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Old Aug 10, 2009, 01:26 PM   #1
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Horribly unnecessary frustration,

Yesterday, I decided to install Windows 7 beta just to try it out, after hours of trying to get Catalyst 9.1 - 9.7 to work with my Radeon HD 4670 card, I decided that Windows 7 needs some work and formatted back to Vista.
However, now, I'm having the exact same problem. I install Catalyst 9.x and the folder labeled "ATI Technologies" (In my C Drive) is empty, and nothing changes, I'm stuck with a Standard VGA Display Adapter, which by the way, has a warning sign next to it in Device Manager, but won't update, and claims to be up to date. So, now I'm going on day to of the redundant driver failure. Now, I'm sure MANY people have had this same problem, and I'm sure there's a fix, which is clearly why I'm here. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.


To further the issue, I notice that it's only installing one thing, though I tell it to do a full installation (Catalyst Installation Manager)

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Old Aug 10, 2009, 02:00 PM   #2
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

I am thinking it's not related to Window 7, or the drivers, IF you have a yellow ! then normally you've got something more going on, Have you tried

Reseating the card
Making sure the power cable to it is plugged in
Updating the driver manually (Via device manager)
Tryed the manufacturer's driver?
Who is your manufacturer anyhow maybe you should call their support line?

I have not enounctered many driver related issues with my 4870, as this is a 4670, I am not familiar with many issues related to them either, Just to make sure though, it did work before? And now stopped working or did you just get it?

Also, have you tried reinstalling via Safe mode?


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Old Aug 10, 2009, 02:13 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #3
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

When I had XP, it worked perfectly, minus DirectX 10 or 11, and I decided to try something new, so I got Windows 7, which is where it began going wrong. Power cable is plugged in, I just opened up my casing checked on the card, it's doing fine.

How would i go about resetting the card? Power color is the manufacturer, I didn't look into that, thanks that's a good idea. I'll do that.

As far as Device Manager, yes, I tried manually installing, no luck.

If PowerColor's driver doesn't work, I'll definitely try safemode. If not, I'm going back to XP. If it still gives me troubles, I have no idea. I will be very upset.
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have you got .net framework installed its usually required in order for CCC to install, would not hurt to check ..
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

Honestly, I'm not sure, thank you though, I'll look for that.

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Yes, I've installed .NET Framework 3.5 and still, no good.
When I launch the installer, all it does is install "Catalyst Install Manager"
Which is stupid, as that is what I'm using to install it. It's not installing CCC or anything. And the ATI Technologies folder is empty.

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Does not read detection driver in safe mode.

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Can you post some details of your system specs Use CPUZ and GPUZ so we can get a better picture of whats going on...
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,



In actuality, my video card is a Radeon HD 4670, but it won't display.

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I've formatted back to Windows 7, because frankly, it's doing the same thing, only I like it better. If this makes a difference, let me know and I'll update more things.

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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

Your card is an AGP card so ATI driver is no use for you. ATI made the 4600 series chipset but they don't sell the AGP version, so they don't support the AGP version in Catalyst driver. I heard the last AGP version ATI sold is 2000 & 3000 series. Your fate is on the hand of the OEM and most of them (99.9%) is suck in supporting driver. The original CD driver works in only XP and I'm not sure whether it will work in Vista.
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

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Your card is an AGP card so ATI driver is no use for you. ATI made the 4600 series chipset but they don't sell the AGP version, so they don't support the AGP version in Catalyst driver. I heard the last AGP version ATI sold is 2000 & 3000 series. Your fate is on the hand of the OEM and most of them (99.9%) is suck in supporting driver. The original CD driver works in only XP and I'm not sure whether it will work in Vista.
It doesn't work in Vista. So, basically, there's nothing I can do? It will NOT work in Windows 7 no matter what? Or is it possible drivers will be made for them in the future? As of now, I have no method of returning to XP.

Are there OEM drivers available for the 4600 Series for Windows 7?

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you're going to need drivers that support both the 4600 series and the AGP bus controller on the card and since its not an official ATi release, you're stuck.......

you can probably try to install JUST the drivers and no CCC panel and see what you get...

also, im going to move this to the Vista Radeon Display Drivers section as this thread is unrelated to laptops or mobility radeon



i saw some drivers on the HIS website that you probably can run on vista with this Powercolor card..... for some reason i cant find any drivers for the 4670 1GB AGP on the powercolor site....

HIS HD 4670 IceQ Native HDMI 1GB (128bit) DDR3 AGP < Download | HIS Graphic Cards

Install just the driver before you install anything else (as in no CCC or HIS suites) , just to limit potential problems from using another brand's driver

good luck man welcome to DH!
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

I can see why you're frustrated they don't even support their own card
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Maybe return it and get the HIS version?

Or it could be time for the pci xpress wagon
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Yup try what Kris23 said if that fails.... sorry
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

I am currently running on Windows 7 as it is far better than Vista as I've observed. Would the drivers you're mentioning work with Windows 7? As I'm not fully ready to reformat BACK to Vista once again.

And my motherboard is a D865GLC, it does not support PCIe. I would have loved to do that but that would cost me more money than what is available to me currently, with the motherboard switching, new video card, memory, and potential casing change. That could cost well over $500, and I'm not willing to do it, so PCIe is out of the question at the moment.

I'll give that a try Kris, and yeah Sorcerer, that's ridiculous, it's unfathomable. I may consider returning it, perhaps getting different brand all together, one that has valid drivers out for Windows 7. I don't know yet. If I could go back to XP I would at this point.

Thank you all for your help.

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It's giving me a rather harsh 6 hour download, with a whopping 3.7kb/s rate.
I suppose I'm asking quite a bit at this point for Windows 7 drivers to accommodate me in a next to lost cause. I'll reformat to Vista tomorrow, and how for the download to keep at a good kb/s rate.

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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

just so you know, it isnt very much to swap to a newer better system, just look at my sig!

for $500 youll get an incredibly powerful gaming machine thats not nearly as bottlenecked as what you have

you can shave at least another 100 or more just by getting lower components...
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just so you know, it isnt very much to swap to a newer better system, just look at my sig!

for $500 youll get an incredibly powerful gaming machine thats not nearly as bottlenecked as what you have

you can shave at least another 100 or more just by getting lower components...

Haha, well when I have the money available to me, I'd happy put aside $500 to make a new machine.
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

It's not only about the money. It's also about reinstalling of everything, OS, applications, firewall rules, and running the risk of incompatibility. I don't play game on PC and my 6800GT AGP still can do decent throughput with RF, Microwave, Electromagnetic simulation and 3D modelings with Athlon 64X2 3800 & 2GB of PC3200 of RAM.

BTW, I also notice that many of HD-4670 with different OEMs have problems of excessive interrupts and slowing down your computer. Some are due to conflict with the High Definition Audio. Some are caused by the Realtek audio. Some are caused by the USB bus and some no one know what caused it. It's maybe a decent hardware but I'm pretty sure a POS in term of driver support. As someone else have commented: Like a car with a good engine and a no good transmission.
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

Fixed. Kris' fix (HIS drivers) worked. Thank you so much Kris & everyone who contributed. I would NOT have figured this out without you guys, I am extremely thankful.
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excellent man, glad it worked.... vista feel any better for you now?
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

To be very frank...almost any system still running an AGP only mainboard really doesn't have enough processor power to run the high end AGP video cards any way.

The ONLY good reason to go to one of the later AGP cards is if you need/want DX 10.1 support. Other than that, it's reallya waste of money, which you could be putting towards an upgrade to a PCI-e system.
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Re: Horribly unnecessary frustration,

Honestly, Vista isn't very wonderful still. Many of the games I play and the things to go along with it do not work. And it has zero improvement from XP. So, I'm not impressed with Vista. It looks nice, at least.
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Go read the fallacy of reasoning. It can't harm and only helps.

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Honestly, Vista isn't very wonderful still. Many of the games I play and the things to go along with it do not work. And it has zero improvement from XP. So, I'm not impressed with Vista. It looks nice, at least.
well..... that hardware was never really meant to run vista im afraid.... sure you have a DX10 card but the CPU is rather old, and you dont have enough RAM to really see vista take off......

my recommendation would be to go back to XP anyway you can.... its the best OS for what you have.

to MadDog, i do not mind a debate but please do it in another thread where its more appropriate, what you are posting has no relevance to the now resolved topic of this thread.
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