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Old Dec 6, 2009, 12:00 AM   #1
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Hi there

I want to ask some opinions on the following subject:

I have used Diskeeper for a long time on win XP x86 but now that i switched to win7 x64 and this built in defragmenter seems to do a good job and it seems to be faster than Diskeeper was on XP.. or is it somehow related to it being an x64 OS (the speed of defragmentation) ?

So my question is do you guys think that the built in defragmenter on win7 is a good option or would you still recommend Diskeeper or maybe some other dafregmenter that does a better job ?

Thanks.

EDIT: Yes yes i know i said defragmenter a few too many times :P
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

I used SM9 paid version where you renewal ever year . So far it does great job.
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

I say the built-in defragger does a good enough job already. I've already tried some of the other great defraggers that I've used on XP, like Puran Defrag and PerfectDisk, on W7 and it seemed to me that they made everything a bit sluggish compared to the built-in.

I wonder if there's a comparison site up somewhere.
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

Yeah i got the same impression. The only thing im missing is boot time defrag. If the built in had that option it would be perfect.
I have searched google for a while and havent find any good comparison sites mostly what i found is people on forums recommending smartdefrag and comparing it to other free programs that i have never heard of.

@ Robert: im not sure what SM9 is? im guessing System Mechanic ??
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

I agree with MythicaL, I have the built-in defrag (Windows 7) scheduled once a week and I think it is enough. I doubt that I would notice any difference using some third party defrag program (and spend fortune for it).
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

you can try this one is faster then vista defrager works good to..

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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

I tried Defraggler as you suggested and it is taking a very long time to work trough D: (size: 220GB 77% full) :\ 82% in 4-5 hours with free space defragmenting turned off but it is reorganizing the whole partition so ill let it finish and see if it goes faster on further jobs.

It did leave a small fragmented part on C: not sure why but no other program has done this excluding the XP built in defrag ofc. Will give it another run after D: finishes.

EDIT: Well it runs much more smoothly now and fast but it still did leave part of C: fragmented and doesent seem to want to defrag it no matter what i do :\ Tried checked disc for errors and no errors were found. Tried quick and full defrag and it wont defrag it..
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

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I say the built-in defragger does a good enough job already. I've already tried some of the other great defraggers that I've used on XP, like Puran Defrag and PerfectDisk, on W7 and it seemed to me that they made everything a bit sluggish compared to the built-in.

I wonder if there's a comparison site up somewhere.
I also agree with this post.. Win 7's deffagger works very well..

For me Vista's Defragger took more than 12 hours to defrag 280G's worth of files.

Win7 took 2 hours (A little over) to complete the 3 passes..

For me it's another Plus Point for Win 7.
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

During Vista I compared a lot of professional defrag programs and had been running mostly O&O Defrag for years under XP. Apart from the user interface in O&O I also liked how its quick defrag mode avoided carrying out full space defragmentation in every run. With Vista the built-in defrag caught on to this basic idea as an option and now in Windows 7 that "quick" mode is done by default. Command line Defrag now also has the option (/M) to work on all drives at the same time as an option, which further cuts down the working time considerably on large storage systems.

My suggestion for using the defrag in Windows 7 (or Vista) to its fullest is to either modify the standard scheduled task "ScheduledDefrag" to run a little more often and to use the /M command line switch, or create a new task if accustomed to doing such things. I have a schedule set to defrag all drives simultaneously twice a week without waiting for the system to become idle like the standard task does. In the case of scheduled tasks "idle" means no user input for x number of minutes. While defragmenting multiple drives may draw quite a bit of CPU cycles the job is run in low priority mode by default, so even then it doesn't bog down the system much, and gets done quicker anyway compared to one disk at a time. With the default defrag task possibly taking a long time to finish, if the system is restarted before it's done then the task does not resume but just starts over a week later when the schedule comes up again.

By all means use something more thorough like Defraggler on the system drive(where more thorough defragmenting might make at least some difference), but not very often as it easily gets redundant. Windows itself already rearranges the location of the most often used files on the system drive while defragmenting, doing so since Windows XP.
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

After a bit of fooling around with defraggler im back on win7 built in defrag because it does the job considerably faster.

I might get a trial of diskeeper 2010 just to compare it with the built in but i think ill be sticking to the win7 defrag for now.

Will post my results after i compare them

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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

i use diskeeper... though in win7, the disk shows very little fragmentation with diskeepers monitor....
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

MyDefrag is the best defrag tool there is. It's free and it's the best. Try it now thank me later.
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

Well for what its worth Diskeeper does do a good job IMO. Its as fast if not faster than win7 defrag and had a lot more features like boot time defrag and intelliwrite that do seem to make a difference.
The only downsides ofc being that you have to pay for it and the HDD seems to make a bit more noise and is a bit more active when IntelliWrite is turned on.

Even so i will stick to win7 defrag for now since i rly dont want to spend money on diskeeper atm because im saving up for some gifts but just if anyone is wondering Diskeeper does seem to do a better job than win7 defrag.

Oh btw i didnt try MyDefrag yet i might as well give it a go too Thanks Shamrock
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Re: Disc Defragmenter.

I prefer the built in feature..

i've got it set to defrag at 12 noon.

Kinda sucks that alot of people don't have this changed as it's default is i beleive 1am which majority of people don't have their computers on during that time. where as at 12pm most people are eating or away.
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Yeah i got the same impression. The only thing im missing is boot time defrag. If the built in had that option it would be perfect.
I have searched google for a while and havent find any good comparison sites mostly what i found is people on forums recommending smartdefrag and comparing it to other free programs that i have never heard of.

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Yup Iolo.com They do have great deals to renewal ever year for about 15 bucks lol. After once you paid for full version you get up to 3 computers. I think.
Lastest version SM9.5 I also used TuneUp Utilities 2010 I like tuneup programs hehe. Both do great job if one miss one thing other other one picks it up better.
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