Megafont ultra beta version

Mikol · Nov 16, 2003, 02:23 PM

Dear kx Drivers / megafont users, an ultra beta version can be downloaded at

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mickael.lacoste/mf.html

It's a test version which will allow you to hope that one day megafont would be alive !

The main problem is for drum banks but this is a minor "bug" in saving temporary files methods.

Thank for your support and good luck with this temporary (!) version.

lucioblues · Nov 16, 2003, 06:45 PM

Similar of crash to PITmaster for me:

"Erreur d'application
Exception EPrivilege dans le module megafont.exe dans 00070EC8.
Instruction privilégiée"

I'm using Windows XP and a SBlive (ct4760)

Mikol · Nov 16, 2003, 07:07 PM

I can give you something that was working for me (because now I don't have this bug ...)

You have to run megafont in windows 98 compatible mode : click on exe and go to properties, tabsheet compatibility and choose windows 98.

I don't know why there is this problem because for me anything is ok without this option. But at the beginning (with the initial megafont 1.24.2), I had this problem.

Good luck and sorry for this bugs.

lucioblues · Nov 16, 2003, 11:46 PM

I've tried this but with this option (or W95) I have no response at all. There's no more error messages but the program don't load.

PITmaster · Nov 17, 2003, 07:06 AM

I'm using Win98 & kX3536 & SBLive! An error appears immediately on "turn on" procedure.

Please attach your sfman32.dll file from windows\system to your megafont_1_24_3_beta.zip archive.

Do you have CL drivers installed before with your last Win98's installation? I suggest to install everything from the begining.

What about route definition?
MIDI In: LB1
MIDI Out: kX Synth? SB... ?
SF Device: kX Synth? SB... ?

Memory: ?

PITmaster

Mikol · Nov 17, 2003, 07:23 PM

I made a new package with sfman32.dll and sfedt32.dll.

But normally, megafont config doesn't change !!!!

Good luck.

lucioblues · Nov 17, 2003, 08:07 PM

Yeah, now it is working!!

I put this two .dll in the same directory of megafont instalation (not in windows\system32). I'm using Midi Yoke.
My routes in preferences are Midi Yoke NT:1 > kx synth CT4760 10k1 [e400] > kx synth CT4760 10k1 [e400] (again).
I've tested with Sonar 3 and it worked!

Nice job Mikol

lucioblues · Nov 17, 2003, 08:58 PM

And no drums in here (as you say in the bugs secition). For me megafont creates a separate Sf for the Percursive Pool and not load it in Bank 128 but in Bank 32768!!

The temppreset SF creation takes a lot of time for big soundfonts (like Fluid). I suggest you to try again the SFDEV_VIENNA_LOAD_PRESET option.

thanks Mikol

(and sorry my poor english)

lucioblues · Nov 17, 2003, 09:02 PM

sorry about the thumb (a selected by accident) thats the correct one...

Mikol · Nov 17, 2003, 09:48 PM

No problem for the thumb !!!!

I know my temporary method is not fast ! But I had to restart some of my old songs and would like to find a quick method.

For drum banks, I made a solution for my songs : I never use channel 10 but another with standard (no percussive) instruments. My megafont bank is 127. It's not very standard but it allows me to use more than one percussive bank (for example when I found good sounds in two soundfonts).

For the vienna method, I don't know exactly how implement. The API seems to be very limited. I don't know if I can change soundfont bank and preset number when loading by megafont.

And at last, sorry for my poor english too ! I'm french !

Thank a lot for testing and sorry for things that are not perfect.

PITmaster · Nov 18, 2003, 11:16 AM

Please take sfmansdk.zip file (13MB) from this side:
http://developer.soundblaster.com/ar...&top=51&aid=67

I hope it will be helpful.

PITmaster

Mikol · Nov 18, 2003, 09:10 PM

Thank for this link.

But I've already download this sdk and for implementation of vienna load preset, it doesn't give me enough help.

I don't know if I can load a preset at a specific bank and preset number.

I have to make more search now.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Nov 20, 2003, 12:06 AM

as I've already mentioned earlier, kX driver doesn't support -all- the Vienna API functions,
nor does it support -all- the SFMan32 functions
(since most of them aren't used at all in modern software applications)

personally, I find these APIs rather limited and unefficient
(we don't have CL source code and our own soundfont implementation is different)

so, the present kX implementation is just a 'wrapping' layer with limited functionality
in order to implement the features similar to megafont, a new API might be a better idea...
(or an extension to Vienna/SFMan stuff)

as I've already mentioned to Mikol, I'm open to any ideas
btw, the 'sfman translation layer' is based on the kX API which is open and is available as part of our SDK
so, feel free to investigate the present (kX API) soundfont management functions...

/Eugene

p.s.
btw, it might be a good idea to integrate megafont functionality into the driver... this might improve our present soundfont management subsystem

PITmaster · Nov 20, 2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eugene Gavrilov
btw, it might be a good idea to integrate megafont functionality into the driver... this might improve our present soundfont management subsystem

Yes, yes, yesss

Even only like in Mikol's megafont version - temporary sountfont banks.

I guess you tried megafont software at last, seriously.

PITmaster

lucioblues · Jan 14, 2004, 06:38 PM

Somebody got any news about Megafont for KX?

ElmoLesto · Aug 24, 2004, 02:26 AM

I want Megafont for KX please!

lucioblues · Aug 27, 2004, 05:32 AM

I think it's dead...

Mikol · Aug 29, 2004, 12:10 AM

Hi,

Megafont is dead because kx drivers doesn't allow patch loading, only soundfont loading.

I abandon megafont kx compatible project because it was unstable. Now, I'm using software solution (with VSampler which could be compared to megafont because it allows "dynamic" patch caching) and continues with kX drivers and low latency with ASIO VST Instrument.

Good luck.

Nov 16, 2003, 02:23 PM	#1
Mikol DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: France Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Megafont ultra beta version Dear kx Drivers / megafont users, an ultra beta version can be downloaded at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mickael.lacoste/mf.html It's a test version which will allow you to hope that one day megafont would be alive ! The main problem is for drum banks but this is a minor "bug" in saving temporary files methods. Thank for your support and good luck with this temporary (!) version.

Nov 17, 2003, 07:06 AM	#5
PITmaster DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 266 Rep Power: 0	MF with kX I'm using Win98 & kX3536 & SBLive! An error appears immediately on "turn on" procedure. Please attach your sfman32.dll file from windows\system to your megafont_1_24_3_beta.zip archive. Do you have CL drivers installed before with your last Win98's installation? I suggest to install everything from the begining. What about route definition? MIDI In: LB1 MIDI Out: kX Synth? SB... ? SF Device: kX Synth? SB... ? Memory: ? PITmaster

Jan 14, 2004, 06:38 PM	#15
lucioblues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	Somebody got any news about Megafont for KX? __________________

Nov 16, 2003, 06:45 PM	#2
lucioblues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	Similar of crash to PITmaster for me: "Erreur d'application Exception EPrivilege dans le module megafont.exe dans 00070EC8. Instruction privilégiée" I'm using Windows XP and a SBlive (ct4760)

Nov 16, 2003, 07:07 PM	Thread Starter #3
Mikol DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: France Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	I can give you something that was working for me (because now I don't have this bug ...) You have to run megafont in windows 98 compatible mode : click on exe and go to properties, tabsheet compatibility and choose windows 98. I don't know why there is this problem because for me anything is ok without this option. But at the beginning (with the initial megafont 1.24.2), I had this problem. Good luck and sorry for this bugs.

Nov 16, 2003, 11:46 PM	#4
lucioblues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	I've tried this but with this option (or W95) I have no response at all. There's no more error messages but the program don't load.

Nov 17, 2003, 07:23 PM	Thread Starter #6
Mikol DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: France Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	I made a new package with sfman32.dll and sfedt32.dll. But normally, megafont config doesn't change !!!! Good luck.

Nov 17, 2003, 08:07 PM	#7
lucioblues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, now it is working!! I put this two .dll in the same directory of megafont instalation (not in windows\system32). I'm using Midi Yoke. My routes in preferences are Midi Yoke NT:1 > kx synth CT4760 10k1 [e400] > kx synth CT4760 10k1 [e400] (again). I've tested with Sonar 3 and it worked! Nice job Mikol

Nov 17, 2003, 08:58 PM	#8
lucioblues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	And no drums in here (as you say in the bugs secition). For me megafont creates a separate Sf for the Percursive Pool and not load it in Bank 128 but in Bank 32768!! The temppreset SF creation takes a lot of time for big soundfonts (like Fluid). I suggest you to try again the SFDEV_VIENNA_LOAD_PRESET option. thanks Mikol (and sorry my poor english)

Nov 17, 2003, 09:02 PM	#9
lucioblues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	sorry about the thumb (a selected by accident) thats the correct one...

Nov 17, 2003, 09:48 PM	Thread Starter #10
Mikol DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: France Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	No problem for the thumb !!!! I know my temporary method is not fast ! But I had to restart some of my old songs and would like to find a quick method. For drum banks, I made a solution for my songs : I never use channel 10 but another with standard (no percussive) instruments. My megafont bank is 127. It's not very standard but it allows me to use more than one percussive bank (for example when I found good sounds in two soundfonts). For the vienna method, I don't know exactly how implement. The API seems to be very limited. I don't know if I can change soundfont bank and preset number when loading by megafont. And at last, sorry for my poor english too ! I'm french ! Thank a lot for testing and sorry for things that are not perfect.

Nov 18, 2003, 11:16 AM	#11
PITmaster DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 266 Rep Power: 0	Please take sfmansdk.zip file (13MB) from this side: http://developer.soundblaster.com/ar...&top=51&aid=67 I hope it will be helpful. PITmaster

Nov 18, 2003, 09:10 PM	Thread Starter #12
Mikol DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: France Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Thank for this link. But I've already download this sdk and for implementation of vienna load preset, it doesn't give me enough help. I don't know if I can load a preset at a specific bank and preset number. I have to make more search now.

Nov 20, 2003, 12:06 AM	#13
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	as I've already mentioned earlier, kX driver doesn't support -all- the Vienna API functions, nor does it support -all- the SFMan32 functions (since most of them aren't used at all in modern software applications) personally, I find these APIs rather limited and unefficient (we don't have CL source code and our own soundfont implementation is different) so, the present kX implementation is just a 'wrapping' layer with limited functionality in order to implement the features similar to megafont, a new API might be a better idea... (or an extension to Vienna/SFMan stuff) as I've already mentioned to Mikol, I'm open to any ideas btw, the 'sfman translation layer' is based on the kX API which is open and is available as part of our SDK so, feel free to investigate the present (kX API) soundfont management functions... /Eugene p.s. btw, it might be a good idea to integrate megafont functionality into the driver... this might improve our present soundfont management subsystem

Aug 24, 2004, 02:26 AM	#16
ElmoLesto DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Entre Ríos, Argentina Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I want Megafont for KX please!

Aug 27, 2004, 05:32 AM	#17
lucioblues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	I think it's dead...

Aug 29, 2004, 12:10 AM	Thread Starter #18
Mikol DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: France Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Hi, Megafont is dead because kx drivers doesn't allow patch loading, only soundfont loading. I abandon megafont kx compatible project because it was unstable. Now, I'm using software solution (with VSampler which could be compared to megafont because it allows "dynamic" patch caching) and continues with kX drivers and low latency with ASIO VST Instrument. Good luck.