Vista and 7.3 Display driver atikmdag stopped responding error

PenrynHD

Hi, I've got this crash also on my F3Sa notebook. Can you give a link to this post on Sapphire forums? Please...

sparkies

i've got a f3sa too and the problem no longer appears after installing the latest mobility modded driver, so download vanilla ati catalyst, run the installer so that it just extracts the files but then cancel, install & run the mobility modder, disable uac, reboot, install the driver, enable uac, reboot, voila. alternatively you can find a patched version of the 8.12 driver ready to be installed on www.asustreiber.de. the exact link is http://www.asustreiber.de/downloads/folder/75-vga-ati, look for the 8.12 vista32bit MOD driver towards the bottom of the page..

PenrynHD

I'have drivers modded by Ati Mobility Modder and i've got crashses, these are
9.2 Catalysts. Can you tell me in points, if I would be a child. Because, i'm not High PC user. Should I reset computer after installation of Mobility Modder?

I have installed this devicies as follows.

1.I have downloaded them from Ati Official Website...
2.I have extracted them.
3.I have moded them my Ati Mobility Modder.
4.I have uninstalled older version of Devicies by Driver Sweeper, because when I wanted to uninstall them by Control Panel the BSOD was jumping with 0x0000000EA error code.
5.I have restarted my Laptop.
6.I have installed moded drivers.
7.And Again restarded my laptop.

Am I doing any mistakes?

BSOD's didnt go out.
Now I'have disabled Aero Shit from M$ and i'm waiting for result.

From this side which you give me, I want to download this version:
What do you think about it?
Did you tested drivers from this site?

rychas

Amazingly enough, I've been TDR free for almost 2 weeks. And I'm the guy who had the same display issues even on Ubuntu!

I recently had a discussion with a few guys on Asus forums, and they saw their problem solved by forcing the graphics card's clocks back to their original frequencies. Not more, not less, but to the same. The thing is: my laptop actually idles with the memory frequency at 227 and 300 Mhz. My default timings are 500 and 400 Mhz.

So I started using AMDGPUClock Tool to reset my clocks back to 500 and 400 every time I turn on the laptop. It may just be luck, but I haven't experienced a single TDR since I started doing this.

PenrynHD

What Catalysts do you use? I want to overclock this but I can't when I place this clocks and I click Set Clocks in AMD GPU Tool, it reset clocks to old values - 219.37/252.00

When I runed Counter Strike Source, I have seen that my clocks are 500/396. I have paused the game and returned for a moment to the Windows and Values in Everest Ultimate Edition drop down to 219.37/252.00.

What should I do?

I've got CATALYSTS 9.2.

I have turned off aero and it looks to be no errors.
Is another way to solve this problem?

I'm waiting for suggestions from you

Please help me

Bless you

rychas

Hmm that's odd. When you click the Restore Settings button, it should fix both your clocks to it's original values. Which card do you have?

I'm also running 9.2, altough they are modified to work with laptops. But that shouldn't make any difference. You can always try the original ATI Tool 0.27 (which works on Vista) to try to reset your clocks.

Unfortunately I'm out of ideas. If I ever have another TDR, I'm gonna send this laptop back to ASUS so they can deal with it, I've had my share of problems for the last few months. So far, this solution (?) is the only one giving me some kind of results.

PenrynHD

If I write some values and click Restore Settings button the values are 219.37/252.00.

What should I do?

I've got Ati Mobility Radeon HD2600

GPUz shows me this:


I have tried Ati Tool too and no result.

machinamax

This problem is a real headache for me. I didn’t know that so many people have troubles with new machines. Let me describe my.
I have a new computer with 4850 in it, but my problems are a little different, with same result.
I'm running on Vista x64 SP1 now, everything works perfect in my PC except games. When I play on 1920*1080 res, the game is running about 3 minutes and then the blank screen appears for a few times and then it freezes. I don’t see a note about driver responding in windows. If I'm fast and hit alt+TAB to switch to windows and then back, the game is running another 3 minutes. If I play in lower res 1280*800, black screen appears only sometimes. And in 800*600 I could play for hours and hours without problem. I was running on XP 32 SP3 before, but problem was exactly the same and switch to vista 64 did nothing with it. My graphic card temps never reached 60 degrees, CPU is in about 40 and system 40 degrees too, I tried to change fan speed to 80%, but without a good result. I tried msconfig fix, registry TDR fix, install DNA drivers, install ATI drivers without CCC, switch card to another PCI-e slot, windows game booster, overclock card, underclock card, combine positions memory modules, set vertical sync on, set lower frequency on system RAM, reinstall system couple of times, updated mainboard bios to a newest version, but everything with the same result and without change. Games crashed in hi res in about three minutes. It looks like when the higher settings are set, the bigger probability is that game will crash. It happens only in games. Movies, music, burning and all windows work is great. I’m not using dual monitor system. This is my second 4850 card, the first was stock Sapphire with changed heat-sink Zalman VF 1000 and with same problems with it. I don’t have any ideas how to fix it. Is there some official statement from manufacturers about it? What about to change bios in graphic card? Or try another memory modules? I’m going to try vista fix, which was mentioned few posts earler.


My specs are:
Gigabyte EP45-DS3R
Gainward 4850, 512 MB@stock values
Core2Duo E8500 3,16Ghz
Apacer 2*2GB 800MHz
Corsair HX520 Watt

PenrynHD

I have turned Aero off in Saturday...and seems to be fixed by this.

I think that some update is crashing this, because I hadn't this problem from May to August and from September to Today is. What do you think?

australis

MAchinamax I'm having the same problem with you. And our systems are similar. Never had a tdr on 2D but in 3D. I tried all the suggestions, underclocking, vista fix, msconfig fix, change and swap ram modules, test them w/ memtest for hours w/o errors.. etc. etc. nothing helped. I'm using a Powercolor 4850, and neither ATI's nor Powercolor's support helped me! All they do is blaming the hardware we are using. So we are still helpless here. And I guess this issue is more related to ATI than nVidia, 'cause none of my nvidia owner friends are having this problem except the ATI owners. Maybe a coincidence I don't know. What I know is I regret the day I bought this card. And this is not Vista related imho, 'cause I tried XP Pro SP2 and SP3 w/ the same results. (VPU recovery issues) MAybe next time we should give a chance to nVidia.

My specs:
Gigabyte EP45-DS3R
Powercolor 4850 PCS+ (underclocked @625/975, stock@665/993)
Intel C2quad Q6600@stock
Mushkin 2x2 1066Mhz
Seasonic S12+ 550W and using Vista Ultimate SP1 w/ updates.

machinamax

I'm loosing all my hope for this problem.
Maybe this is really hardware-heat problem. Maybe some component on mainboard is overheating from graphic card heat.

Maybe buying NVidia will be the only fix for this.

Guys, is somebody here, who got his problem, then switched to Nvidia and problem went out? Please, let us know.

OldBuzzard

Yes, there are. However, nVidia owners aren't immune to TDR issues either, and there are people that switched from nVidia to ATI which cured THEIR problem.

Do a Google search just using nvlddmkm.sys and take a look at what shows up.

Serious TDR issues happen to both ATI and nVidia owners, and to a wide range of cards for each side. It has to be a Vista problem. Not only that, but for me and others, it is also causing it in WINDOWS 7 beta.

You can see a discussion on that here:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-...ys-issues.html

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simland

I've found that turning up the fan speed on my card helps. The temp on my card never gets crazy, but I think it must be the vRam that is over heating and its temp is not being reported accurately by any tool that I can use. Then again that's pure conjecture as WoW is the only program that causes crashes for me. The other anomaly is that I can't run any AA greater than 2x or else I cause TDR issues. This is even from the ATI Overdrive tool. If I force AA to be greater than 2x, the simple preview window is enough to cause my card to TDR. I also get little sparkles on any level of AA.

Think I should protest and try to return my card? It's a 512 HD4870. I've been using it in this crappy condition since September, but Visiontek has a decent return policy. I'm so lazy I'll prolly put up with it for another few months and just buy an upgrade. Their support hours are not conveinent.

sparkies

just to make sure that we are looking at the same problem... in my case the problem only occured with a dual display and aero on.
solutions:
1. turn off aero.
2. only use one screen.
3. install 8.12 or 9.1 mobility modded.
either of the above worked.
i have never fiddled with clock frequencies, etc.

remember, it is possible that your hardware is indeed broken or bad memory or clock frequencies outside the specifications.

Arcynic

Just a note to the others here having a problem with the "atikmdag.sys" errors/BSODs:

I'm a Sys Admin with a fairly large company & we've discovered that several of our new laptops are having this identical problem. I was told to find a solution ASAP from the powers that be...
I've got a Microsoft Premier Support case open right now, and it has been moved on to their Escalation Engineers. They've also involved ATI internally. Along with that, I also opened a case with HP (our OEM), and they, too have escalated this to their engineers.
In the past 2 weeks I've been on the phone for hours with MS, HP, ATI, and even Intel. Seemed like slow going, but I found this message on Friday from the Probem Reports and Solutions within Vista:

[COLOR=#800080]http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prs.jpg[/COLOR]


I thought it was pretty encouraging, as it is the first time I've seen anyone actually acknowledge that there is a problem. I've seen The Problems Reports and Solutions window open on several occasions, and this is the first time I've seen the "This Problem is Being Researched" message. As soon as I find out more, I'll pass the information along...

Wish me luck.

Raduque

This is some very good news indeed!

Kinda sad that after all the individual reports filed with MS and ATI that it's taken a big company complaining to get something done.

machinamax

It's not Vista problem for me. It was same under XP SP2/SP3 profesional.
Is somebody here who downgraded from Vista to XP and problem went out?

OldBuzzard

Then you have some other hardware/software issue.

There is no such thing as a TDR in XP. The closest thing to a TDR in XP would be a VPU RECOVER.

If you check my system specs, you will see that I run multiple (right now I have 9) Operating Systems. I have 32 and 64 bit versions of XP and Vista, plus 2 installs of Windows 7 64 bit.

I have no problems with any of my XP installs. I only had TDR's in the Vista and WIndows 7 installs.

I'm one of the lucky ones that have found that the MSCONFIG/BOOT FIX cured them.

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grog

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machinamax

I watched Event Viewer and I found error message when system freezes.
It was event id 6008. Somebody knows what this means?

PenrynHD

I have tested my memory by MemTest86+ and no errors. Laptop is new.
I have turned on aero and installed this:
ASUSTreiber.de Download - ATi Catalyst Vista 32/64
And i'm waiting for result.
I have written to Asus and they reply to me and wrote that I should install this drivers, but on my F3Sa the can't install, when I unnistal another ATI drivers by Driver Sweeper or in another invencion they can't instal, this install only Catalyst Control Center...

http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/...sta_090217.zip

How it works in yours notebooks?

Timo_P

I've posted twice before in this thread thinking I had solved my atikmdag crashes, but both times the problem returned after a while. Now I'm happy to report that I finally found a solution that worked for me. Previously I tried every solution offered in this thread but nothing worked. Then I updated the bios for my MSI P45 NEO-F motherboard and that worked. If I remember correnctly, my original bios version was 1.1 and I updated it to 1.7. Now my computer has been running smoothly for a couple of months without any crashes.

BadMouth

Ok folks I did an experiment 2 days ago with the Nvidia 9600 GT to see if I can get a TDR with this
card.
Now mind you that this card is not factory over-clocked, using the Riva-Tuner utility I managed to
over-clock this card at 30% on the core clock and memory clock. This setting did cause an
“nvlddmkm.sys” stop responding error after a few hardcore gamming. Now even though I managed to get
this error, the funny thing was that if I lowered the memory down by 20% given a 10% increase speed
keeping the core speed at 30% NO errors occur, no matter what I did with this card.

If any of you have followed my posts in the last 9 months or so, you would know that I had an ATI HD
2600 XT card. This card was the one that got me so upset with TDR’s and as I stated previously in one
of my posts that this card could not be over-clocked nor under-clocked. I even went as far as to
changing the BIOS of the card to a much lower frequency, but only got a black screen.
Now from the above experiment with the Nvidia 9600 GT card, I come to a conclusion that if there was
a way I could of lower the core and memory clock on the ATI HD 2600 XT then I probably wouldn’t get
any or would of gotten less TDR issues back then. However, I through my ATI HD 2600 XT card out,
because I knew there was no way that this card could be internally changed, but that does not mean
that all ATI HD 2600 XT cards can’t be changed internally. I also believe that any graphic cards that
are over-clocked by factory default would cause more TDR errors than a card that is not over-clocked;
this is a good thing to keep in mind before you go and buy another card.

Therefore, if any of you have the ATI HD 2600 XT card, try to change the memory speed first before
changing the core speed if you can, this may well prevent or at least give you some relief on TDR
abundance.

machinamax: As for your question:
I watched Event Viewer and I found error message when system freezes.
It was event id 6008. Somebody knows what this means?

That has nothing to do with TDR, it just states your system was shutdown improperly.

B.M

sushisteve

First off hello driver heaven. 2nd off......TDR....ugh new computer a week ago today. Vista Home 64 i7 920, 3x2G Corsair DDR3 1600, Asus P6T mobo, Sapphire 4850 512mb, 1000w PSU. WoW ran smoothly on day 1 so did crysis, then followed day 2 with TDR on wow, crysis and flight sim x ran smoothly at this point still. Was crashing on wow only after a few hours day 2, day 3 crashes hit right away before login on menu soon as 3D graphics kicked in. Then it started happening across all games and 3D applications, even the catalyst 3d image would TDR crash me. So naturally I updated drivers, to no avail, updated driver with drive sweeper, no avail, started reading forums and finding out this problem, tried a few solutions: reinstallation of wow, repair tool for wow, underclocked (has never been overclocked) GPU, manually keyed in ram voltage on bios (since listed in asus manual and stickered on ram was different). Windows updates are turned off so I don't have the faulty one (forget number) and I did download the 3.5 frames and the other .net one. Driver updates over and over and over with drive cleaners. Registry cleaner, msconfig/boot fix (was not 100% sure on ram number I went off dxdiag number also i7 so I keyed in 8 for processors, correct? 4 physical 4 virtual.) UAC turned off. Wow seems to run the longest (maybe 2 minutes tops) first time I turn on the computer after being at work all day. It's not overheating, running idle at 32C and running under 100% stress at 45ish. I haven't noticed the fan speed move much from 32-35% though even under 100%, is this normal?! seems odd but I don't want to turn it on 100% all the time or I'll burn it out considered using another tool instead of catalyst to adjust fan speeds anyway, are there any other obvious fixes I'm missing? I've read through a good chunk of this post but not all of it, any help would be greatly appreciated, ask if you need more info I might have forgot to post something

OldBuzzard

For the MSCONFIG/BOOT fix, use the number of PHYSICAL processors.

In your case, 4. Memory for 6GB would be 6144. Not guaranteed to work, but worth trying it again.

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machinamax

To australis:

Hey bro, maybe I have a solution for you.
Yesterday a put a finger on heatsink on motherboard to check the temps and it was really hot. So I put a small fan on it and everything seems to work good. I did testing out games and 3dmark vantage and 3dmark06 on 1920*1050*32, 4AA with 3 times repeat. Before it would freeze after 3 minutes, but yesterday it worked for 30 minutes without any crash. The temps on card, cpu and system was a little higher but was stable like never before.
For everybody who got mobo Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, probably this could be a solution.
I will test it tomorrow and I will give you guys some more informations.

australis

Thank you for your advice machinamax Well I have a scythe zipang cpu cooler (14cm fan) blowing right onto the mobo's heatsink and cpu. Maybe adding an extra fan on the side of the case works. What is your gpu's idle temp by the way? Mine was 71C degrees before. So I increased fan speed to 40% and it's 57C@idle. I don't know if this is a heat problem. Some of my nvidia owner friends use their cards at around 70C idle but they have no tdr issues. But I'll try this anyway. Tried before but it was noisy so I removed the extra fan, and it didn't help at that time. (2 days)

machinamax

To australis:

I have 4850 Gainward with non-reference cooler and it's 42C at idle and from 50 to 70 at full load. I don't know what temps should be on your 4850 PCS+ model, but for 4850 your temps are ok. You just need to cool northbridge on your mobo. Try to put small fan right on it or put a bigger fan on side of your case. It should works perfectly.
Today I'm going to put two 40mm fans on northbridge and test it. Tomorrow I'll give you an update.
Good luck.

UPDATE 19.3.
I put two 40mm fans on northbridge, but cooling was not enough for the upper side of heatsink and result was freezed system. So I put one 80mm fan on side of the case like before and all pervious problems gone. I tested 3d mark vantage in 1920*1080*32 with 8xAA, 3dmark06 in same settings, test drive unlimited and far cry 2 on max settings and everything worked flawesly. I put sensor from case on northbridge to see the temps on front panel and it was 41C max.

Hopefully all problems are history. It was like a tumor in my head and now I feel completely healthy. I want to thank everybody on this forum for a lots of good advices.
I wish you to solve your problems. I'll stay active on thic topic.

Whats your update australis?

TheJakeOtt

So I've read through a bunch of these 50-some-odd pages about this problem, which I also experience regularly, that seems to plague so many people in so many situations...

This is what I've got:

Diamond Viper HD 3850 Ruby Ed 512 GDDR3 @ 710/875
AMD Phenom X4 9550 @ Stock
Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 (AMD770) bios rev F6
4GB OCZ Reaper DDR2 1066
Antec 3 rail 650W PSU (22A,22A,25A on 12V rails)

Everything I've seen indicates that all these components should line up nicely, but all I've been able to do is extend the amount of time that lapses before I experience the dreaded atikmdag error. I've modded and flashed the video bios, updated MB bios, tried multiple driver configs, added a fan to the NB, put a fan on the side of the machine directly above VGA card and NB, tried upping voltages, I've never seen a single temp in Everest that indicates inordinate heating...

All of these only delayed the inevitable for me.

I hate this. It interferes with each of my days. I'm going to burn the building down.

:Edit:
So, I've said 'to hell' with getting performance out of this card that was guaranteedby the manufacturer and reverted back to RV670 standards. I've also determined that Diamond Multimedia is a bunch of effwads who sell a pre-overclocked card without equipping it with the cooling/board space needed to facilitate said pre-overclocking. I've inched the card freq. back to 670/875, subsequently inching back to stability. Go figure.
I want to scream obscenities.

So, in QBasic:
IF "Diamond Viper HD3850 Ruby Edition 512 GDDR3" THEN GOTO :hell

lol

australis

At least someone out there got rid of his problem! I'm happy for you
As for my update, yes I installed a 12cm fan on the side of the case directly blowing onto the radeon and northbridge. Temps decreased but it didn't help getting rid of tdrs. so "all quiet on the western front" :P