whats with the missing flat panel scaling

Chrysalis · Dec 4, 2009, 08:15 PM

I am still using XP, got my XP license ready.
Got extra ram ready as going 64bit.
Ready to go for installation.

However on my test box I still see there is no 'flat panel scaling' options, a very basic feature that works in XP and I use a lot, for me is a 'showstopper'.

Is there some big reason why nvidia do not have this in windows 7 and is it even planned? no reply from my email to them and nothing in their FAQ about it.

Jac · Dec 4, 2009, 09:39 PM

I'm not sure if this is what you mean but there are Nvidia scaling options in the Nvidia Control Panel in Win7. They are under the adjust desktop size and position tab.

LesserHellspawn · Dec 30, 2009, 09:34 AM

Not what he means. He means the flatpanel scaling, which for example allows to display 4:3 resolutions with black side borders in the correct aspect ratio on 16:10 panels. That feature indeed disappeared with Win 7, while it worked fine in XP. Has been bugging me too for a while now, as I have a monitor that isn't capable of correctly scaling itself, so I'd require that driver option. It seems that Win 7 treats full HD capable displays as HDTV, disabling the panel scaling option. The NV control panel even recommends 1920x1080 resolution for me, while at the same time 1920x1200 is recognized as native resolution. Talk about weird.

LesserHellspawn · May 24, 2010, 09:12 PM

The good news: The option is finally back with the 256 betas. The bad news: The setting has no effect.

Edit: Problem unsolved in latest WHQL too.

LesserHellspawn · Oct 12, 2010, 09:48 PM

And the report for the newest 260 betas: Going backwards. Now I can't even pick the option to use Nvidia scaling, the option just resets when I hit apply. So it's impossible to say if it would work with the option set.

Judas · Oct 12, 2010, 09:56 PM

imo.. the only real solution to scaling issues is to use windowed mode for any games you wish to run that are 4:3..... allowing you to fill proper scaled 4:3 part of the screen leaving you with if i you wish.. either icons or no icons depending on your desktop...

LesserHellspawn · Oct 13, 2010, 06:15 AM

Well, it used to run flawlessly under Windows XP. Personally I find black borders on the screen less irritating than seeing part of the desktop behind the game. I really wonder what's so different in Windows 7 that makes it so difficult to fix that function.

Judas · Oct 13, 2010, 04:43 PM

personally i try my best to actually make older games stretch yet keep their ratios correct on my screens..

by adjust the FOV or other settings that i can find..

alot of stuff is available on those widescreen forums with solutions.

LesserHellspawn · May 18, 2011, 07:44 AM

It's fixed !

Nvidia reworked the scaling option in the 275 series driver from the ground up. 3 scaling modes, option to set scaling to display or GPU. GPU stting works flawlessly.

Finally I can play games that do not support widescreen in their correct aspect ratio again.

Dec 4, 2009, 08:15 PM	#1
Chrysalis DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	whats with the missing flat panel scaling I am still using XP, got my XP license ready. Got extra ram ready as going 64bit. Ready to go for installation. However on my test box I still see there is no 'flat panel scaling' options, a very basic feature that works in XP and I use a lot, for me is a 'showstopper'. Is there some big reason why nvidia do not have this in windows 7 and is it even planned? no reply from my email to them and nothing in their FAQ about it.

Dec 4, 2009, 09:39 PM	#2
Jac HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: England Posts: 769 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	Re: whats with the missing flat panel scaling I'm not sure if this is what you mean but there are Nvidia scaling options in the Nvidia Control Panel in Win7. They are under the *adjust desktop size and position* tab.

Dec 30, 2009, 09:34 AM	#3
LesserHellspawn HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 0	AW: whats with the missing flat panel scaling Not what he means. He means the flatpanel scaling, which for example allows to display 4:3 resolutions with black side borders in the correct aspect ratio on 16:10 panels. That feature indeed disappeared with Win 7, while it worked fine in XP. Has been bugging me too for a while now, as I have a monitor that isn't capable of correctly scaling itself, so I'd require that driver option. It seems that Win 7 treats full HD capable displays as HDTV, disabling the panel scaling option. The NV control panel even recommends 1920x1080 resolution for me, while at the same time 1920x1200 is recognized as native resolution. Talk about weird.

May 24, 2010, 09:12 PM	#4
LesserHellspawn HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 0	AW: whats with the missing flat panel scaling The good news: The option is finally back with the 256 betas. The bad news: The setting has no effect. Edit: Problem unsolved in latest WHQL too. Last edited by LesserHellspawn; Jun 15, 2010 at 07:18 PM.

Oct 12, 2010, 09:48 PM	#5
LesserHellspawn HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 0	AW: whats with the missing flat panel scaling And the report for the newest 260 betas: Going backwards. Now I can't even pick the option to use Nvidia scaling, the option just resets when I hit apply. So it's impossible to say if it would work with the option set.

Oct 13, 2010, 06:15 AM	#7
LesserHellspawn HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 0	AW: whats with the missing flat panel scaling Well, it used to run flawlessly under Windows XP. Personally I find black borders on the screen less irritating than seeing part of the desktop behind the game. I really wonder what's so different in Windows 7 that makes it so difficult to fix that function.

May 18, 2011, 07:44 AM	#9
LesserHellspawn HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 68 Rep Power: 0	AW: whats with the missing flat panel scaling It's fixed ! Nvidia reworked the scaling option in the 275 series driver from the ground up. 3 scaling modes, option to set scaling to display or GPU. GPU stting works flawlessly. Finally I can play games that do not support widescreen in their correct aspect ratio again.