Kx Sinth not aviable in Cubase

Daniel Drummond · Apr 1, 2004, 05:36 PM

??? more info... you didn't post anything except the thread title...

**dj_stick** · Apr 2, 2004, 10:25 AM

ah i think this is another thread that got damaged when zardon reset the forum, it happened in the off-topic forum aswell

Simone · Apr 5, 2004, 02:33 PM

in midi preferences of cubase, kxsinth is not aviable.
see the image
http://agapitomalteni.altervista.org/midiout.jpg

Daniel Drummond · Apr 5, 2004, 04:31 PM

load a soundfont in kx mixer... Midi only works after that...

Simone · Apr 6, 2004, 12:08 PM

the soundfont already is loaded,
the strange thing is that the kxsynth is aviable like output in the single tracks

Daniel Drummond · Apr 6, 2004, 06:28 PM

I've never seem anyone reporting that problem in the forums, so you may want to re-install cubase, re-install kx drivers and see what happens... Just an idea. Maybe you have a corrupt install.

france666reds · Apr 7, 2004, 09:19 AM

i've the same problem yet, but with the new sfman of Eugene i don't need to use the Midi device manager because cubase read the soundfont's names correctly, but i agree with you that in the midi device manager you can't use any KX synth (i.e. using KX synth as a GM device or as an XG device

I remember that in old versions of KX (february or march 2003) the device manager displayed the synth devices correctly.

Francesco Rossi

PIV 1,6 ghz
512 mb ddram
Windows XP home SP1
audigy platinum 1
Cubase SX
Storm 2
HD 40G
Sonar
etc etc

france666reds · Apr 7, 2004, 09:21 AM

P.S.
I've recently formatted the HD reinstalling XP and all drivers and the problem not be solved.

Daniel Drummond · Apr 7, 2004, 02:38 PM

hey guys, what is your audigy model exactly (name and number)?

france666reds · Apr 9, 2004, 09:12 AM

name AUDIGY PLATINUM internal (with panel on front) number: how to obtain this?
Is CT....... or another ?

Erik Lijten · Apr 27, 2004, 10:41 AM

Hi all,

I have exactly the same problem. I use Cubase SX 2.0.1-10 with kX drivers 5.10.0.3537 on W2K. When importing a midi file and selecting the kX synth as output for a Midi track, I cannot change banks or programs. The same goes when I add tracks, or open an empty new project and then add Midi tracks.

Selecting GM map on an SX track with kX synth selected as output does not display instrument names. Selecting the kX synth as output in the Midi device setup is not possible.

Selecting Microsoft GS synth as output in a track in an SX project _does_ result in being able to change bank and program. Selecting this synth in Midi device setup as output and select this device as output in a track in the SX project _does_ result in showing and selecting instrument names. It just results in some simple Roland soundfont being played. Kinda plays like 'my first sony'. Now I have to route to an external synthesizer, and route the analogue output back into the Creative card before being able to record audio tracks.....

Apart from not being able to do the above, the kX synth _does_ work as expected, also from SX. Just that all midi tracks sound like 'grand piano' :-((

I tried loading all kinds of soundfonts, also the original from Creative in the 2MB, 4MB and 8MB viariants. kX plays them all, also from SX. It just does not let me change banks or programs, and is not useable as output in the Midi device setup.

I freshly installed my system. Only W2K, SP4, patches, DirectX 9.0b runtimes, Cubase and Sonic Foundry SoundForge 6.0e are present on the system. Video uses a non-shared IRQ 10, soundcard uses non-shared IRQ 11.

Greetz Erik

System:
Intel PIII 600MHz copp.
Asus P2B-LS rev. 1.04 (440BX)
512 MB reg. ECC SDRAM
Geforce 2 MX 400 (32MB)
W2K server SP 4 w/ all crit updates from M$
DirectX 9.0b
W2K installed in standard PC mode
ACPI disabled
APM disabled
Creative Labs Live! 5 Platinum w/ LiveDrive II (CT4760)
Cubase SX 2.0.1-10
kX drivers 5.10.0.3537

**dj_stick** · Apr 27, 2004, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by france666reds
name AUDIGY PLATINUM internal (with panel on front) number: how to obtain this?
Is CT....... or another ?

the number is on the card itself… above where it says "audigy" in the top-right corner… have a look here for an image of an SB-Live, and where it says Soundblaster Live! there is an "SB0060" written there… i think it is the same for all models

**dj_stick** · Apr 27, 2004, 10:49 AM

@Erik Lijten - search for forum as there is a thread about a program called kXSFi, or a new sfman32.dll that will fix your problem
EDIT: i found the links for you
kXSFi
new sfman32.dll
I hope these help you

Erik Lijten · Apr 28, 2004, 09:06 AM

Hi dj_stick,

Yep, this really did it. Both kXfsi and the exp. sfman32.dll worked. Only the kXsfi VSTi couldn't keep up with my project. I guess it's message queue or whatever gets an overflow when too many Midi tracks are present. In my project, I had 11 channels in use. Percussion is kinda heavily written. After playing some 10 measures, it went dropping more than half of the Midi events. Don't care at what position I start playing back the project. Apart from that, it did OK. I found no problems at all using Eugene's sfman32.dll.

SX indeed has the annoying habit of dropping my installed soundfonts. This happended after switching the channels' output from kXsfi to kX synth 2 [emulated]. No audible output... shit it has unloaded the soundfonts again :-(

This only leaves the problem that one cannot use the kX synth as output in the Midi device setup....

Greetz Erik

(see prev. msg for descr. of my system...)

france666reds · Apr 28, 2004, 10:06 AM

cannot use the kX synth as output in the Midi device setup....

SX indeed has the annoying habit of dropping my installed soundfonts. This happended after switching the channels' output from kXsfi to kX synth 2 [emulated]. No audible output... shit it has unloaded the soundfonts again

Both kXfsi and the exp. sfman32.dll worked.

**************************************************

It is exactly what happen to me.

Your description is quite similar to my problems.

Apr 1, 2004, 05:36 PM	#1
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	Kx Sinth not aviable in Cubase ??? more info... you didn't post anything except the thread title... __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Apr 5, 2004, 04:31 PM	Thread Starter #4
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	load a soundfont in kx mixer... Midi only works after that... __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Apr 6, 2004, 06:28 PM	Thread Starter #6
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	I've never seem anyone reporting that problem in the forums, so you may want to re-install cubase, re-install kx drivers and see what happens... Just an idea. Maybe you have a corrupt install. __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Apr 7, 2004, 09:19 AM	#7
france666reds let the music playing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: italy Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	no device Sinth1 or sinth2 in cubase i've the same problem yet, but with the new sfman of Eugene i don't need to use the Midi device manager because cubase read the soundfont's names correctly, but i agree with you that in the midi device manager you can't use any KX synth (i.e. using KX synth as a GM device or as an XG device I remember that in old versions of KX (february or march 2003) the device manager displayed the synth devices correctly. Francesco Rossi PIV 1,6 ghz 512 mb ddram Windows XP home SP1 audigy platinum 1 Cubase SX Storm 2 HD 40G Sonar etc etc

Apr 7, 2004, 09:21 AM	#8
france666reds let the music playing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: italy Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	reinstall or new install P.S. I've recently formatted the HD reinstalling XP and all drivers and the problem not be solved.

Apr 5, 2004, 02:33 PM	#3
Simone DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	in midi preferences of cubase, kxsinth is not aviable. see the image http://agapitomalteni.altervista.org/midiout.jpg

Apr 6, 2004, 12:08 PM	#5
Simone DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	the soundfont already is loaded, the strange thing is that the kxsynth is aviable like output in the single tracks

Apr 7, 2004, 02:38 PM	Thread Starter #9
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	hey guys, what is your audigy model exactly (name and number)? __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Apr 9, 2004, 09:12 AM	#10
france666reds let the music playing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: italy Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	name AUDIGY PLATINUM internal (with panel on front) number: how to obtain this? Is CT....... or another ?

Apr 27, 2004, 10:41 AM	#11
Erik Lijten DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Helmond, NL Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Hi all, I have exactly the same problem. I use Cubase SX 2.0.1-10 with kX drivers 5.10.0.3537 on W2K. When importing a midi file and selecting the kX synth as output for a Midi track, I cannot change banks or programs. The same goes when I add tracks, or open an empty new project and then add Midi tracks. Selecting GM map on an SX track with kX synth selected as output does not display instrument names. Selecting the kX synth as output in the Midi device setup is not possible. Selecting Microsoft GS synth as output in a track in an SX project _does_ result in being able to change bank and program. Selecting this synth in Midi device setup as output and select this device as output in a track in the SX project _does_ result in showing and selecting instrument names. It just results in some simple Roland soundfont being played. Kinda plays like 'my first sony'. Now I have to route to an external synthesizer, and route the analogue output back into the Creative card before being able to record audio tracks..... Apart from not being able to do the above, the kX synth _does_ work as expected, also from SX. Just that all midi tracks sound like 'grand piano' :-(( I tried loading all kinds of soundfonts, also the original from Creative in the 2MB, 4MB and 8MB viariants. kX plays them all, also from SX. It just does not let me change banks or programs, and is not useable as output in the Midi device setup. I freshly installed my system. Only W2K, SP4, patches, DirectX 9.0b runtimes, Cubase and Sonic Foundry SoundForge 6.0e are present on the system. Video uses a non-shared IRQ 10, soundcard uses non-shared IRQ 11. Greetz Erik System: Intel PIII 600MHz copp. Asus P2B-LS rev. 1.04 (440BX) 512 MB reg. ECC SDRAM Geforce 2 MX 400 (32MB) W2K server SP 4 w/ all crit updates from M$ DirectX 9.0b W2K installed in standard PC mode ACPI disabled APM disabled Creative Labs Live! 5 Platinum w/ LiveDrive II (CT4760) Cubase SX 2.0.1-10 kX drivers 5.10.0.3537

Apr 28, 2004, 09:06 AM	#14
Erik Lijten DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Helmond, NL Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Hi dj_stick, Yep, this really did it. Both kXfsi and the exp. sfman32.dll worked. Only the kXsfi VSTi couldn't keep up with my project. I guess it's message queue or whatever gets an overflow when too many Midi tracks are present. In my project, I had 11 channels in use. Percussion is kinda heavily written. After playing some 10 measures, it went dropping more than half of the Midi events. Don't care at what position I start playing back the project. Apart from that, it did OK. I found no problems at all using Eugene's sfman32.dll. SX indeed has the annoying habit of dropping my installed soundfonts. This happended after switching the channels' output from kXsfi to kX synth 2 [emulated]. No audible output... shit it has unloaded the soundfonts again :-( This only leaves the problem that one cannot use the kX synth as output in the Midi device setup.... Greetz Erik (see prev. msg for descr. of my system...)

Apr 28, 2004, 10:06 AM	#15
france666reds let the music playing Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: italy Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	cannot use the kX synth as output in the Midi device setup.... SX indeed has the annoying habit of dropping my installed soundfonts. This happended after switching the channels' output from kXsfi to kX synth 2 [emulated]. No audible output... shit it has unloaded the soundfonts again Both kXfsi and the exp. sfman32.dll worked. ************************************************** It is exactly what happen to me. Your description is quite similar to my problems.