñò*ðîìó ñïîñîáó ìóçèöèðîâ**èÿ - ñ èñïîëüçîâ**èåì ñåìïëåð* SBLive!. ×òî-òî â ýòîì åñòü... )
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[èçâè*ÿþñü ** *åñêîëüêî ç*ïîçä*ëûé îòâåò]
>Îä*î òîëüêî *å ïî*ÿë - ÷òî ò*êîå ACCUM (ò*ê, ïî-ìîåìó). >Âîáùåì ÿñ*î - ÷òî ýòî *êêóìóëÿòîð ñ óäâîå**îé ð*çðÿä*îñòüþ, òîëüêî ê*ê òóä* ïîï*ä*þò ä***ûå? Òóò ê*ê-áû âñå **îáîðîò, ëþáûå ä***ûå êóä* óãîä*î ÈÇ *êêóìóëÿòîð* ïîï*ä*þò. Â *êêóìóëÿòîð ñîáñòâå**î ç*ïèñûâ*þòñÿ âñå ïðîìåæóòî÷*ûå ðåçóëüò*òû ð*áîòû ALU. Í*ïðèìåð âûïîë*å*èå è*ñòðóêöèè 'macs a, b, c, d' ìîæ*î óñëîâ*î ïðåäñò*âèòü ê*ê: Code:
accum = b; accum += c * d; a = saturate(msb(accum)); è "*åîáðóáëå**ûé" ðåçóëüò*ò (òîæå ïðèìå*èìî è ê îñò*ëü*ûì "îáû÷*ûì" è*ñòðóêöèÿì). >Î÷å*ü ïðî*èêñÿ â*øèì ðåâåðáåð*òîðîì, êîòîðûé ïîê* åùå áåò*. Ñï*ñèáî. >Òîëüêî âîò î*, *åãîä*èê ïî÷òè âñå ðåãèñòðû xtram ñúåä*åò. Íó â îáùåì ê*ê è âñå åãî áð*òüÿ... åñòü ìûñëè ñäåë*òü "óêîðî÷å**ûé" ò*êîé ðåâåð - â ïðè*öèïå åñòü âñÿêèõ òðþêîâ äëÿ "EZ" âåðñèè â ê*ðì**å (îä*î ïðåâð*ùå*èå èç "true-stereo" â "pseudo-stereo" (ê*ê âñå êðå*òèâîâñêèå ðåâåð*) ñúýêî*îìèò óæå ïîëîâè*ó tram ðåñóðñîâ âñåõ âèäîâ...) - âîîáùåì òîæå âåñåë*ÿ ç*ä*÷ê*... >Áóäåì æä*òü ôè**ëü*îãî ðåëèç*, â êîòîðîì âñå ðó÷êè ð*áîò*þò. Îõîõî - ïðåäñòîèò ïîñèäåòü - ñêîðî *å îáåù*þ (ì*îãî, êî*å÷*î, ÷åãî ò*ì è*òåðåñ*îãî õîòåëîñü áû äîá*âèòü)... > ê*÷åñòâå ïðîáû ïåð* **êðîï*ë äèëýé. Çäîðîâî. >Â*ø èç êîìïëåêò* - âñ¸ ð*â*î êðèâîé. ** *åì **äî áîëüøèìè êð*ñ*ûìè áóêâ*ìè **ïèñ*òü: "ÝÒÎ ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÏÐÈÌÅÐ". Âîîáùå ñ äèëåÿìè ïðÿìî-ò*êè ìèñòè÷åñê*ÿ èñòîðèÿ - ** "ïîë*îöå**îì" äèëåå è *ññåìáëåð îòë*æèâ*ëñÿ, è ufx â ê*êîé-òî ñòåïå*è îáÿç***û ðîæäå*èåì äèëåþ (òèï* ñåë Ì*êñ ê*ê-òî ç* äèëåé è **ïèñ*ë ufx), ä* è òóò ** ôîðóìå ï*ð*-òðîéê* "*å ïðèìåð" êîäîâ ïðîñê*êèâ*ëî, * âîò â "êîìïëåêòå" *åòó - âèäèìî ïîê* êòî-òî *å **ïèøåò "*îðì*ëü*ûé" ñî ç**÷å*èÿìè â ìèëëèñåêó*ä*õ, äåöèáåë*õ ñ ôèëüòð*ìè è áåç è ò.ä. - èñòîðèÿ áóäåò ïðîäîëæ*òñÿ - (* ÷òî, **äî æå ÷òî-òî îñò*âèòü - * òî âîçüìåòñÿ ÷åëîâåê ÷òî-òî *å ñëèøêîì ñëîæ*îå *î *óæ*îå **ïèñ*òü - * *å÷åãî - ýòî åñòü, òî åñòü - * ò*ê âîò delay Íó ïðî îïòèìèç*öèþ *å áóäó (îõ, õëåáîì *å êîðìè ä*é ÷òî-*èáóäü ñîïòèìèçèðîâ*òü) - ñ*ìîìó **âåð*îå è*òåðåñ*åé... Åùå ð*ç ñï*ñèáî è óä*÷è. p.s. >Õîðóñ áû òîæå ÷åëîâå÷åñêèé.... À òî â*ø òîæå - õðèïèò ã*ä Êñò*òè èìå**î "õðèïåòü" *å äîëæå* ("çâå*åòü" ò*ì èëè åùå ÷åãî - ýòî âîçìîæ*î - *î âîò õðèïåòü?), ò*ê ÷òî ýòî **äî áû ê*ê á*ã-ðåïîðò îáñóäèòü... p.p.s À, êñò*òè - îïå÷*òê*: macs c, 0, rdL, feedback; macs c, 0, rdR, feedback; acc3 wrt, c, in, 0; ** îáð*ò*óþ ñâÿçü èäåò òîëüêî ïð*âûé ê***ë **äî ÷òî-òî òèï* (åñëè *å îïòèìèçèðîâ*òü îïÿòü-æå): macs c, 0, rdL, feedback; macs c, ñ, rdR, feedback; èëè (ê*ê ïðèìåð èñïîëüçîâ**èÿ *êêóìóëÿòîð*): macs 0, 0, rdL, feedback; macs c, accum, rdR, feedback;
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