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Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Has anyone had any trouble getting Fallout 3 to run on Windows 7 Beta 1? I installed the 32-bit version last night (much spunkier than Vista to be sure) and so far Fallout 3 is the only one that fails to launch. I copied the Fallout 3 Launcher to my desktop and set compatibility mode to Vista (and then XP SP2) as well as set it to run as Administrator. Nothing.
Any ideas?
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
My first guess is that you've got some troublesome driver issues dude!
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Have you tried direct launching the game? The launcher (fallout3lancher.exe) is where the copy protection is, but the fallout3.exe file itself is not using copy protection.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
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Someone recommended updating the Games for Windows Live files, which I did, but that didn't help either.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Are you bringing your saved games over from another machine? If so, be sure to delete the fallout.ini, and falloutperfs.ini files as these are built on the other machine. If you have them you need to run the launcher first, hit the "Defaults" button, then try to run the game.
Did you install the game on this Windows 7 install first, and then created direct shortcuts, or did you move this from another machine/install to the Windows 7 one? Is it a dual-boot? The reason I ask is that the registry listings will not have been written for the game if under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3] . Specifically, you need this in the registry: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Bethesda Softworks] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\1.00.0000] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout3] "Installed Path"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Bethesda Softworks\\Fallout 3\\" BTW, the last line looks the same, but it isn't. The path in the registry is "Fallout3" not "Fallout 3". |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Tipstaff... I'll give your suggestions a try tomorrow. To answer a few of your questions:
I dual boot on a Mac Pro but Windows 7 is installed on it's own drive. I upgraded Vista and did not do a clean install. So I didn't move save files or anything over. I think I've narrowed down the problem. nVidia. The first problem was SecuROM was causing the launch problem. I got the patch for that and then the game launcher opened. But when I tried to play the game I would get a black screen and just audio. I have now got it running, but not with my ideal settings. I have to run it in window mode at a lower resolution. I can only assume it's the nVidia drivers causing the problem. Unfortunately, I can't seem to uninstall the beta video drivers and re-install the latest Vista drivers. Every time I try Windows automatically re-installs the beta.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
does it just crash with errors? or does the launcher just keep coming up?
I had the latter problem, and it turned out to be because I started adding/removing locations to the Documents library, check those paths, and make sure wherever its pointing too has "My Games/Fallout 3/" in it, and your corresponding saves and what not, this solved it for me. Hope it helps. *ninja edit* Failed to read entire thread, hopefully what I posted will help someone.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
No problem here. I installed the game fresh and though I haven't played much it starts up fine. I haven't installed "Games for Windows Live" though as I'll avoid it for a while. Last I installed it with GTA4 the Fallout 3 savegame structure was rerouted to an empty folder which was just a farking brilliant move...
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
I knew it would be the drivers. Unfortunately all one can do at this point is wait up to a week for proper drivers to be released. I suppose this goes for all beta software. Good Luck.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
I have issues with Fallout 3 also. I think my problem is with the x64 Catalyst driver which I wasn't able to get installed. I just found a possible solution for that problem here: Download ATI Catalyst 64-bit Windows 7 Preview Driver Driver for Windows 7 - Softpedia.
When I launch Fallout, I get audio, but, no video. When I get home, I'm going to try the solution posted on that site. If all else fails, I'll just play the game on Vista, Windows 7 got installed on a spare hard drive so I would affect my Vista install in case I wanted to go back to it. Other than Fallout 3 and the Media Center having issues, I'm loving Windows 7 so far. |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
For Nvidia cards, you have to do Windows Update to get the right ones from them, correct? Cuz there's no download for preview drivers otherwise as far as I can see.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
That's correct. Nvidia actually posted a page saying to get them from Microsoft: NVIDIA Graphics Supercharge Microsoft Windows 7
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Those are the drivers I have installed.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
What version is it?
The reason I ask is because I know that with the latest drivers, v.181.20, I'm having constant crashes with them. And I do mean constant, at least with Fallout 3, and odd crashes with other games, and in every case I get a reference to nvd3dum.dll. I don't know what Nvidia did to their drivers, but they messed something up. |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
So, I've got Fallout running on my system now. Here's what I had to do:
1. If you have an ATI card, download the preview package and extract the files. You'll be able to get the driver installed by going through Device Manager. 2. There is a No-CD launcher available on the web. I don't know the rules about linking to something like that so I'll just put it out there that it's available. 3. Install Games for Windows Live 2.0: Download details: Games for Windows - LIVE 2.0 Setup 4. The game should run from the No-CD launcher. Log into GFWL and allow it to download your account info. Close the game, copy your current saves into your profile folder, go back in and game on! |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
I've had a little more time to play with it and this is what I've found.
If I try to run the Fallout3 executable the game locks on load. All I get is a black screen. This seems to be the case in Windows XP and Vista compatibility modes also. If I run the game from the FalloutLauncher the game will start but all I get is audio... no video, just a black screen. If I change the games settings in FalloutLauncher to Windowed Mode the game boots and plays fine. I've tried this with the following nVidia drivers: Visa 180.48, Vista 181.20 and the Windows 7 nVidia Beta drivers from the Windows Update page. So the game works... just not in full screen mode. I do find it strange though that the game CAN load but only from the FalloutLauncher and not the main executable. Weird.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
What video card do you have, btw?
Also, are there any devices in Device Manager that have no drivers for? |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
I have the nVidia 8800GT.
On a whim I switched my primary and secondary monitors. That fixed it. Seems my 24" Apple Cinema Display just ain't happy with the game in full screen mode.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
LOL! Didn't think about that. No reason to.
It could be a sync issue. Normally that monitors max rez at 1920x1200 is 60hz, but some will allow for 56hz too. Hmm.. were you connecting more than one monitor up at the same time? And if so, what connection types? All DVI, or a mix? |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Both monitors are always connected but usually the Cinema Display is the only active one unless I'm editing. And yes... both are connected via DVI.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
UPDATE! In the process of checking the hz settings I discovered W7 had activated my second monitor! (I normally have the smaller one shut off on Windows.) I disabled it and tried the game and it loaded fine in Full Screen! Fallout must have been getting confused with the two monitors set at different resolutions.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Has anyone else had an issue with it coming up asking for a direct x 9 dll? I'm a bit mystified as I had Fallout 3 running on W7 before, but have just reinstalled W7, and now it's asking for 'd3dx9_38.dll'. Shouldn't it be running dx10 anyway? Tried running a dx9 installer but didn't help. Got the nvidia driver from windows update, no other driver issues I'm aware of.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
I had to copy several DLL files from the Fallout 3 folder to the Windows/System folder, but I don't remember having to do that with Direct X. Have you downloaded the latest version and tried installing it? I think it came out in Nov.
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
Yeah I tried installing a dx9 redistrib, didn't work. I got it going in the end, found the dll on a pc running xp and jus copied it into the syswow64 folder on my machine.
Probably not a very sensible solution, but seems to be working fine now! |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
I have problem too. The game's seemed to work properly after installed. But when i load a saved game, it crash and keep crashing all the time. It also crash when i start a new game. I'm using Windows 7 Build 7100. Anyone help me ???
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
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Question: Are you trying to load old saved games from a previous install? If so, what version of the OS were you running before? Specifically, was it 32bit or 64bit, and what version of Windows 7 are you running now? Something to try, if you have any add-ons active, be sure to disable them, so that you only have the main game running. Also, be sure to install the latest version of Games for Windows Live, and the latest version of DirectX (or at the very least run the DirectX installer on the DVD itself). |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
1st: Yes! I tried to load old saved game from previous install, and I used Vista SP 1 32bit. Like i said, I'm using Windows 7 RC1 Build 7100 32bit.
2nd: What does "add-ons active" mean? 3rd: I downloaded them and installed, but nothing changed. BTW, I'm using the VGA driver for Vista which goes with my VGA (ASUS 8500GT 256MB, pretty bad but I can play it well in Vista with Dual Core 1.8Ghz and 2 GB ram) Last edited by SilverLight; Jul 1, 2009 at 06:37 AM. Reason: update |
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
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2. Fallout 3 (as did Oblivion) supports user created, and developer created add-ons. Some such add-ons can include interface changes, textures, new items, and so fourth. To use these you either overwrite files, or if properly done, "activate" files from within the launcher for the game. I have to assume by your response that you probably don't have any active, but just in case I'll tell you how to check. First, run the launcher. You will see an option for Data Files. Now, you will always see the main game as an option, and any other files that the launcher has detected within the Fallout 3 folder will show up too. You mentioned you are using the drivers that came with the video card. Are they Vista drivers? I didn't suggest this before, but it is always worth trying the latest drivers, and since you are using the drivers that came with the card they could be quite old (old as in that the driver would not included fixes for Windows 7, or specific to Fallout 3). You can get the latest drivers from Nvidias site HERE. Another suggestion is to update your sound drivers too. If you are running onboard audio, and can tell me what your motherboard manufacturer and model is, I can tell you specifically what drivers to get (just in case the motherboard uses Realtek HD audio, you can get that driver HERE). Edit: Out of curiosity, have you tried to start a new game, and if so, did it crash with that too?
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Re: Fallout 3 on Windows 7 Beta 1
I don't have any add-on active. I also updated my sound and VGA driver to the latest but nothing happened(I'm using MB with Realtek onboard audio). And when I start a new game, it crash, too. What should I do to play it in Win7, I really like it ? If no one has any idea, I think I'll have to use windows XP again.
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