midi keyboard manager

lampadaire2002 · Jul 12, 2004, 03:42 PM

hi and thank for your help

i installed the kxdriver for an audigy platinum ex 2 and they works fine.

but my problem is:
i have a midikeyboard controller and i can't simply use the soundfonts as i did when i used the "creative
soundfont bank manager",i mean in standalone.With kxdriver i have no sounds when i play with the keyboard.
maybe my question is so simple i can't find a solution in the "help" files.

How should i configurate the mixer and midi setting to get a link between my midikeyboard and the kx soundfont manager?

thanks

Lex Nahumury · Jul 12, 2004, 05:11 PM

>>>...i mean in standalone...

kX does not come with such an applet since most users will use
a sequencer wich takes care of midi routing.

Simply get/use MIDI OX to route your MidiIn->kXSynth.
It's a well known free program.
Don't forget to load some soundfonts first.

/LeMury

lampadaire2002 · Jul 12, 2004, 10:11 PM

it seems to work!
thanks for your answer!

i'm happy

thomasabarnes · Jul 13, 2004, 08:14 AM

LeMury:

Thanks for that info man! This is another good peice of info. It's possible to play soundfonts just as we did with the Creatie standalone keyboard! Man this is stuff that could be placed in documetation. Just like the Creative cards come with documentation of how to do this and other things, so can the KX Project have documentation covering this neat stuff!

There's probably a whole host of great things that can be done (using this audio driver) embeded throughout the sections and many threads of the kX Project Audio Driver Support Forum, but it will take extensive reading to find, and the world may never know (just like it's unknown about how many licks does it take to get to the center of a toosie roll lolipop). Remember that old comercial?

Well, it was a U.S. comercial.

Anyway, thanks for sharing this info involving the MIDI OX.

Sincerely, thomasabarnes

Lex Nahumury · Jul 13, 2004, 12:01 PM

>>>this is stuff that could be placed in documetation...

No I don't think so.
This is all realy very..very basic general Computer->Midi knowledge not bound to kX in particulair.

/LeMury

btw; sounds like a funny commercial.

thomasabarnes · Jul 14, 2004, 07:38 PM

>No I don't think so

May I beg to differ?

I know the MIDI OX is not by KX, but being able to play a MIDI Keyboard stand alone when using it, is a good thing, and I think it's a good idea to dcoument it so others can know!

Anyway, I still hold you in high esteem, LeMury.

Moreover, I'm just glad to be here hehe.

BTW, I'm stll hoping for your part 2 to the ProFX documentation. Just a reminder LOL.

Sincerely, thomasabarnes

**dj_stick** · Jul 14, 2004, 09:56 PM

thomas - if you have the time to write a short document on how to use midi ox with kX feel free and i will put it on the knowledgebase

Lex Nahumury · Jul 15, 2004, 01:31 AM

>>May I beg to differ?
Ofcourse you may and maybe you are right afterall.

>>BTW, I'm stll hoping for your part 2 to the ProFX documentation. Just a reminder LOL.
IIRC, I put an ? sign behind "...to be continued..".
So I was under the impression that there was not much interrest for a "part2".

/LeMury

**dj_stick** · Jul 15, 2004, 03:32 AM

i'm sure there is interest… they are very useful plugins to use

lampadaire2002 · Jul 15, 2004, 12:26 PM

hi
thaks again for the midi ox advice.
works fine.

i have a question for anyone using that to play in standalone with a keyboard:

i have some sf2 files containing several different instrument(banks sf2).when i load those
files i'm only able to play the first instrument of the bank.i can't see any device allowing me to choose
and play the others. in the "creative soundfont manager" there was automatically a little screen appearing
and showing the name of all the sound contained by the bank.
anyone got the solution.it's annoying to have some sf2 including sounds who rules and be allowed to
play only one of them!

i hope my question is more clear than my english
thanks if you have an answer

**dj_stick** · Jul 15, 2004, 12:30 PM

ok this sounds life different midi channels per bank
in this case use the kX router to send each synth channel in use to a different (unused) fxbus routing
then in the DSP connect these to the relevant ASIO ins

Lex Nahumury · Jul 15, 2004, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lampadaire2002
[B]i have some sf2 files containing several different instrument(banks sf2).when i load those
files i'm only able to play the first instrument of the bank....[B]

But ofcourse! You have to send bankselect & preset midi messages first..!

To access different SF presets & banks;
Just use OX's control panel (or your midi-keyboard) to send
'Midi Bank Change' and 'Midi Patch Change' messages to kXSynth.

/LeMury

PS;
This has nothing to do with dsp/asio routing stuff.

**dj_stick** · Jul 15, 2004, 01:35 PM

sorry LeMury - i'm not really used to using soundfonts

Lex Nahumury · Jul 15, 2004, 02:33 PM

>>>sorry LeMury - i'm not really used to using soundfonts
Np m8. If one would know everything.....well,..you know what I mean.

/LeMury

thomasabarnes · Jul 15, 2004, 06:28 PM

OK DJ_Stick:

I put together a short guide on how to play soundfonts using MIDI OX and the KX Porject Audio Driver. The guide is in MS Word format and 155kb in size with pics.

If another format is desired, let me know and I'll try to get it in that format. I would have placed it in .pdf format, but I'm unable to do that at this time.

Thx for pressuring me into writing this simple guide LOL, it was fun. Where can I upload it?

Cya around

Sincerely, thomasabarnes

thomasabarnes · Jul 17, 2004, 08:10 AM

If anyone else doesnt know where to begin for playing their soundfonts in the Creative Keyboard fashion, but to do it using the KX Project Audio Driver, you may want to take a look at this short article:

http://kb.kxproject.lugosoft.com/Sta...I-Keyboard.pdf

However, after reading this thread, there may not be a need. Yet, see the KX Knowledge Base (http://kb.kxproject.lugosoft.com/ for KX Project related help and enlightenment) for any adventurous curiousity that may arise in the future.

Sinncerely, thomasabarnes

thomasabarnes · Jul 17, 2004, 08:33 AM

LeMury:

I'm interested in part 2 of your ProFX guide!

I just want to make that clear!

Sincerely, thomasabarnes

lampadaire2002 · Jul 22, 2004, 07:19 PM

that short message to say that you guys RULES!!! thanks a lot :with the little pdf file and your advices i now know how to play sf2 in standalone!!

thomasabarnes · Jul 23, 2004, 05:30 AM

lampadaire2002:

Cool and glad we could help.

Sincerely, thomasabarnes

Jul 12, 2004, 03:42 PM	#1
lampadaire2002 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	midi keyboard manager hi and thank for your help i installed the kxdriver for an audigy platinum ex 2 and they works fine. but my problem is: i have a midikeyboard controller and i can't simply use the soundfonts as i did when i used the "creative soundfont bank manager",i mean in standalone.With kxdriver i have no sounds when i play with the keyboard. maybe my question is so simple i can't find a solution in the "help" files. How should i configurate the mixer and midi setting to get a link between my midikeyboard and the kx soundfont manager? thanks

Jul 12, 2004, 10:11 PM	Thread Starter #3
lampadaire2002 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	wow it seems to work! thanks for your answer! i'm happy

Jul 13, 2004, 08:14 AM	#4
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Oh Wow! LeMury: Thanks for that info man! This is another good peice of info. It's possible to play soundfonts just as we did with the Creatie standalone keyboard! Man this is stuff that could be placed in documetation. Just like the Creative cards come with documentation of how to do this and other things, so can the KX Project have documentation covering this neat stuff! There's probably a whole host of great things that can be done (using this audio driver) embeded throughout the sections and many threads of the kX Project Audio Driver Support Forum, but it will take extensive reading to find, and the world may never know (just like it's unknown about how many licks does it take to get to the center of a toosie roll lolipop). Remember that old comercial? Well, it was a U.S. comercial. Anyway, thanks for sharing this info involving the MIDI OX. Sincerely, thomasabarnes __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jul 14, 2004, 07:38 PM	#6
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	>No I don't think so May I beg to differ? I know the MIDI OX is not by KX, but being able to play a MIDI Keyboard stand alone when using it, is a good thing, and I think it's a good idea to dcoument it so others can know! Anyway, I still hold you in high esteem, LeMury. Moreover, I'm just glad to be here hehe. BTW, I'm stll hoping for your part 2 to the ProFX documentation. Just a reminder LOL. Sincerely, thomasabarnes __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jul 15, 2004, 12:26 PM	Thread Starter #10
lampadaire2002 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	more question hi thaks again for the midi ox advice. works fine. i have a question for anyone using that to play in standalone with a keyboard: i have some sf2 files containing several different instrument(banks sf2).when i load those files i'm only able to play the first instrument of the bank.i can't see any device allowing me to choose and play the others. in the "creative soundfont manager" there was automatically a little screen appearing and showing the name of all the sound contained by the bank. anyone got the solution.it's annoying to have some sf2 including sounds who rules and be allowed to play only one of them! i hope my question is more clear than my english thanks if you have an answer

Jul 12, 2004, 05:11 PM	#2
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	>>>...i mean in standalone... kX does not come with such an applet since most users will use a sequencer wich takes care of midi routing. Simply get/use MIDI OX to route your MidiIn->kXSynth. It's a well known free program. Don't forget to load some soundfonts first. /LeMury

Jul 13, 2004, 12:01 PM	#5
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	>>>this is stuff that could be placed in documetation... No I don't think so. This is all realy very..very basic general Computer->Midi knowledge not bound to kX in particulair. /LeMury btw; sounds like a funny commercial.

Jul 15, 2004, 01:31 AM	#8
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	>>May I beg to differ? Ofcourse you may and maybe you are right afterall. >>BTW, I'm stll hoping for your part 2 to the ProFX documentation. Just a reminder LOL. IIRC, I put an ? sign behind "...to be continued..". So I was under the impression that there was not much interrest for a "part2". /LeMury

Jul 15, 2004, 02:33 PM	#14
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	>>>sorry LeMury - i'm not really used to using soundfonts Np m8. If one would know everything.....well,..you know what I mean. /LeMury

Jul 15, 2004, 06:28 PM	#15
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	MIDI Keyboard Standalone Guide OK DJ_Stick: I put together a short guide on how to play soundfonts using MIDI OX and the KX Porject Audio Driver. The guide is in MS Word format and 155kb in size with pics. If another format is desired, let me know and I'll try to get it in that format. I would have placed it in .pdf format, but I'm unable to do that at this time. Thx for pressuring me into writing this simple guide LOL, it was fun. Where can I upload it? Cya around Sincerely, thomasabarnes __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jul 15, 2004 at 07:02 PM.

Jul 17, 2004, 08:10 AM	#16
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	If anyone else doesnt know where to begin for playing their soundfonts in the Creative Keyboard fashion, but to do it using the KX Project Audio Driver, you may want to take a look at this short article: http://kb.kxproject.lugosoft.com/Sta...I-Keyboard.pdf However, after reading this thread, there may not be a need. Yet, see the KX Knowledge Base (http://kb.kxproject.lugosoft.com/ for KX Project related help and enlightenment) for any adventurous curiousity that may arise in the future. Sinncerely, thomasabarnes __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jul 17, 2004 at 08:35 AM.

Jul 17, 2004, 08:33 AM	#17
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	LeMury: I'm interested in part 2 of your ProFX guide! I just want to make that clear! Sincerely, thomasabarnes __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jul 22, 2004, 07:19 PM	Thread Starter #18
lampadaire2002 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	tanks!!! that short message to say that you guys RULES!!! thanks a lot :with the little pdf file and your advices i now know how to play sf2 in standalone!!

Jul 23, 2004, 05:30 AM	#19
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	lampadaire2002: Cool and glad we could help. Sincerely, thomasabarnes __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs