A couple Vista questions

BlueMak · Jun 13, 2007, 05:17 AM

The UPGRADE edition of Home Premium is the same (freedom to install it etc) as the full Retail apart from needing an installed or cd of XP, correct? If I upgrade the system, perhaps even the mainboard, I shouldn't have problems as with the OEM, right?

Is it possible to install Vista Home Premium Upgrade having not a retail but an Upgrade version of XP?

Vista Home Premium Retail is at 327 euros here, which is US$437.
Thus my questions above. The OEM edition is at 100 euros ($132) and the upgrade at 229euros = $304

The best would be to get the OEM version but I am afraid it is too limited in allowed hardware upgrades.

unga · Jun 16, 2007, 10:58 PM

Do the following:
Install Vista but do not put in the cd key, when you have finished installing you have 30 days to activate. Do not activate, now reinstall Vista using the CD Key. Vista sees an installed version of Windows & you go on your merry way.

Used this myself to do a clean install, but got so excited I started loading programs but used it as an upgradewith the CD Key the second time & it works like a charm. Just be certain to have all the drivers you will need & any important data backed up to another HDD or to a CD/DVD.

Good Luck

NAZ2222 · Jun 17, 2007, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unga

Do the following:
Install Vista but do not put in the cd key, when you have finished installing you have 30 days to activate. Do not activate, now reinstall Vista using the CD Key. Vista sees an installed version of Windows & you go on your merry way.

Used this myself to do a clean install, but got so excited I started loading programs but used it as an upgradewith the CD Key the second time & it works like a charm. Just be certain to have all the drivers you will need & any important data backed up to another HDD or to a CD/DVD.

Good Luck

Yup Unga got it right, but remember this method is not aproved by Microsoft

, they said they trust people will not do it because is rong

! f*** them

Erroneus · Jun 17, 2007, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAZ2222

Yup Unga got it right, but remember this method is not aproved by Microsoft

, they said they trust people will not do it because is rong

! f*** them

Where do you have these facts from? It's MS them self who posted this option and everytime they were asked about it, they said it was oki.

BlueMak · Jun 17, 2007, 05:11 PM

Looks good. So the Upgrade edition does NOT lock itself with a mainboard, correct?

Erroneus · Jun 17, 2007, 06:25 PM

Correct, only OEM does that.

theMaxx2099 · Jun 17, 2007, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unga

Do the following:
Install Vista but do not put in the cd key, when you have finished installing you have 30 days to activate. Do not activate, now reinstall Vista using the CD Key. Vista sees an installed version of Windows & you go on your merry way.

Used this myself to do a clean install, but got so excited I started loading programs but used it as an upgradewith the CD Key the second time & it works like a charm. Just be certain to have all the drivers you will need & any important data backed up to another HDD or to a CD/DVD.

Good Luck

So this allows you to use the upgrade edition without having a previous version of Windows?

Erroneus · Jun 17, 2007, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theMaxx2099

So this allows you to use the upgrade edition without having a previous version of Windows?

Yep, a handy little trick all it requires is an extra reinstall, which doesn't impact they system in any way negative.

BlueMak · Jun 18, 2007, 01:21 AM

That's good news. If this problem goes away or explained http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-...sue-vista.html then I might buy Vista after all.

Using it for half a day and apart from the problem above and some weird error messages (rundll32 stopped running do you want to terminate the application, or something) about 10 times when I watch some music videos, the OS looks fine. It doesn't feel slower than XP (Fresh installation too) and I like the extra security features. Oh, funny thing, I tried to access personal folders from my old XP installation on another drive and got the message that I can't due to it being private or something. Where with XP that would be the end of it, just clicking on continue anyway let me access the private files lol. Very funny.

I also tried IE7 for the first time and while better than the previous, I can't see myself moving away from Opera for it.
I like the new Start menu, and the free games included are ok, and finaly an easy chess game! I think I prefer My Computer from XP, but time will tell.
I will continue using it and install a couple of games and if all goes well I will order it.

Jun 13, 2007, 05:17 AM	#1
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,247 Rep Power: 326 System Specs	A couple Vista questions The UPGRADE edition of Home Premium is the same (freedom to install it etc) as the full Retail apart from needing an installed or cd of XP, correct? If I upgrade the system, perhaps even the mainboard, I shouldn't have problems as with the OEM, right? Is it possible to install Vista Home Premium Upgrade having not a retail but an Upgrade version of XP? Vista Home Premium Retail is at 327 euros here, which is US$437. Thus my questions above. The OEM edition is at 100 euros ($132) and the upgrade at 229euros = $304 The best would be to get the OEM version but I am afraid it is too limited in allowed hardware upgrades. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 17, 2007, 05:11 PM	Thread Starter #5
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,247 Rep Power: 326 System Specs	Looks good. So the Upgrade edition does NOT lock itself with a mainboard, correct? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 17, 2007, 06:25 PM	#6
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,343 Rep Power: 114 System Specs	Correct, only OEM does that. __________________

Jun 18, 2007, 01:21 AM	Thread Starter #9
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,247 Rep Power: 326 System Specs	That's good news. If this problem goes away or explained http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-...sue-vista.html then I might buy Vista after all. Using it for half a day and apart from the problem above and some weird error messages (rundll32 stopped running do you want to terminate the application, or something) about 10 times when I watch some music videos, the OS looks fine. It doesn't feel slower than XP (Fresh installation too) and I like the extra security features. Oh, funny thing, I tried to access personal folders from my old XP installation on another drive and got the message that I can't due to it being private or something. Where with XP that would be the end of it, just clicking on continue anyway let me access the private files lol. Very funny. I also tried IE7 for the first time and while better than the previous, I can't see myself moving away from Opera for it. I like the new Start menu, and the free games included are ok, and finaly an easy chess game! I think I prefer My Computer from XP, but time will tell. I will continue using it and install a couple of games and if all goes well I will order it. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 16, 2007, 10:58 PM	#2
unga HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Do the following: Install Vista but do not put in the cd key, when you have finished installing you have 30 days to activate. Do not activate, now reinstall Vista using the CD Key. Vista sees an installed version of Windows & you go on your merry way. Used this myself to do a clean install, but got so excited I started loading programs but used it as an upgradewith the CD Key the second time & it works like a charm. Just be certain to have all the drivers you will need & any important data backed up to another HDD or to a CD/DVD. Good Luck