physx installation failed??

nicnik · Dec 17, 2010, 12:19 PM

HI,

Never had this before.
Removed my gtx 260 last night to install a 6970 AMD. uninstalled all nvidia, rebooted, safe mode, driverclean and sweeped, shutdown. put in 6970.

Decided not to want the 6970 (noise issues, wont go into that), uninstalled, removed card. cleaned as before. put back the gtx 260 and when I install the WHQL 260.99 it all installed fine, except at the end it says Nvidia Physx Failed.

Rebooted and the control panel does have a panel for physx and i can change the values.

Checked c/programs(86)/nvidia and there's no physx folder any longer.

Downloaded the standalone latest physx package and tried installing it and it just says newest version is already installed no need to install.

Any subsequent uninstall/driverclean/reinstall of drivers end the same. any ideas as to what I can do? or is physx actually installed? afaik i've had 260.99 installed prior to installing the 6970 and it's always had installed fine and had an entry in "add and remove programs", not there anymore though.

blibbax · Dec 17, 2010, 02:06 PM

It might be detecting the presence of an AMD driver on your system. I'd contact Nvidia about this personally, but someone here might offer better assistance.

IvanV · Dec 17, 2010, 02:50 PM

I checked my system and PhysX wasn't under Program Files(x86)\Nvidia, it was under Program Files(x86)\AGEIA so check there (it was a surprise for me as well, I thought they would have changed that). The best way to make sure PhysX is really there is to try a game or a tech demo that requires it. If it works, leave it at that for the time being, installing a newer driver, when it comes out, will probably sort things out.

Judas · Dec 17, 2010, 03:59 PM

physx won't detect an amd driver and not install... physx is a computational add-on the is REQUIRED by hundreds of games..... it's just that with amd.... it doesn't use hardware gpu acceleration and with nvidia it does....

i'm betting it failed to install due to already being installed...

nicnik · Dec 17, 2010, 06:51 PM

but how can it be already installed when (since I remember) physx was always in the panel of programs I can uninstall?

I can't find any Physx folder or Ageia folder anywhere. Don't forget I've reinstalled these Nvidia drivers with driver sweep/cleaner selecting physx and nvidia drivers on every occasion.

I'll try and find something that will only run with physx installed...

Judas · Dec 17, 2010, 07:30 PM

UT3 requires physx to be installed.... i know personally if you remove it.... UT3 has a fit when trying to load...

even the demo..

that's about the only one i'm fully aware of..

but check your nvidia control panel.... it should be in there.. i think the latest version was removed from the normal installation place and moved directly into the nvidia control panel.

nicnik · Dec 17, 2010, 07:52 PM

okay, jus did a few things. but something seems to have fixed it.

Uninstalled the drivers, safemode cleaned. rebooted.

Removed the ATI External Service (was on the list but not running) - likely not related.

Installed Physx older standalone 0513 i recall. reboot. install 260.99 click clean install driver and physx. it uninstalled physx 0513 and installed 0514 fine. install did not fail.

all physx files are now in C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX

However, going into the service.system drivers

I see a 3 drivers that are named after AMD or Advanced Micro Devices.
AMDSATA
AMDXATA
AMDSBS

I assume these should be there?

just looking into my registry and searching "AMD" yeilds allot of results also. I did driver clean/sweep amd though many times.

nicnik · Dec 17, 2010, 07:54 PM

I tried
Set Devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
both AMD 6970s were still on the list under display. uninstalled them.

(This was before the above stuff, tried installing nvidia drivers rigth after reboot and still failed on physx).

iPlayer · Dec 17, 2010, 11:06 PM

Might be easier to use a restore point, if you have a viable one.

nicnik · Dec 18, 2010, 01:08 AM

do have system restore on but had no restore points oddly enough =/

**synthesis204** · Dec 23, 2010, 04:39 AM

I've always had to manually generate restore points. Do it once a month / right before any big hardware changes to the compy.

Glad to see it's working again. I know Just Cause 2 can also have issues w/o PhysX using an NV card, but it looks like you've got it

Dec 17, 2010, 12:19 PM	#1
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	physx installation failed?? HI, Never had this before. Removed my gtx 260 last night to install a 6970 AMD. uninstalled all nvidia, rebooted, safe mode, driverclean and sweeped, shutdown. put in 6970. Decided not to want the 6970 (noise issues, wont go into that), uninstalled, removed card. cleaned as before. put back the gtx 260 and when I install the WHQL 260.99 it all installed fine, except at the end it says Nvidia Physx Failed. Rebooted and the control panel does have a panel for physx and i can change the values. Checked c/programs(86)/nvidia and there's no physx folder any longer. Downloaded the standalone latest physx package and tried installing it and it just says newest version is already installed no need to install. Any subsequent uninstall/driverclean/reinstall of drivers end the same. any ideas as to what I can do? or is physx actually installed? afaik i've had 260.99 installed prior to installing the 6970 and it's always had installed fine and had an entry in "add and remove programs", not there anymore though. __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

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IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,921 Rep Power: 336 System Specs	Re: physx installation failed?? I checked my system and PhysX wasn't under Program Files(x86)\Nvidia, it was under Program Files(x86)\AGEIA so check there (it was a surprise for me as well, I thought they would have changed that). The best way to make sure PhysX is really there is to try a game or a tech demo that requires it. If it works, leave it at that for the time being, installing a newer driver, when it comes out, will probably sort things out. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever). Last edited by IvanV; Dec 17, 2010 at 03:31 PM.

Dec 17, 2010, 06:51 PM	Thread Starter #5
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: physx installation failed?? but how can it be already installed when (since I remember) physx was always in the panel of programs I can uninstall? I can't find any Physx folder or Ageia folder anywhere. Don't forget I've reinstalled these Nvidia drivers with driver sweep/cleaner selecting physx and nvidia drivers on every occasion. I'll try and find something that will only run with physx installed... __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

Dec 17, 2010, 07:52 PM	Thread Starter #7
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: physx installation failed?? okay, jus did a few things. but something seems to have fixed it. Uninstalled the drivers, safemode cleaned. rebooted. Removed the ATI External Service (was on the list but not running) - likely not related. Installed Physx older standalone 0513 i recall. reboot. install 260.99 click clean install driver and physx. it uninstalled physx 0513 and installed 0514 fine. install did not fail. all physx files are now in C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX However, going into the service.system drivers I see a 3 drivers that are named after AMD or Advanced Micro Devices. AMDSATA AMDXATA AMDSBS I assume these should be there? just looking into my registry and searching "AMD" yeilds allot of results also. I did driver clean/sweep amd though many times. __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

Dec 17, 2010, 07:54 PM	Thread Starter #8
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: physx installation failed?? I tried Set Devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 both AMD 6970s were still on the list under display. uninstalled them. (This was before the above stuff, tried installing nvidia drivers rigth after reboot and still failed on physx). __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

Dec 17, 2010, 11:06 PM	#9
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Dec 18, 2010, 01:08 AM	Thread Starter #10
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: physx installation failed?? do have system restore on but had no restore points oddly enough =/ __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV Last edited by nicnik; Dec 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM.

Dec 23, 2010, 04:39 AM	#11
synthesis204 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,177 Rep Power: 99 System Specs	Re: physx installation failed?? I've always had to manually generate restore points. Do it once a month / right before any big hardware changes to the compy. Glad to see it's working again. I know Just Cause 2 can also have issues w/o PhysX using an NV card, but it looks like you've got it