Strange latency issue

Shai Hulud · Jan 20, 2005, 05:22 PM

Hi. I have a very strange issue. I'm using a Creative Live SB5.1. When i record midi with my synth, the latency is constantly increasing. But you here it normaly. The latency occurs only in the record track. I'm using Cubase VST32 5.0. I've tried with the original drivers, and with the KX drivers. The same problem. The audio is fine.
Os: Win XP SP1
CPU: AMD's Sempron 2.2+
AC: Creative SB Live 5.1
MB: Gigabyte (don't know exact model).

If anyone can help, it would be great!
Thanks in advance.

aaronbond · Jan 20, 2005, 05:40 PM

not sure, but do the drivers have an option for latency in the Control Panel? I have a M-Audio Delta44 and that's what helped me with my latency. Also, you might want to try

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=951

Your sound card should come up. Set the latency down to 128 @ the lowest. Test it man. I believe this is the same option as my driver control panel latency option.

AJ.eightFIve · Feb 11, 2005, 09:16 AM

I am having the same problem. I recently built a new system for my dad to do his recording work with and this issue has been a show stopper for him. It occurs in both Finale 2004, 2005 and Cubase VST. After starting either program he is able to record in time for about a minute after which point the record track becomes badly out of sync. The strangest thing as Shai Hulud described, is that the notes always appear on the screen and are heard the instant they are played, yet they are recorded out of sync. I have also tried both the Creative and Kx drivers. I've used the PCI latency tool to reduce the latency hogging video card and will try bumping the value for the sound card tomorow and report back.

System Specs:
P4 2.6Ghz
1Gig PC-3200 DDR
Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
Abit IS7-E Mobo

AJ.eightFIve · Feb 12, 2005, 04:44 AM

I tried using the PCI latency tool to set the value for the Audigy 2 ZS from 32 to 128. This did not resolve the problem. I also tried prioritizing the IRQ of the sound card in the registry and this did not help either. Any other suggestions?

AJ.eightFIve · Feb 14, 2005, 04:09 AM

Has anyone had this problem with M-Audio cards? I would consider replacing the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro if I had some reasonable assurance that it is the card that's at fault.

TravelRec. · Feb 14, 2005, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shai Hulud

... The latency occurs only in the record track. I'm using Cubase VST32 5.0. I've tried with the original drivers, and with the KX drivers. The same problem. The audio is fine...

AFAIK this is a problem of VST32 (Cubase 5.0), same problem occured in earlier VST24 versions. Try to update to SX1.06 (better response on slower machines) or SX2.2 for modern computer generations.

AJ.eightFIve · Feb 14, 2005, 06:21 PM

For myself, this occurs in Finale 2004 and 2005 in addition to cubase software.

Lex Nahumury · Feb 14, 2005, 06:42 PM

Check if your sequencer + projects is set entirely to 48khz..!! (including all previous recorded audio)
Check/set Multimedia properties->full hw acceleration.

/LeMury

AJ.eightFIve · Feb 15, 2005, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Check if your sequencer + projects is set entirely to 48khz..!! (including all previous recorded audio)

I'm not very familiar with the Finale/Cubase software and am new to kX drivers also, where can I find these options?

Quote:

Check/set Multimedia properties->full hw acceleration.

Hardware acceleration is set to full.

Thanks for your reply!

AJ.eightFIve · Feb 20, 2005, 03:01 AM

ttt

Lex Nahumury · Feb 21, 2005, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ.eightFIve

I'm not very familiar with the Finale/Cubase software ...

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/57078-newbie-guide-how-setup-cubase-sx-kx.html

AJ.eightFIve · Feb 23, 2005, 05:50 AM

The suggested settings didn't work LeMury. Also, the problem is with midi only, it seems those settings were for audio recording.

Going to buy an M-Audio Audiophile card and see if that fixes things, I really hope so as I don't want to have to look at troubleshooting the entire system.

Lex Nahumury · Feb 23, 2005, 07:16 AM

Quote:

The suggested settings didn't work LeMury. Also, the problem is with midi only, it seems those settings were for audio recording.

Well, wrong samplerate setting can definitly cause 'midi to audio' sync problems.
Sorry to hear you can't seem to find the solution.

G-luck with the m-audio.

/LeMury

Jan 20, 2005, 05:22 PM	#1
Shai Hulud DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Strange latency issue Hi. I have a very strange issue. I'm using a Creative Live SB5.1. When i record midi with my synth, the latency is constantly increasing. But you here it normaly. The latency occurs only in the record track. I'm using Cubase VST32 5.0. I've tried with the original drivers, and with the KX drivers. The same problem. The audio is fine. Os: Win XP SP1 CPU: AMD's Sempron 2.2+ AC: Creative SB Live 5.1 MB: Gigabyte (don't know exact model). If anyone can help, it would be great! Thanks in advance.

Feb 11, 2005, 09:16 AM	#3
AJ.eightFIve DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I am having the same problem. I recently built a new system for my dad to do his recording work with and this issue has been a show stopper for him. It occurs in both Finale 2004, 2005 and Cubase VST. After starting either program he is able to record in time for about a minute after which point the record track becomes badly out of sync. The strangest thing as Shai Hulud described, is that the notes always appear on the screen and are heard the instant they are played, yet they are recorded out of sync. I have also tried both the Creative and Kx drivers. I've used the PCI latency tool to reduce the latency hogging video card and will try bumping the value for the sound card tomorow and report back. System Specs: P4 2.6Ghz 1Gig PC-3200 DDR Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro Abit IS7-E Mobo Last edited by AJ.eightFIve; Feb 15, 2005 at 02:28 AM.

Jan 20, 2005, 05:40 PM	#2
aaronbond DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	not sure, but do the drivers have an option for latency in the Control Panel? I have a M-Audio Delta44 and that's what helped me with my latency. Also, you might want to try http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=951 Your sound card should come up. Set the latency down to 128 @ the lowest. Test it man. I believe this is the same option as my driver control panel latency option.

Feb 12, 2005, 04:44 AM	#4
AJ.eightFIve DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I tried using the PCI latency tool to set the value for the Audigy 2 ZS from 32 to 128. This did not resolve the problem. I also tried prioritizing the IRQ of the sound card in the registry and this did not help either. Any other suggestions?

Feb 14, 2005, 04:09 AM	#5
AJ.eightFIve DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Has anyone had this problem with M-Audio cards? I would consider replacing the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro if I had some reasonable assurance that it is the card that's at fault.

Feb 14, 2005, 06:21 PM	#7
AJ.eightFIve DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	For myself, this occurs in Finale 2004 and 2005 in addition to cubase software.

Feb 14, 2005, 06:42 PM	#8
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	Check if your sequencer + projects is set entirely to 48khz..!! (including all previous recorded audio) Check/set Multimedia properties->full hw acceleration. /LeMury

Feb 20, 2005, 03:01 AM	#10
AJ.eightFIve DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	ttt

Feb 23, 2005, 05:50 AM	#12
AJ.eightFIve DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	The suggested settings didn't work LeMury. Also, the problem is with midi only, it seems those settings were for audio recording. Going to buy an M-Audio Audiophile card and see if that fixes things, I really hope so as I don't want to have to look at troubleshooting the entire system.