Decision Time... Your input

Datagg · Jan 30, 2007, 08:50 PM

Just got in the mail my action pack. In it is the upgrade version of Vista business. Here is my dilemma.

Its 32 bit... and i want to upgrade to vista ultimate.... And in about 3 hours my X2 64Bit 5200 will be arriving.(i know good timing isnt it)

Anyways...my posistion here is one of confusion as to what to do... Instal my Upgrade 32 bit version and upgrade to ultimate via the online deal they offer in pack for $139.99 ..but of course will be 32 bit...

or, since i cant begin with 64 bit at all, scrap this Business upgrade and just go buy ultimate 64 bit in the store.

I guess the major points will be... How much of a hit will i take going 32 bit on my 64 bit chip? And if i do this verion I have now, then upgrade..inevitably in time id want to go to 64 bit...and thus just wasted a bunch of cash going the 32 bit route today....

Anyways i have some time here as im waiting for my new chip to come in and do that first...... Does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do?

Thanks

Vikingod · Jan 30, 2007, 09:18 PM

You honestly aren't going to take a hit staying with 32-bit. Most apps and drivers are made 32-bit. Game wise, you won't see any difference yet as well. In the future it is possible 64-bit will be the standard, but not for a while. In fact, my experience with the betas is that 64-bit should be avoided for the time being.

My advise, run with what you have and wait to see how 64-bit pans out in the future. As of right now, you aren't missing anything.

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Jan 30, 2007, 09:40 PM

I'd run 32 bit - drivers work, other stuff works too.

64 bit is going to need some time to mature, I reckon'.

Judas · Jan 30, 2007, 09:47 PM

i'm REALLY hopen that x64 bit drivers for vista mature at an incredibly faster rate then x64 xp drivers... considering they both launched at the same time...

I really am itching for x64, the programs that are natively taking full advantage of x64 is quite nice to use....

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Jan 30, 2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

i'm REALLY hopen that x64 bit drivers for vista mature at an incredibly faster rate then x64 xp drivers... considering they both launched at the same time...

I really am itching for x64, the programs that are natively taking full advantage of x64 is quite nice to use....

It's been years since the A64 chips were released and drivers are still lacking for many things in XP. Vista's a whole new ballgame, so it will probably delay even further.

I read that in 64 bit Vista, if a driver is not signed, it won't let you install it at all. You might want to check on that to be sure though.

There just doesn't seem to be that huge "Rush" to 64 bit like there was to go to 32 bit. The advantages to the consumer don't seem as apparent when it comes to 64 bit.

I'd stick with what works and not go bleeding edge - who needs the hassle right now - especially since 32 bit is so well established and functional?

Datagg · Jan 30, 2007, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

i'm REALLY hopen that x64 bit drivers for vista mature at an incredibly faster rate then x64 xp drivers... considering they both launched at the same time...

I really am itching for x64, the programs that are natively taking full advantage of x64 is quite nice to use....

And this is my fear....... Upgrading to ultimate thru there download service as given thru the action pack, is a nice deal..... But if this 64 bit takes off.... Ive essentially wasted the $139.99.

This is my only true hangup here..... And of course not to waste money

I thank you all for your suggestions.... Still waiting for that CPU to come in....So im still pondering on the decision..

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Jan 30, 2007, 10:03 PM

I don't think having a fully functional 32 bit setup is wasting money...

Datagg · Jan 30, 2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeBoyz

I don't think having a fully functional 32 bit setup is wasting money...

No of course not..im referring to if the 64 bit grows faster than we think it will...and in retrospect wish i just went the other route....

Im sure many with 64 bit computers will be going thru the same decision dilemma....

Judas · Jan 30, 2007, 10:43 PM

well it would be bloody irritating to have to repurchase something because a program requires it..

i think the dilema is the same as when people were making the trasition from 16bit to 32bit....

NeoKrieger · Jan 30, 2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeBoyz

It's been years since the A64 chips were released and drivers are still lacking for many things in XP. Vista's a whole new ballgame, so it will probably delay even further.

I read that in 64 bit Vista, if a driver is not signed, it won't let you install it at all. You might want to check on that to be sure though.

There just doesn't seem to be that huge "Rush" to 64 bit like there was to go to 32 bit. The advantages to the consumer don't seem as apparent when it comes to 64 bit.

I'd stick with what works and not go bleeding edge - who needs the hassle right now - especially since 32 bit is so well established and functional?

I aggree 100%. You are also correct on the x64 drivers too. On RC2, you could not install any drivers that were not digitally signed unless you did so thru admin account. Even while in admin account, this was hard to do. I would say stick with 32-bit for at least another year or so. You wont be losing anything atm for staicking with 32-bit.

Datagg · Jan 30, 2007, 10:53 PM

Ok all thank you for all your suggestions.... My cpu just arrived, and im gonna slap it in, instal business, then upgrade to ultimate. And ill stay with 32 Bit....

i just found this site.....Unless im reading it wrong, MS is offering a type of migration to 64bit when we are ready...for a reduced price.....

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...a/default.mspx

If this is indeed fact, it truly helps im sure for so many with the same thoughts as i have going into vista.

let me know what you guys think on the above site and if it is what it appears to be.

NeoKrieger · Jan 30, 2007, 11:18 PM

From the looks on that link, it would seem to be not a bad deal - depending on what they deem "a minimal fee"....... Couldn't hurt to have it around in case that offer is only for a limited time

Datagg · Jan 31, 2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NeoKrieger

From the looks on that link, it would seem to be not a bad deal - depending on what they deem "a minimal fee"....... Couldn't hurt to have it around in case that offer is only for a limited time

Yeah..I agree.Hope they keep it for awhile...At least till 64 bit looks better.

Well i just got done installing all the new stuff. CPU, vista business...and all I can say is WOW..... it truly is nice. And im happy upi guys talked me into the 32 bit. As now my HP printer works without native drivers as i had to use with x64 etc.

And the new chip...Sweet.....

Well im off to upgrade to Ultimate Now..... Thanks again all......

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Jan 31, 2007, 02:00 AM

Enjoy it while ya got it!

I do think the transition from 32 bit to 64 bit will indeed be a lot less "urgent" than the move from 16 bit to 32 bit was.

If the 32 bit setups were not so stable or were not able to address the gigabytes of memory and hard drives, I guess 64 bit would make more sense. But 32 bit seems quite robust.

Happy gaming!

Jan 30, 2007, 08:50 PM	#1
Datagg Back To ATI Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mesa,AZ Posts: 287 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Decision Time... Your input Just got in the mail my action pack. In it is the upgrade version of Vista business. Here is my dilemma. Its 32 bit... and i want to upgrade to vista ultimate.... And in about 3 hours my X2 64Bit 5200 will be arriving.(i know good timing isnt it) Anyways...my posistion here is one of confusion as to what to do... Instal my Upgrade 32 bit version and upgrade to ultimate via the online deal they offer in pack for $139.99 ..but of course will be 32 bit... or, since i cant begin with 64 bit at all, scrap this Business upgrade and just go buy ultimate 64 bit in the store. I guess the major points will be... How much of a hit will i take going 32 bit on my 64 bit chip? And if i do this verion I have now, then upgrade..inevitably in time id want to go to 64 bit...and thus just wasted a bunch of cash going the 32 bit route today.... Anyways i have some time here as im waiting for my new chip to come in and do that first...... Does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do? Thanks __________________ --- i7-920 @3.8 CORSAIR XMS3 6GB(3 x 2GB) 2 4870 X2's CrossFireX VelociRaptor Asus P6T Deluxe Thermaltake toughpower 1200 Vista 64 Ultimate

Jan 30, 2007, 09:18 PM	#2
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,187 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	You honestly aren't going to take a hit staying with 32-bit. Most apps and drivers are made 32-bit. Game wise, you won't see any difference yet as well. In the future it is possible 64-bit will be the standard, but not for a while. In fact, my experience with the betas is that 64-bit should be avoided for the time being. My advise, run with what you have and wait to see how 64-bit pans out in the future. As of right now, you aren't missing anything. __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Jan 30, 2007, 10:53 PM	Thread Starter #11
Datagg Back To ATI Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mesa,AZ Posts: 287 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Ok all thank you for all your suggestions.... My cpu just arrived, and im gonna slap it in, instal business, then upgrade to ultimate. And ill stay with 32 Bit.... i just found this site.....Unless im reading it wrong, MS is offering a type of migration to 64bit when we are ready...for a reduced price..... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...a/default.mspx If this is indeed fact, it truly helps im sure for so many with the same thoughts as i have going into vista. let me know what you guys think on the above site and if it is what it appears to be. __________________ --- i7-920 @3.8 CORSAIR XMS3 6GB(3 x 2GB) 2 4870 X2's CrossFireX VelociRaptor Asus P6T Deluxe Thermaltake toughpower 1200 Vista 64 Ultimate

Jan 30, 2007, 09:40 PM	#3
~~DudeBoyz~~ banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,677 Rep Power: 0	I'd run 32 bit - drivers work, other stuff works too. 64 bit is going to need some time to mature, I reckon'.

Jan 30, 2007, 10:03 PM	#7
~~DudeBoyz~~ banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,677 Rep Power: 0	I don't think having a fully functional 32 bit setup is wasting money...

Jan 30, 2007, 11:18 PM	#12
NeoKrieger DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	From the looks on that link, it would seem to be not a bad deal - depending on what they deem "a minimal fee"....... Couldn't hurt to have it around in case that offer is only for a limited time

Jan 31, 2007, 02:00 AM	#14
~~DudeBoyz~~ banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,677 Rep Power: 0	Enjoy it while ya got it! I do think the transition from 32 bit to 64 bit will indeed be a lot less "urgent" than the move from 16 bit to 32 bit was. If the 32 bit setups were not so stable or were not able to address the gigabytes of memory and hard drives, I guess 64 bit would make more sense. But 32 bit seems quite robust. Happy gaming!