dsp effect for single midi channel

monnez · Apr 27, 2005, 10:59 PM

is it possible to insert a dsp effect for every single midi channel ? thanks.

TravelRec. · Apr 29, 2005, 06:55 AM

Yes it is possible. Use kX-Router for doing that, read the help-file about the router usage.

monnez · May 3, 2005, 11:30 PM

THANK YOU FOR THE REPLAY, I THINK I'LL FIND IT VERY USEFUL

TravelRec. · May 4, 2005, 09:36 AM

Ha, that´s what we all think (... most of us

)! Greetings!

amoghazy2 · May 10, 2005, 12:59 PM

I had just installed KX Project on my Soundblaster Live!, regarding to DSP effect for single MIDI channel, I read router guide but how can I control effects from MIDI applications such as Cakewalk Music Creator Pro 2004.
Thanks

amoghazy2 · May 11, 2005, 12:58 PM

What I need is how to control effects other than REVERB & CHORUS from MIDI Software tools???

TravelRec. · May 15, 2005, 06:24 PM

The kX router sends the different MIDI channel sounds of the synth to different outputs of the FXBus in the DSP (if you want). Read kXRouter guide in kX-help files. The kXAutomation makes it possible to control each slider or knob or switch of any supported plugin in the DSP via MIDI controller messages. Read the kXAutomation gude in the help files.

trevbushell · May 20, 2005, 09:37 PM

travel rec , ive been using kxrouter to seperate my midi channels but because there is only fx bus's form 2-15 (fx bus 0 and 1 is for wav) it is limited to only only 7 seperate midi channels. is that right or is there a way around this?

i route these channels into the MX6 which of course only has 6 channels to route to, so i can only add seperate fx to 6 midi channels in total... is there a way i havent seen to improve this also?
hope this is not a stupid question. im sure its staring me in the face!!!!!

tyhanx in advance
trev

TravelRec. · May 21, 2005, 09:58 AM

Hi trev!

It all depends on your card model. Afaik 10k1 cards have only fXBus 0 to 15, 10k2 cards have also 16 to 32, so more ressources. If you need more mixing capabilities, chain more stereo Mix plugins together or make a mixer for your own and put it in the DSP. Or you download this , unzip it and register it and put it into the DSP: http://www.electricstart.de/plug/monimix6.zip
Greetings!

trevbushell · May 21, 2005, 07:07 PM

thanx travelrec, i tried your monimix6 and it didnt load but said "instantiating effect/plugin"
is that cos its for 3538? (i have 3537 at the mo as i'm still novice!!)

chaining stereo mix plugins dont give me the ability to add fx do they, or am i missing what you are saying?

i could use 2 MX6 mixers but still as i have 10k1 card (i think.... emu APS it is) i am still stuck by the no of busses i have arent I?

thanks for your help so far
trev

TravelRec. · May 23, 2005, 10:44 AM

No, no... Monimix6 is a simple *.da file, so usable on all current kX versions. Unzip it, register it and then it should be found in the FX-menu in the DSP as "Monitor-Mix6". Just tested it, it works here on both 3537 and 3538 drivers. Please try it again. For your card I´m sorry - only 16 FX-busses available...

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trevbushell · May 23, 2005, 04:54 PM

thanx travelrec for your patience, i dont know why it didnt work first time as i did the same and it worked this time!!

mixer looked nice at the outset......but I'm having some issues with working it out!

ok... when i connect from my src fx buss to this 'monitor mixer' it has 'In 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8' which made me think "cool 8 stereo inputs!" and it has 'pan' under each input. but looking at it closer it seems they are only mono inputs. is that right or am i missing something? i'm not sure how i am supposed to connect from src to the mixer without losing stereo! (again!!!)..

hope you can help? i really am crap at working out all this in, out,send,buss stuff!!!
trev

trevbushell · May 24, 2005, 08:54 PM

ok... interesting. the mixer worked fine when i re-registered it. but it seemed to stop working after a while- "instantiating effect/plugin"'. I' m not sure when it does this yet, maybe when i shut down and restart comp?? i'll investigate and let you know. (if youre interested that is??

)
i have tried re downloading and unzipping again but no luck. just wont work!!
hmm
trev

TravelRec. · May 25, 2005, 09:18 AM

Hmm, bit strange - since it is really only code for dane-editor it should work okay... used the MoniMix 6 here for many months without problems, now I use an upgraded version with more outs and some special routing for digital and analog paths...
Maybe you should create a new GUID and paste it into the code instead of the old one, maybe you have an interference with another plugin...

Okay, you´re right - there are 8 Mono inputs (all pins in the DSP are mono...) and you can select via the pan slider, where in the stereo-base your signal plays. 2 channels and pan sliders one left one right means stereo.

Please let me know what you´ve discovered.

trevbushell · May 25, 2005, 09:21 AM

will do!

trevbushell · May 25, 2005, 09:18 PM

hmmm, travelrec, it just doesnt work anymore. starnge though cos it worked once, oh well I guess I'll pass on that. Hpefully waiting for 3538 anyway as this will expand capabilities alot for me i hope?
thanx for your help though
trev

TravelRec. · May 26, 2005, 07:15 AM

Okay - sorry for the hassle - here it works well. I doubt that 3538 will expand the capabilities for you, since your card is still the same. Some more plugins and a better driver you will get, but for more than 8 inputs you have to build your own mixing plug or chaining some together, like before. Anyway.... Greetings!

trevbushell · May 26, 2005, 12:32 PM

ok, thanx, I'm not experienced enough to even start thinking about making my own plugins, but maybee one day!
greetings to you too
trev

TravelRec. · May 27, 2005, 06:17 AM

Yeah, I thought that also, but for simple fx with standard instructions and no dlls or skins, it´s quite easy if you understood the structure of 10k1 / 10k2 and its instruction codes. I think I link you to the newest version of MoniMix7 and then you could test again, maybe this works for you. Greetings!

http://www.electricstart.de/plug/monimix7.da

trevbushell · Jun 7, 2005, 08:43 PM

excuse my ignorance..the link you give me for monomix 7 here is the written code only, yes? do i copy and paste this into something?
I did notice a thread where lemury is suggesting he could make the MX6 into MX8 which would solve my problems which would be cool.
trev
trev

TravelRec. · Jun 9, 2005, 08:56 AM

Yep, it´s code but you can use it in that way: link right click, save taget as..., then it will be saved on your HD as a kX-file. Otherwise, open Dane (kX code-editor, right-click kX-tray, kX Editor) and paste the code there, save it as monimix7.kx and that is it. And yes, MX8 would be cool, but on slow machines the peak-meters eat up some ressources, monimix doesn´t has that problem.

trevbushell · Jun 9, 2005, 07:32 PM

cool thanx, will have a go.
ive got a fast machine so mx8 would probs be ok for me. but monomix 7 would be cool in ther meantime, thanx travelrec! as always soo helpful

trev

Apr 27, 2005, 10:59 PM	#1
monnez DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: italy\marche Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	dsp effect for single midi channel is it possible to insert a dsp effect for every single midi channel ? thanks.

Apr 29, 2005, 06:55 AM	#2
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Yes it is possible. Use kX-Router for doing that, read the help-file about the router usage. __________________ Always take a look behind.

May 4, 2005, 09:36 AM	#4
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Ha, that´s what we all think (... most of us )! Greetings! __________________ Always take a look behind.

May 10, 2005, 12:59 PM	#5
amoghazy2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Controlling effects from cakewalk Music Creator Pro 2004 I had just installed KX Project on my Soundblaster Live!, regarding to DSP effect for single MIDI channel, I read router guide but how can I control effects from MIDI applications such as Cakewalk Music Creator Pro 2004. Thanks

May 11, 2005, 12:58 PM	#6
amoghazy2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	More than Reverb & Chorus What I need is how to control effects other than REVERB & CHORUS from MIDI Software tools???

May 3, 2005, 11:30 PM	Thread Starter #3
monnez DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: italy\marche Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	THANK YOU FOR THE REPLAY, I THINK I'LL FIND IT VERY USEFUL

May 15, 2005, 06:24 PM	#7
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	The kX router sends the different MIDI channel sounds of the synth to different outputs of the FXBus in the DSP (if you want). Read kXRouter guide in kX-help files. The kXAutomation makes it possible to control each slider or knob or switch of any supported plugin in the DSP via MIDI controller messages. Read the kXAutomation gude in the help files. __________________ Always take a look behind.

May 20, 2005, 09:37 PM	#8
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	travel rec , ive been using kxrouter to seperate my midi channels but because there is only fx bus's form 2-15 (fx bus 0 and 1 is for wav) it is limited to only only 7 seperate midi channels. is that right or is there a way around this? i route these channels into the MX6 which of course only has 6 channels to route to, so i can only add seperate fx to 6 midi channels in total... is there a way i havent seen to improve this also? hope this is not a stupid question. im sure its staring me in the face!!!!! tyhanx in advance trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

May 21, 2005, 09:58 AM	#9
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi trev! It all depends on your card model. Afaik 10k1 cards have only fXBus 0 to 15, 10k2 cards have also 16 to 32, so more ressources. If you need more mixing capabilities, chain more stereo Mix plugins together or make a mixer for your own and put it in the DSP. Or you download this , unzip it and register it and put it into the DSP: http://www.electricstart.de/plug/monimix6.zip Greetings! __________________ Always take a look behind.

May 21, 2005, 07:07 PM	#10
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	thanx travelrec, i tried your monimix6 and it didnt load but said "instantiating effect/plugin" is that cos its for 3538? (i have 3537 at the mo as i'm still novice!!) chaining stereo mix plugins dont give me the ability to add fx do they, or am i missing what you are saying? i could use 2 MX6 mixers but still as i have 10k1 card (i think.... emu APS it is) i am still stuck by the no of busses i have arent I? thanks for your help so far trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

May 23, 2005, 10:44 AM	#11
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	No, no... Monimix6 is a simple *.da file, so usable on all current kX versions. Unzip it, register it and then it should be found in the FX-menu in the DSP as "Monitor-Mix6". Just tested it, it works here on both 3537 and 3538 drivers. Please try it again. For your card I´m sorry - only 16 FX-busses available... . __________________ Always take a look behind.

May 23, 2005, 04:54 PM	#12
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	thanx travelrec for your patience, i dont know why it didnt work first time as i did the same and it worked this time!! mixer looked nice at the outset......but I'm having some issues with working it out! ok... when i connect from my src fx buss to this 'monitor mixer' it has 'In 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8' which made me think "cool 8 stereo inputs!" and it has 'pan' under each input. but looking at it closer it seems they are only mono inputs. is that right or am i missing something? i'm not sure how i am supposed to connect from src to the mixer without losing stereo! (again!!!).. hope you can help? i really am crap at working out all this in, out,send,buss stuff!!! trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

May 24, 2005, 08:54 PM	#13
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	ok... interesting. the mixer worked fine when i re-registered it. but it seemed to stop working after a while- "instantiating effect/plugin"'. I' m not sure when it does this yet, maybe when i shut down and restart comp?? i'll investigate and let you know. (if youre interested that is?? ) i have tried re downloading and unzipping again but no luck. just wont work!! hmm trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR] Last edited by trevbushell; May 24, 2005 at 09:00 PM.

May 25, 2005, 09:18 AM	#14
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, bit strange - since it is really only code for dane-editor it should work okay... used the MoniMix 6 here for many months without problems, now I use an upgraded version with more outs and some special routing for digital and analog paths... Maybe you should create a new GUID and paste it into the code instead of the old one, maybe you have an interference with another plugin... Okay, you´re right - there are 8 Mono inputs (all pins in the DSP are mono...) and you can select via the pan slider, where in the stereo-base your signal plays. 2 channels and pan sliders one left one right means stereo. Please let me know what you´ve discovered. __________________ Always take a look behind.

May 25, 2005, 09:21 AM	#15
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	will do! __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

May 25, 2005, 09:18 PM	#16
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	hmmm, travelrec, it just doesnt work anymore. starnge though cos it worked once, oh well I guess I'll pass on that. Hpefully waiting for 3538 anyway as this will expand capabilities alot for me i hope? thanx for your help though trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

May 26, 2005, 07:15 AM	#17
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Okay - sorry for the hassle - here it works well. I doubt that 3538 will expand the capabilities for you, since your card is still the same. Some more plugins and a better driver you will get, but for more than 8 inputs you have to build your own mixing plug or chaining some together, like before. Anyway.... Greetings! __________________ Always take a look behind.

May 26, 2005, 12:32 PM	#18
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	ok, thanx, I'm not experienced enough to even start thinking about making my own plugins, but maybee one day! greetings to you too trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

May 27, 2005, 06:17 AM	#19
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I thought that also, but for simple fx with standard instructions and no dlls or skins, it´s quite easy if you understood the structure of 10k1 / 10k2 and its instruction codes. I think I link you to the newest version of MoniMix7 and then you could test again, maybe this works for you. Greetings! http://www.electricstart.de/plug/monimix7.da __________________ Always take a look behind. Last edited by TravelRec.; May 27, 2005 at 07:31 AM.

Jun 7, 2005, 08:43 PM	#20
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	excuse my ignorance..the link you give me for monomix 7 here is the written code only, yes? do i copy and paste this into something? I did notice a thread where lemury is suggesting he could make the MX6 into MX8 which would solve my problems which would be cool. trev trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]

Jun 9, 2005, 08:56 AM	#21
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Yep, it´s code but you can use it in that way: link right click, save taget as..., then it will be saved on your HD as a kX-file. Otherwise, open Dane (kX code-editor, right-click kX-tray, kX Editor) and paste the code there, save it as monimix7.kx and that is it. And yes, MX8 would be cool, but on slow machines the peak-meters eat up some ressources, monimix doesn´t has that problem. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jun 9, 2005, 07:32 PM	#22
trevbushell DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: portsmouth, england Posts: 323 Rep Power: 0	cool thanx, will have a go. ive got a fast machine so mx8 would probs be ok for me. but monomix 7 would be cool in ther meantime, thanx travelrec! as always soo helpful trev __________________ [COLOR=black]http://www.myspace.com/trevbushell[/COLOR]