[germanjulian]

very good read. make you cry and never want to upgrade to vista
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...vista_cost.txt

[shanok]

Originally Posted by germanjulian

very good read. make you cry and never want to upgrade to vista
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...vista_cost.txt

Yes and it's almost entirely inaccurate.

[temeteus82]

Originally Posted by shanok

Yes and it's almost entirely inaccurate.

explain how inaccurate it is??

[shanok]

Originally Posted by temeteus82

explain how inaccurate it is??

Everything dealing with the DRM info is bogus.

The only time that poller runs is when anything with Video based DRM content is being played.

That means that just running games or apps or the OS itself will not cause that behavior.

Also they try to make it sound like the OS locks everything down. The OS does not. All it does is provide support for the content protection. Whether or not the protection is enabled and how it's implemented is still up to the content provider.

MS has nothing to do with those decisions.

Just read that thing real carefully and you'll realize just how far off it is

[tastyweat]

Shanok's correct - the majority of that article is BS

[vistahelp]

The article will be accurate on its prediction that windows vista will be crawling Will malware. And the claim that vista will be secure, laughable.

[DarkFoss]

I think there is enough credible information in the sources listed in the article to be of great concern to everyone. Even if 1/3rd of it comes to pass the cost is too great. This has the potential to effect everyone worldwide .
I can see the time where anyone in the US not running Vista and it's eventual successor will have to buy their computer parts overseas, if it's legal to do so by that point.

If you think that everything inthat article is complete rubbish well all I can say is they said the same thing about George Orwell's 1984.. Yet today Chicago is making a push to have camera's installed on EVERY street corner in the city.. Heralding their "test" system as a success.
Super computers capable of tracking and decrypting all forms of electronic communication worldwide through geo-stationary satellites and listening posts maintained by the US and Great Britain. Search and seizures without warrents.
These are just a few examples of things that have come to pass where a mere 20-30 years ago would not only have been laughable but concidered unconstitutional and even be concidered as acts of treason against the people of the US and the Constitution that our legislators have sworn to uphold. Not to mention the International violations those same tactics create.
Yet today it's embraced by the majority who happily surrender their rights watching them erode almost daily... Smiling and waving their flags brainwashed into "thinking" thats it's perfectly acceptable.

[shanok]

Originally Posted by vistahelp

The article will be accurate on its prediction that windows vista will be crawling Will malware. And the claim that vista will be secure, laughable.

Oh really?

Please back that up.

Try getting malware past UAC, without accepting it on purpose.

UAC will not allow the automatic installs to happen as they did in the past. Now if malware gets on a system a user has only themselves to blame.

[The_Neon_Cowboy]

BTW: the link is dead so i can't really comment

[Zelig]

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

BTW: the link is dead so i can't really comment

Works fine for me over here, with a last updated date of 2 days ago. It actually redirects to this address:

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html

[BWX]

Hmm... interesting...
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37091

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...d-answers.aspx

But it gets funnier, Microsoft confirms just about every point in the Gutmann pieceand tries to spin it as good. It is one of the most amazing piece of PR weaselwork I have seen for years. Try this one on for size.

Will echo cancellation work less well for premium content?
We believe that Windows Vista provides applications with access to sufficient information to successfully build high quality echo cancellation functionality.

*BLINK* Less well?!?

What a piece of double plus ungood lawyer talk that is, eh? Let's parse that, the question is basically 'does MS break existing and necessary functionality not related to the DRM infection in order to harm the user by removing their rights on other functionality?'

oh.. and....

Look at the part about medical imaging. Microsoft says it won't degrade medical imaging. Or will it? "For example, if a user were viewing medical imagery concurrently with playback of video which required image constraint, only the commercial video would be constrained -- not the medical image or other things on the user's desktop."

All is peachy, right? No problem there right? Scroll down to the comment by Panderso:

Since when did you think that DRM would not apply to medical imaging. Speaking as a physician, we ALREADY have this problem. The medical image DICOM format has been split into various flavors by competing software vendors who do their best to make sure that you have to have THEIR viewer in order to see files saved in their version of the format.
Further competing hospitals are choosing not to install viewers that would allow MD's to look at films that were taken at their competition ( or perhaps their IT staff can't be bothered to install them -- either way the result is the same). This proprietary behavior is already hindering patient care.
Vista's enhanced DRM only aggravates this nonsense!!

[DarkFoss]

Meh, MS says it's good for you.... many are the mindless sheep that will blindly follow.

The funny thing is that hd dvd encryption has already been cracked and the source leaked onto the internet. Just google BackupHDDVD.

So who does it really screw up Pirates? lol nope just the everyday enduser.

[BWX]

Originally Posted by DarkFoss

So who does it really screw up Pirates? lol nope just the everyday enduser.

Yup- as usual. Pretty sad.