Who has probs (BSOD's) with Vista and 7.3

*CATALYST maker* · Apr 2, 2007, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcs49

Vista Home Premium 32-bit

Hey can you tell me what USB devices you have plugged in?

cabab · Apr 2, 2007, 07:25 PM

I also encounter the BSOD after installing 7.3. I am using a Dell 5150 with a pentium 4 3.0 an 3gb memory.

I have the following usb devices installed:
Sweex 54Mbps usb wireless lan
Standard Dell keyboard and mouse(bet I am the only one here

)
The philips MCE remote control(2005 version)
Trust wireless MCE keyboard
My Book 500GB external HD

well that's it. Hope it contributes to the solution

JohnY2 · Apr 2, 2007, 08:08 PM

I have been testing the Catalyst drivers on a couple of older Via chipset boards (AK38n Shuttle KT333ce 1.5GB Fic A97p AGP 9700pro, and CUV4X-DLS Asus Apollo Pro694X A97p 9700pro AGP 1.0 GB) The only driver(s) that don't BSOD with a Stop 0x00000116 in atikmdiag are the drivers shipped with Vista Ultimate RTM and RC2. Sometimes the 831 package works. 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 mostly BSOD (occassionally I've had them working but with no consistancy.)

On the CUV4X-DLS w/ 2x1G PIII's I get a Experience Index of 1.0 (?) and a 2.9 on the KT333ce with an Athlon XP+ 2.0G but only the original shipping Vista drivers work.

JohnY2

I have tried with and without CCC and with and without ATI External Event Service disabled with no change in behavior.

theonlybabyface · Apr 2, 2007, 08:14 PM

Funny. This thread is longer than the official cat 7.3 thread. I think that there's something wrong.

Judas · Apr 2, 2007, 08:23 PM

http://files.filefront.com/AtiExtern.../fileinfo.html

Bat file with directions

Catalyst maker, could you verify that the bat contents are correct and the directions are sound?

theonlybabyface · Apr 2, 2007, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

http://files.filefront.com/AtiExtern.../fileinfo.html

Bat file with directions

Catalyst maker, could you verify that the bat contents are correct and the directions are sound?

It's correct...

Judas · Apr 2, 2007, 08:47 PM

Well then, anyone not sure how to create the BAT file or what to do, click the link i posted, read the instructions, and temporarly fix your BSOD.

The only problem is,

Trying to get back into windows to actually do what i posted...

theonlybabyface · Apr 2, 2007, 08:58 PM

Unfortunately, the only true fix is to replace the Cat 7.3's with the 7.2's or for ATI to replace the 7.3's with a new hotfix.

Judas · Apr 2, 2007, 09:01 PM

that's true.. but those that may benifit from the 7.3 fixes.. (such as myself) this is so far the only REAL Alternative that i can, and anyone else can, really benifit from.

Kizo · Apr 2, 2007, 09:51 PM

Hi, just registered to try to help on this topic. I've had Cats 7.3 since day 1, and so far, I haven't had a single BSOD, or any problem for that matter.

I have Vista Enterprise 32-bit, and my configuration is:

AsROCK 939Dual-SATA2 (ULi M1695/M1567)
AMD Athlon64 3200+ @ 2.5GHZ
2x512 Kingmax SuperRAM
Connect3D Radeon 9600XT

I have Samsung SyncMaster connected on DVI, and i have PQI USB connected for ReadyBoost. I'm an IT student, so I extensively use programs such as Visual Studio 2005, Maya, 3DS Max etc. No problem with any game I've played also.
I hope I've been of help, at least a little bit.
Cheers.

EDIT: Catalyst A.I. is set to Advanced in my case.

JohnY2 · Apr 2, 2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizo

Hi, just registered to try to help on this topic. I've had Cats 7.3 since day 1, and so far, I haven't had a single BSOD, or any problem for that matter.

I have Vista Enterprise 32-bit, and my configuration is:

AsROCK 939Dual-SATA2 (ULi M1695/M1567)
AMD Athlon64 3200+ @ 2.5GHZ
2x512 Kingmax SuperRAM
Connect3D Radeon 9600XT

I have Samsung SyncMaster connected on DVI, and i have PQI USB connected for ReadyBoost. I'm an IT student, so I extensively use programs such as Visual Studio 2005, Maya, 3DS Max etc. No problem with any game I've played also.
I hope I've been of help, at least a little bit.
Cheers.

I have an AsRock 939Dual-SATA2 here too, and it's one machine that I haven't tried Vista on. My Via Chipset machines so far only work with the shipping Vista driver, and BSOD with any other version.

Thanks for the info,

JohnY2

Judas · Apr 2, 2007, 10:37 PM

Anyone with BSODing have wireless Keyboard/Mice, or other wireless receivers or transmitters close by? Have you tried disconnecting/disabling these things.

Warpy · Apr 2, 2007, 11:21 PM

I know my problem has been XP 32bit and Zardon has asked that I include my problem within this thread, so anything I type here is directly related to XP 32bit not Vista.

My BSOD issues disappear when Catalyst A.I is disabled, when it's enabled the problems start tumbling out the sky - I can confirm this on two PC's. Maybe the Vista issue is different to this - has anyone tried it disabling Catalyst A.I?

Judas · Apr 2, 2007, 11:31 PM

Warpy, i'll give that a shot

MidnightWatcher · Apr 3, 2007, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

Hey can you tell me what USB devices you have plugged in?

I have a 2.0GB USB stick for ReadyBoost and the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on drive.

keeler · Apr 3, 2007, 03:28 AM

Just a thought folks....
Go to C:>Windows>Downloaded Program Files and see if you've got any "corrupted" installs. I saw that my Java install was hosed and when I went to the control panel to check it out, it threw me into "basic mode". Do we maybe all have java installed?

I've already rolled back to 7.2's, but would one of you brave souls on that still has 7.3 have a look-see?

Judas · Apr 3, 2007, 04:43 AM

i don't have java installed

JT2046 · Apr 3, 2007, 05:42 AM

The ATIStart batch file behaves funny. System error 5 occurs and access is denied. But the CCC can load successfully. What's the catch?

fdisker · Apr 3, 2007, 05:59 AM

The BSOD problem has nothing to do with java or any other third party software. I can reproduce the problem after a clean install of Vista and no other updates to the system other than Cats 7.3.

Intelman · Apr 3, 2007, 06:06 AM

I've been getting a [COLOR=#0066cc]0x000000EA[/COLOR] stop errors now. Windows tells me it is caused by the video driver.

dcs49 · Apr 3, 2007, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

Hey can you tell me what USB devices you have plugged in?

MS Keyboard with Fingerprint Reader (wired)
MS Intellimouse Explorer 2 (wireless)
HP Ipaq hx4700
HP Deskjet 990cxi
HP Scanjet 4850
Dymo Labelwrter 400
HP Remote Control Receiver (for Media Centre)

All via Belkin powered USB hub

junka · Apr 3, 2007, 09:08 AM

Havent they fixed this itsy bitsy problem yet? Not very good are they, me Gran could do better.

ombas · Apr 3, 2007, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intelman

I've been getting a [COLOR=#0066cc]0x000000EA[/COLOR] stop errors now. Windows tells me it is caused by the video driver.

exact same message for me - if i'm lucky.
in opengl game (cod:uo), i get it after 10- 20 min of play, with sometimes a black screen.

ultimate 64, x1900xt, opt 170, 2gbs ram, asrock mobo, seagate/wd hd's, nec as900 monitor (1600x1200 res), no ccc (unchecked in msconfig prior to reboot during driver install)

Schmegg · Apr 3, 2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

Anyone with BSODing have wireless Keyboard/Mice, or other wireless receivers or transmitters close by? Have you tried disconnecting/disabling these things.

OK. I have a DIRECT correlation between the eHome Infrared Reciever, Cat7.3 and the dreaded BSOD.

If I disable the eHome Reciever and the corresponding Consumer IR Devices entries in Device Manager the I have 100% reboot reliability with Cat7.3.

If I enable the Reciever & Consumer IR then I have a 100% BSOD problem on reboot.

I'll do some more debugging here over the next few days and post any usefull/interesting findings.

cuke2u · Apr 3, 2007, 01:19 PM

Hi, I also have a Logitech 510 wireless mouse/keyboard setup, however I am not will to test out any 'fixes' until I have had an official response from ATI. I am rather suprised this hasn't been done, my ticket is still outstanding and I've had no response since the 29/3.
ChrisC

keeler · Apr 3, 2007, 02:12 PM

Good point fdisker! Just lookin for that comman thread. I've got nothing wireless hooked up to the pc.. Just 5.8 Ghrz wireless phone and my cell phone charging, both bout 2 ft away.

Rick

Roadrunner7 · Apr 3, 2007, 03:38 PM

I got the same problem with the BSOD.

I have:
Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit
Asus P5B Premium Vista Edition
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Geil 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC6400 800MHz Ultra 4-4-4-12
500 GB Samsung SATA HDD
Sapphire Radeon x1650 Pro
Sony KDL-40W2000 (1080p via DVI->HDMI)
Connected to USB: Microsoft Wireless Entertainment Desktop 7000 (Bluetooth), Asus ScreenDUO, Logitech QuickCam Ultra Vision Webcam
The integrated ReadyBoost (Asus ASAP) on the motherboard is also activated (which is connected internally to the USB bus)

Another issue I have, with the 7.2 drivers, is that if I switch the TV to another channel, and then back to the computer, the screen remains black. I get the picture back when I make a resolution change or the screensaver turns off the display and then back on. Or I can pull out the cable between the TV and the HTPC and then put it back in.
Is there a way to make the display adapter not stop sending signals even if it thinks that there is no display at the other end of the cable (which it obviously does not correctly know all the time)?

MidnightWatcher · Apr 3, 2007, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmegg

OK. I have a DIRECT correlation between the eHome Infrared Reciever, Cat7.3 and the dreaded BSOD.

If I disable the eHome Reciever and the corresponding Consumer IR Devices entries in Device Manager the I have 100% reboot reliability with Cat7.3.

If I enable the Reciever & Consumer IR then I have a 100% BSOD problem on reboot.

I'll do some more debugging here over the next few days and post any usefull/interesting findings.

I have an eHome Receive plugged in as well.

Judas · Apr 3, 2007, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT2046

The ATIStart batch file behaves funny. System error 5 occurs and access is denied. But the CCC can load successfully. What's the catch?

i'm not sure what that is... Are you an administrator (logged in as) and the bat file has been placed in the Root Start menu and not a USER start menu startup.

drummerh · Apr 3, 2007, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpy

dcs49 and drummerh are you on Vista or XP 32bit? There is a thread also at Guru3d about XP SP2 doing the same thing.

32 bit. I've also just read the post about the ehome ir receiver - i also have one plugged in.

Apr 2, 2007, 08:08 PM	#153
JohnY2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	I have been testing the Catalyst drivers on a couple of older Via chipset boards (AK38n Shuttle KT333ce 1.5GB Fic A97p AGP 9700pro, and CUV4X-DLS Asus Apollo Pro694X A97p 9700pro AGP 1.0 GB) The only driver(s) that don't BSOD with a Stop 0x00000116 in atikmdiag are the drivers shipped with Vista Ultimate RTM and RC2. Sometimes the 831 package works. 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 mostly BSOD (occassionally I've had them working but with no consistancy.) On the CUV4X-DLS w/ 2x1G PIII's I get a Experience Index of 1.0 (?) and a 2.9 on the KT333ce with an Athlon XP+ 2.0G but only the original shipping Vista drivers work. JohnY2 I have tried with and without CCC and with and without ATI External Event Service disabled with no change in behavior. Last edited by JohnY2; Apr 2, 2007 at 08:13 PM. Reason: Additional Info

Apr 2, 2007, 08:14 PM	#154
theonlybabyface GO CANUCKS GO!!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 129 Rep Power: 0	Funny. This thread is longer than the official cat 7.3 thread. I think that there's something wrong. __________________ [COLOR=Silver]MY MACHINE : Intel Q6600 \| ASUS Maximus Formula \| 4 x 1GB Team Xtreem DDR2-800 \| EVGA 8800GTS "G92" \| X-Fi Platinum \| Enermax Infiniti 720 \| Samsung 224BW KIDS MACHINE : Intel Xeon 3060 \| Intel BadaXe2 \| 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2-667 \| BFG 8800GT OC \| Audigy 2 ZS \| OCZ GameXStream 850 \| [/COLOR][COLOR=Silver]Samsung 204B[/COLOR] [COLOR=dimgray][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=dimgray][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Apr 2, 2007, 08:58 PM	#158
theonlybabyface GO CANUCKS GO!!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 129 Rep Power: 0	Unfortunately, the only true fix is to replace the Cat 7.3's with the 7.2's or for ATI to replace the 7.3's with a new hotfix. __________________ [COLOR=Silver]MY MACHINE : Intel Q6600 \| ASUS Maximus Formula \| 4 x 1GB Team Xtreem DDR2-800 \| EVGA 8800GTS "G92" \| X-Fi Platinum \| Enermax Infiniti 720 \| Samsung 224BW KIDS MACHINE : Intel Xeon 3060 \| Intel BadaXe2 \| 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2-667 \| BFG 8800GT OC \| Audigy 2 ZS \| OCZ GameXStream 850 \| [/COLOR][COLOR=Silver]Samsung 204B[/COLOR] [COLOR=dimgray][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=dimgray][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Apr 2, 2007, 09:51 PM	#160
Kizo HHs Valve fanatic/C++ dev Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Hi, just registered to try to help on this topic. I've had Cats 7.3 since day 1, and so far, I haven't had a single BSOD, or any problem for that matter. I have Vista Enterprise 32-bit, and my configuration is: AsROCK 939Dual-SATA2 (ULi M1695/M1567) AMD Athlon64 3200+ @ 2.5GHZ 2x512 Kingmax SuperRAM Connect3D Radeon 9600XT I have Samsung SyncMaster connected on DVI, and i have PQI USB connected for ReadyBoost. I'm an IT student, so I extensively use programs such as Visual Studio 2005, Maya, 3DS Max etc. No problem with any game I've played also. I hope I've been of help, at least a little bit. Cheers. EDIT: Catalyst A.I. is set to Advanced in my case. Last edited by Kizo; Apr 2, 2007 at 11:29 PM.

Apr 3, 2007, 09:08 AM	#172
junka Zex Machine Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 199 Rep Power: 0	Havent they fixed this itsy bitsy problem yet? Not very good are they, me Gran could do better. __________________

Apr 2, 2007, 07:25 PM	#152
cabab DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I also encounter the BSOD after installing 7.3. I am using a Dell 5150 with a pentium 4 3.0 an 3gb memory. I have the following usb devices installed: Sweex 54Mbps usb wireless lan Standard Dell keyboard and mouse(bet I am the only one here ) The philips MCE remote control(2005 version) Trust wireless MCE keyboard My Book 500GB external HD well that's it. Hope it contributes to the solution

Apr 2, 2007, 11:21 PM	#163
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	I know my problem has been XP 32bit and Zardon has asked that I include my problem within this thread, so anything I type here is directly related to XP 32bit not Vista. My BSOD issues disappear when Catalyst A.I is disabled, when it's enabled the problems start tumbling out the sky - I can confirm this on two PC's. Maybe the Vista issue is different to this - has anyone tried it disabling Catalyst A.I?

Apr 3, 2007, 03:28 AM	Thread Starter #166
keeler DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Just a thought folks.... Go to C:>Windows>Downloaded Program Files and see if you've got any "corrupted" installs. I saw that my Java install was hosed and when I went to the control panel to check it out, it threw me into "basic mode". Do we maybe all have java installed? I've already rolled back to 7.2's, but would one of you brave souls on that still has 7.3 have a look-see?

Apr 3, 2007, 05:42 AM	#168
JT2046 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	The ATIStart batch file behaves funny. System error 5 occurs and access is denied. But the CCC can load successfully. What's the catch?

Apr 3, 2007, 05:59 AM	#169
fdisker DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United State - Ohio Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	The BSOD problem has nothing to do with java or any other third party software. I can reproduce the problem after a clean install of Vista and no other updates to the system other than Cats 7.3.

Apr 3, 2007, 06:06 AM	#170
Intelman DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I've been getting a [COLOR=#0066cc]0x000000EA[/COLOR] stop errors now. Windows tells me it is caused by the video driver.

Apr 3, 2007, 01:19 PM	#175
cuke2u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 75 Rep Power: 0	Hi, I also have a Logitech 510 wireless mouse/keyboard setup, however I am not will to test out any 'fixes' until I have had an official response from ATI. I am rather suprised this hasn't been done, my ticket is still outstanding and I've had no response since the 29/3. ChrisC __________________ Asus P5B Premuim Vista Edition Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 Crucial Anniversary (2x1gb) 2x Samsung 3200g ATI X1900XT-X

Apr 3, 2007, 02:12 PM	Thread Starter #176
keeler DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Good point fdisker! Just lookin for that comman thread. I've got nothing wireless hooked up to the pc.. Just 5.8 Ghrz wireless phone and my cell phone charging, both bout 2 ft away. Rick

Apr 3, 2007, 03:38 PM	#177
Roadrunner7 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I got the same problem with the BSOD. I have: Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit Asus P5B Premium Vista Edition Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Geil 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC6400 800MHz Ultra 4-4-4-12 500 GB Samsung SATA HDD Sapphire Radeon x1650 Pro Sony KDL-40W2000 (1080p via DVI->HDMI) Connected to USB: Microsoft Wireless Entertainment Desktop 7000 (Bluetooth), Asus ScreenDUO, Logitech QuickCam Ultra Vision Webcam The integrated ReadyBoost (Asus ASAP) on the motherboard is also activated (which is connected internally to the USB bus) Another issue I have, with the 7.2 drivers, is that if I switch the TV to another channel, and then back to the computer, the screen remains black. I get the picture back when I make a resolution change or the screensaver turns off the display and then back on. Or I can pull out the cable between the TV and the HTPC and then put it back in. Is there a way to make the display adapter not stop sending signals even if it thinks that there is no display at the other end of the cable (which it obviously does not correctly know all the time)? Last edited by Roadrunner7; Apr 3, 2007 at 03:50 PM. Reason: More details