ATI soon to fail WHQL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Aug 27, 2004, 04:14 PM

Sounds like the usual drama queen Inquirer article, but
apparently there is some fire in all this smoke, as it
has garnered an official response from ATI...

Quote:

...From our perspective this is a non-issue and WHQL certification is, and will continue to be, a top priority with each Catalyst release. As far as WHQL certification goes you typically either pass or fail. There is some variance in the rate of pass or fail though....

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18119

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Aug 27, 2004, 04:15 PM

I am soooooooooooooo glad I have decided to sit this round of
cards out.

Judas · Aug 27, 2004, 05:17 PM

uh?..

ATI has failed WHQL afew times.... and one being the unreleased cat 3.5's? (which ever didn't show up and was skipped)

if it fails.... they won't release it..they'll continue on with the next set

OR they'll release it as a beta... zero support

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 27, 2004, 05:34 PM

some smell of bs, but i take all thier articals that way anymore...
with a truck load of salt

Judas · Aug 27, 2004, 06:00 PM

truck load of salt is still rather valuable...

mike2h · Aug 27, 2004, 06:31 PM

you guys are funny. if this had been about nvidia......
i actually think this is one of the more believable, well written articles from inq(does not happen too often). no bashing, good points & explanations.
do not think it is as big as a downside for ati as they make out. ati has been an oem supplier forever & knows how to work the system.
i think the only people it will really affect is the non enthusiast who buys a pre-built with one of those cards & does not know how to change settings.
then again he/she probably wont know what they are missing.
ps. without knowing specifics or having any exp i would guess that the difference in performance is very subtle.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 27, 2004, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2h

you guys are funny. if this had been about nvidia......
i actually think this is one of the more believable, well written articles from inq(does not happen too often). no bashing, good points & explanations.
do not think it is as big as a downside for ati as they make out. ati has been an oem supplier forever & knows how to work the system.
i think the only people it will really affect is the non enthusiast who buys a pre-built with one of those cards & does not know how to change settings.
then again he/she probably wont know what they are missing.
ps. without knowing specifics or having any exp i would guess that the difference in performance is very subtle.

are you not rembering thier last artical on the subject was ati bash fest, twist the facts fest.... and praise nvidia the new messia

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Aug 27, 2004, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

uh?..ATI has failed WHQL afew times....

Think the main point of the article is that with the war
going on between ATI and nVidia atm for the bragging rights
and crown of "Most Powerful VPU in the World", and of
course for your dollars, the lack of an advanced feature
(which can only be turned on, and even then only emulated
after it has been released into the mainstream)
seems to suggest that slowly...ATI is losing at least a bit
of it's claim to the throne.

(nvidia has "partial" support of PS 3.0...which could possibly
be full support with the current cards if....)

If nVidia was still trying to get the FX series off the ground, or
maybe out of the ground, this wouldn't even be an issue really.
That's the point I made about Inquirer being the usual drama
queen.

Still...that is kinda bad. With the X800 and X800XT already
hard to come by, due to low supply and (dwindling?) demand,
the need to circumvent the O/S is just another black eye, in
what is maybe the bloodiest fight in the history of PC hardware.

Well...maybe not quite AMD vs. Intel...but...

In the end, I'm having a bit of fun watching this cat fight.

mike2h · Aug 27, 2004, 06:59 PM

what does that have to do with this article?
i did not read the article you are referring too, but given your hatred of all things nvidia i'll take some of your 'truckload of salt' with that.

mike2h · Aug 27, 2004, 07:02 PM

bmg.
that is pretty much what i got from it too.
bottom line - the more they(ati/nvidia) fight, the better of we are.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 27, 2004, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMG_Cya=-

Still...that is kinda bad. With the X800 and X800XT already hard to come by, due to low supply and (dwindling?) demand,the need to circumvent the O/S is just another black eye, in what is maybe the bloodiest fight in the history of PC hardware.

That is one reason why i got my 6800GT over an x800pro. Another reason is because the 6800GT has 16 pipelines whereas the x800pro only has 12. And supposedly, ATI is going to launch an x800GT; a downclocked x800XT. I couldn't wait any longer for an upgrade, so i got me the 6800GT....it was simply readily available.

Aug 27, 2004, 05:34 PM	#4
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	some smell of bs, but i take all thier articals that way anymore... with a truck load of salt __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Aug 27, 2004 at 06:09 PM.

Aug 27, 2004, 06:31 PM	#6
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	you guys are funny. if this had been about nvidia...... i actually think this is one of the more believable, well written articles from inq(does not happen too often). no bashing, good points & explanations. do not think it is as big as a downside for ati as they make out. ati has been an oem supplier forever & knows how to work the system. i think the only people it will really affect is the non enthusiast who buys a pre-built with one of those cards & does not know how to change settings. then again he/she probably wont know what they are missing. ps. without knowing specifics or having any exp i would guess that the difference in performance is very subtle. __________________

Aug 27, 2004, 06:59 PM	#9
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	neon what does that have to do with this article? i did not read the article you are referring too, but given your hatred of all things nvidia i'll take some of your 'truckload of salt' with that. __________________

Aug 27, 2004, 07:02 PM	#10
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	bmg. that is pretty much what i got from it too. bottom line - the more they(ati/nvidia) fight, the better of we are. __________________

Aug 27, 2004, 04:15 PM	Thread Starter #2
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 718 Rep Power: 0	I am soooooooooooooo glad I have decided to sit this round of cards out.