My two Complaints

RealityRipple · Jan 24, 2009, 03:45 AM

First and foremost, I want an up button in Windows Explorer. I can understand making it hidden by default, but not having the availability of one is just dumb. (The Alt+Up shortcut hurts my fingers, so don't suggest it.)

Secondly, what the hell is this? What's even worse is you can open MSPaint for XP if you have the EXE, but if you go to Save, it crashes. That's just not fair.

Robert McClelland · Jan 24, 2009, 05:02 AM

Don't worry I'm heading back to my XP home now. I can't really read the folder when you try rename them lol it's hard to read them.

Judas · Jan 24, 2009, 03:31 PM

the new MS paint is using a similare gui design as ms office 2007 or newer products.

Take a little time to work through the gui... it's a alot different, but as soon as you understand how it works, it's far more capable then the shittier old version.

RealityRipple · Jan 25, 2009, 03:10 AM

That's... exactly what I don't like. If I want a capable image system, I'll use The GIMP (which I do). I use MSPaint for designing application icons, pixel by pixel, selecting colors individually and using either the pencil or the line tool almost exclusively. I have no use for any other features.
I'll probably end up making my own MSPaint clone with just the basics I need...

Syndicate2083 · Jan 27, 2009, 09:48 PM

Well, did the new MSPaint remove the functions you don't want? If not, whats wrong with expanding its capabilities? I don't see the detractor there.

RealityRipple · Jan 28, 2009, 12:14 AM

Have you tried using the zoom? You have to zoom in step by step to get to what used to be a single selection of 8x. The first 20 color boxes are static and uneditable. Setting one color for left click and another for right takes twice as long because you can't just right click a color box. It's a disaster for what I do.

Judas · Jan 28, 2009, 04:13 AM

down in the right hand corner is a zoom slider..... it works...

RealityRipple · Jan 28, 2009, 04:21 AM

Got a solution for the select tool being off by a pixel for bottom and right locations?

VampyrByte · Jan 28, 2009, 03:30 PM

I second the thought on the up button, have the same problem on vista, and although some say the new way of doing it is better and much easier, i think its bollocks. I regularly find myself in cmd navigating folders, renaming files and whathave cause vista's handling of it is so subtly diffrent to XP, which most of us got used to in the mid 90's. one thing i was hopeing for in 7 was the return of the classic Windows Explorer. Shame.
As for MSpaint, can you not do the pixel by pixel thing in GIMP aswell?
i can understand your frustrations when all you need is a basic piece of software, and someone keeps overloading it with stuff you dont want :@

Judas · Jan 28, 2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealityRipple

Got a solution for the select tool being off by a pixel for bottom and right locations?

among other bugs... report it. use the feedback system... it's there for a reason, and if you have beta.... you should be providing what you can. Suggest a solution.

Maybe microsoft should provide an option to change the paint skin from win7 to win95 to make it easier for people that like the older version style setup.

RealityRipple · Jan 28, 2009, 08:36 PM

I'm actually collecting a list of things to provide MS with:

Icons in Explorer and the Start menu freeze up the system and often load slowly. (See Spider Solitaire.zip for a badly made shortcut created by Win7's installation, as an example) (BE CAREFUL! THIS FILE IS THE ANTICHRIST, I SWEAR!)
Some icons show the generic "unknown file" icon for no reason.
Icons should do a hard reload (not from cache) on Ctrl+F5 or some other simple way.
Start Menu could be improved:
-Folders above files should at least be optional.
-If recent programs in the Start menu is disabled, All Programs should be open by default.
-Folders should open on hover with the submenu hover option.
MSPaint needs to be reverted to the XP version or earlier, honestly.
-The selection tool is off by a pixel.
-The first 20 colors are uneditable.
-Right clicking on colors needs to be brought back.
When dragging the taskbar, it will occasionally glitch and move to a vertical alignment without moving the taskbar itself. (See DragVert.jpg)
If Search other files and libraries is set to Don't search, the search bar in the Start menu should be hidden.
Items pinned on the taskbar should be renamable, or better: have properties and a location in Explorer that's easy to get to, like opening the QuickLaunch folder.

Syndicate2083 · Jan 29, 2009, 04:24 PM

"Items pinned on the taskbar should be renamable, or better: have properties and a location in Explorer that's easy to get to, like opening the QuickLaunch folder."

That would be a good idea. I wish I could rename a 'folder' when i put it on the taskbar to use as a 'quick launch' function.

Jan 24, 2009, 03:45 AM	#1
RealityRipple Embrace Entropy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 195 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	My two Complaints First and foremost, I want an up button in Windows Explorer. I can understand making it hidden by default, but not having the availability of one is just dumb. (The Alt+Up shortcut hurts my fingers, so don't suggest it.) Secondly, what the hell is this? What's even worse is you can open MSPaint for XP if you have the EXE, but if you go to Save, it crashes. That's just not fair. __________________

Jan 24, 2009, 05:02 AM	#2
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,668 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints Don't worry I'm heading back to my XP home now. I can't really read the folder when you try rename them lol it's hard to read them. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Jan 25, 2009, 03:10 AM	Thread Starter #4
RealityRipple Embrace Entropy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 195 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints That's... exactly what I don't like. If I want a capable image system, I'll use The GIMP (which I do). I use MSPaint for designing application icons, pixel by pixel, selecting colors individually and using either the pencil or the line tool almost exclusively. I have no use for any other features. I'll probably end up making my own MSPaint clone with just the basics I need... __________________

Jan 27, 2009, 09:48 PM	#5
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints Well, did the new MSPaint remove the functions you don't want? If not, whats wrong with expanding its capabilities? I don't see the detractor there. __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Jan 28, 2009, 12:14 AM	Thread Starter #6
RealityRipple Embrace Entropy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 195 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints Have you tried using the zoom? You have to zoom in step by step to get to what used to be a single selection of 8x. The first 20 color boxes are static and uneditable. Setting one color for left click and another for right takes twice as long because you can't just right click a color box. It's a disaster for what I do. __________________

Jan 28, 2009, 04:21 AM	Thread Starter #8
RealityRipple Embrace Entropy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 195 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints Got a solution for the select tool being off by a pixel for bottom and right locations? __________________

Jan 28, 2009, 03:30 PM	#9
VampyrByte DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints I second the thought on the up button, have the same problem on vista, and although some say the new way of doing it is better and much easier, i think its bollocks. I regularly find myself in cmd navigating folders, renaming files and whathave cause vista's handling of it is so subtly diffrent to XP, which most of us got used to in the mid 90's. one thing i was hopeing for in 7 was the return of the classic Windows Explorer. Shame. As for MSpaint, can you not do the pixel by pixel thing in GIMP aswell? i can understand your frustrations when all you need is a basic piece of software, and someone keeps overloading it with stuff you dont want :@ __________________

Jan 28, 2009, 08:36 PM	Thread Starter #11
RealityRipple Embrace Entropy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 195 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints I'm actually collecting a list of things to provide MS with: Icons in Explorer and the Start menu freeze up the system and often load slowly. (See Spider Solitaire.zip for a badly made shortcut created by Win7's installation, as an example) (BE CAREFUL! THIS FILE IS THE ANTICHRIST, I SWEAR!) Some icons show the generic "unknown file" icon for no reason. Icons should do a hard reload (not from cache) on Ctrl+F5 or some other simple way. Start Menu could be improved: -Folders above files should at least be optional. -If recent programs in the Start menu is disabled, All Programs should be open by default. -Folders should open on hover with the submenu hover option. MSPaint needs to be reverted to the XP version or earlier, honestly. -The selection tool is off by a pixel. -The first 20 colors are uneditable. -Right clicking on colors needs to be brought back. When dragging the taskbar, it will occasionally glitch and move to a vertical alignment without moving the taskbar itself. (See DragVert.jpg) If Search other files and libraries is set to Don't search, the search bar in the Start menu should be hidden. Items pinned on the taskbar should be renamable, or better: have properties and a location in Explorer that's easy to get to, like opening the QuickLaunch folder. __________________

Jan 29, 2009, 04:24 PM	#12
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: My two Complaints "Items pinned on the taskbar should be renamable, or better: have properties and a location in Explorer that's easy to get to, like opening the QuickLaunch folder." That would be a good idea. I wish I could rename a 'folder' when i put it on the taskbar to use as a 'quick launch' function. __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.