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ATI Catalyst™ Control Center Updates


ATI Video encoder update – support for Windows 7

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SeraphicSorcerer

I don't think I'm a fan of the NEW CCC, It is the exact same layout really, only now, I have to select from a menu instead of having the Side menu there to choose quickly.

I like the layouts, I want the side menu back.

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Veridian3

HI all, I added a poll to this thread last night so remember to vote on your opinions of the new CCC layout.

AMD are watching, so let them know your thoughts by voting and feel free to give them more detailed feedback in this thread too...

Veridian3

Wise words indeed! Couldnt agree more.

OldBuzzard

"I do not like the new navigation/layout" is not quite strong enough.

It is an abomination!

My first thought was that they should immediately fire the person that designed it.

Then I decided that immediate firing wasn't enough...they should first beat him severely, and then fire him.

However, I've decided that they shouldn't fire him at all...they should take him out behind ATI HQ, and SHOOT the sorry SOB!

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Mac Daddy

I just DLed the 64 bit version of the Win7 and Vista driver will test them out and vote with feedback on the poll after work

(Same driver BTW)

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longhorn1000

WTH were they thinking? CCC was easy and quick to use, you could see all the options in the left menu and go to wherever you want.

Now everything needs more navigation and its far more complex.

Also, it looks quite lazy. Look at the overdrive screen. Rather than redesign it they have just centred the old options/graphics and now there is loads of dead/grey space!

BlueMak

I like that it is the first CCC that works again after 9.4 for my PC.
I can't speak about the actual driver since I just finished installing it.
About the redesigned CCC, I think the major issue is not that it was redesigned but that it was a half arsed attempt. I don't mind remove the tree on the left, but it feels more like a change for the sake of change. If they would either add a few more options or also designing (strictly visual wise) something beautiful for it, then it would be much better. Now it feels like a lazy change just to remove the tree and replace it with the drop down menu.
It makes no change to me and I am fine with either view (tree or menu), but I can see how some people will not like the change as it is.


Since ATI people will read this thread, PLEASE have a VERY CLEAR option to either change or show if crossfire (in the X2 cards) is enabled or disabled. As it is with just the A.I. option it just doesn't help.

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mkk

If the intent was to have people doing less fiddling with the settings then it's a success. More seriously I could come up with one mitigating factor behind the new design and that would be if there's some other AMD/ATI utility in existance or coming up that uses the same basic layout. Otherwise it's as mentioned very much a change for changes sake and not any kind of practical improvement. Perhaps there's a new interface design crew at work and if so then I could be fine with some ups and downs on the road to something better. If neiter of the above, someone could have stopped this before it got out.

For those who might just be curious what it's about: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/vista-ra...7-package.html

Alex

Great, new drivers and Windows going RTM in the same day. Cant wait to get the final 7600 version going on my AMD system!

As for the drivers, cant see any bugs yet on my desktop system. They seem to work well BUT that new Cat Centre is a real mess. How people in ATI thought this was an improvement I dont know.

Going to try them on my HTPC now, see how they are on that.

Alex

OK, i'm lost. At first it seemed fine on my HTPC and then i changed the resolution... not normally a problem but the scaling options needed reset.... and i can't find them!!!

If someone at ATI is reading, where are they? I've tried everything... properties (accessed through the triangle on desktops and displays) seems the best screen but there are only a couple of tabs in there. None of the other screens seem to have any button or option which will take me to where i need to be.

I'll live with it for a couple of hours but if i cant work it out then its back to 9.6 for me... black borders suck.

BlueMak

You are right, I can't find aspect scaling options anywhere...WTF?

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OldBuzzard

It's a STEAMING PILE OF DOG POO.

No doubt designed by 'committee", members of which, had their heads stuck up each other's collective arses.

The UI for CCC was very good, now...well, there are words to describe it, but they ones better suited for the FWZ, and not polite conversation.

Come on ATI, haven't you folks never heard of the phrase "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT"?

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RoyBatty

Alex, I was looking for it too and found it after a while: In the Desktop & Displays right-click on the display icon just above the "Basic..." button (or left-click on the black triangle) and select Configure.

mkk

Wow, that's like an easter egg.

Alex

Wow, thanks... how the heck are people meant to know that the tiny little triangle down there does something completely different to the main triangle further up?!

The small monitor thing doesnt evel look like it has a "function" other than if I had 2 displays connected i assume it would let me switch between the two by left clicking

Glad its working now but AAARRGGHHHH, what a mess.

BlueMak

LOL that's fantastic! HAHAHAHAHA It's like playing Myst all over again.

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OldBuzzard

So, ATI are monitoring this?

CatalystCatcher, or any other ATI type watching, if you would really like to make a lot of us happy, how about giving us folks with X2's and/or Crossfire the ability to see the activity and temp of both/all GPUs in the OVERDRIVE section?

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Zardon

CatalystCatcher no longer works for ATI/AMD (unfortunately), but yeah there are other people watching, hopefully the feedback is taken on board. Quite a bizarre set of circumstances.

kris23

i dont like it too much......... too many clicks to get to stuff.........

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SeraphicSorcerer

Exactly my problem with it, By making us click more, it's disgusting to use, As I originally stated I like the way they laid out the new features, it's a bit "easier" to read.

However, By taking away the side menu they made the navigation by itself absolutely horrible, The Top menu when you actually go to the "page" you want is horrible, It doesn't "stick out" Black on white in the side menu stuck out, the Tabs Do not.

Bring back the side menu if you're going to keep this. Or we'll be forced to revert back.

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SeraphicSorcerer

He wasn't fired was he? It's DAAMIT's fault isn't it? Mergers get the little guys screwed, and the Managers richer!

Or did he jump out of a Window while smuggling a prototype?

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Mac Daddy

Good catch Roy and about the only positive thing I could find with it

Unfortunate and I wasn't aware of that he was with ATI from the beginning.

On the new CCC I am sorry to say I don't like it. People who know me well knew I was a long time warming up to CCC initially as I preferred the CP. I miss the sidebar for navigation as mentioned by a few people and find it very hard to navigate which was also mentioned. Too many drop down menus which lead to basically the same pages that were in the old CCC.

Sorry folks but I made a negative vote on this one ...

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Dark Lord

i had to do a bit of googling to find screen shots of it (cant install it my self since my card hasnt been supported for the last 4 months) but god, that looks terrible. i want the old one back.

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[hobo]eclipse

any one else seeing a slightly transparent "rotate" pop up menu in desktops and displays? i agree with the earlier post regarding this being a stepping stone to a new CCC design. also still no GPU scaling for me with a hd3870 on win7 7229

Shaga

Haha, I was looking for that option as well. It was quite a game to find it.

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Erroneus

I don't hate it, it's fast and doesn't use many resources, but I got to agree that it needs some redesigning and one day I'm hoping they will make a better looking tray icon for it

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DJShamrock

Why don't they give us a choice between the old CCC and the new CCC. Like how we get a choice between basic and Advanced mode. When we install we can pick "Basic Mode - Advanced Mode - I would rather die in a fire than use this Mode."

I guess like anything you'll get used to the new CCC after awhile, but this CCC is just confusing. Especially finding LCD overdrive.

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Robert McClelland

I hope ATI watching this very sad on my Visiontek HD2600 512meg card lol way to big I just posted win 7 32bit on AGP Hot fix.
Imageshack - newcccwaytobig
Plus the Refreash rate bug is back it goes to 59Hz no matter what I do I have used ATI Tray Tools get keep on 60Hz lol

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swimtech

Admittedly I like the look of the interface - goes along with the clean design of a stock Win7 desktop, but also agree that since we're all so used to being able to see all settings available in the left pane of the old interface at once that usability suffers in comparison.

However, I'll hang out in left field here and say I really like the 3D setup area as an example, first entering then noting the tabs across the pane at the top of the window - more intuitive to me.

For folks that don't desire to tweak things often, I think it's a step forward. The busy older interface was handy, but the new one is more appealing visually and does get you all the same functionality, eventually...

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