[DJShamrock]

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Now. I have an A8R-MVP mobo.Upgraded from 2 gb to 4 sticks of corsair (4x 1 gb sticks) I have googled my ass off and they are saying this is a problem for 32bit OS's but I have a AMD FX-60. I have 2 x1900xtx's crossfired and an about to get me the Prelude sound card. I am on Ambien but I have the hiccups so I can't type.



Here's the guts.


I keep it really cool with my $29 AC-PC mod. I have a tube running from my AC ti my side fan. Normally it runs about 35cel. Noe it never goes over 15 celcius,.

[COLOR=Green]oh yeah I want my 4 gigs!

Please halp
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[Dyre Straits]

According to this table, VISTA (any 32 bit version above Starter) can use 4 GB of RAM. Check the link at the bottom of this section to see the configuration options:

Memory Limits for Windows Releases (Windows)

[Zelig]

Check your motherboards BIOS and enabled "Enabled PCI MMIO hole" or similar options.

[ChaosMinionX]

Either that, or its memory remap feature in bios.

[DJShamrock]

I have Vista 64, and this memory remap feature isn't anywhere in my bios.
I have am Asus A8R-MVP.


On CPU-Z it shows I have 4 gb though.

[ChaosMinionX]

Originally Posted by DJShamrock

I have Vista 64, and this memory remap feature isn't anywhere in my bios.
I have am Asus A8R-MVP.


On CPU-Z it shows I have 4 gb though.

Its looking like an OS problem, or the fact you dont have memory remap in bios, so physically yes its there, addressable? no

After looking at bios documentation, you need to set "Memory Hole Remap" to enabled, and then set "Software Memory Hole" to discrete, or continuous. discrete maps a little under 4GB of ram like 3.9GBish, continuous maps past 4GB.

Hope this helps.

[DJShamrock]

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Its looking like an OS problem, or the fact you dont have memory remap in bios, so physically yes its there, addressable? no

After looking at bios documentation, you need to set "Memory Hole Remap" to enabled, and then set "Software Memory Hole" to discrete, or continuous. discrete maps a little under 4GB of ram like 3.9GBish, continuous maps past 4GB.

Hope this helps.

Where in the bios do I do this?m I am running A8R-MVP Beta BIOS 0602

[Necrosis]

I bet it's because you have dual graphics.

[Zelig]

Originally Posted by DJShamrock

Where in the bios do I do this?m I am running A8R-MVP Beta BIOS 0602

Should be in the memory page if you scroll down.

Originally Posted by Necrosis

I bet it's because you have dual graphics.

It shouldn't make a difference if everything is configured properly with a fully 64-bit compatible system, system devices can be mapped well past the 128GB+ that Windows supports.

[DJShamrock]

Oh I finally found it and set memory hole to enabled. But now the systems windows bar starts to load and freezes during start up. I went back and disabled memory hole and the machine boots.

Is their something I am doing wrong, I heard mumbkings about something that had to do with a dicret setting. I couldn't find it.

[DJShamrock]

Yeah if I post the check the memory hole thing my machine won't even load. What can I do?

[Judas]

try loading into safe mode..

try running a memtest86+ 1.70 diagnostics on the ram when you enable that settings.

Give asus's tech support a run.

There is a slight chance that x64 may have needed to be installed while that setting was enabled..... or it could be a bios/motherboard/vista issue that cropped up unfortuneatly.

[ChaosMinionX]

Originally Posted by DJShamrock

Yeah if I post the check the memory hole thing my machine won't even load. What can I do?

Increase your NB vcore, or Vmch depending... the controller probably needs more voltage to boot that ram, you could also try increasing the ram voltage. see if that works.

[DJShamrock]

In both neither has helped. Well I don't know how to do memtest. Basicaly

Increase your NB vcore, or Vmch depending... the controller probably needs more voltage to boot that ram, you could also try increasing the ram voltage. see if that works.

Couldn't find those setting in the bios. If I check the memhole thing it just freezes and i have to do a cold boot to restart and turn that off in the bios. And get I am running 2 x1900xtx'x crossfire. I have a 700watt psu. I am also running readyboost but I even took that out and still have thwe same issues.

[ChaosMinionX]

Originally Posted by DJShamrock

In both neither has helped. Well I don't know how to do memtest. Basicaly

Increase your NB vcore, or Vmch depending... the controller probably needs more voltage to boot that ram, you could also try increasing the ram voltage. see if that works.

Couldn't find those setting in the bios. If I check the memhole thing it just freezes and i have to do a cold boot to restart and turn that off in the bios. And get I am running 2 x1900xtx'x crossfire. I have a 700watt psu. I am also running readyboost but I even took that out and still have thwe same issues.

is there any setting for northbridge voltage, or memory controller voltage on that board?

[DJShamrock]

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

is there any setting for northbridge voltage, or memory controller voltage on that board?

I think so.


I decided to email Corsair and this is what they told me.

This is a chipset and O.S. limitation. The MB will see a max of 4 Giga Byte 4000 M-Byte not 4096 M-Byte of memory and the memory used for cache will come off the top like for cache on your CPU and memory in your Video card. In addition, what ever you have the AGP aperture size set too will also come off of that number as well.
Example:
4 Giga Bytes = 32,768 M-Bits
Any 32 Bit O.S. or Chipset will only see 32,000 M-Bits
Then it would have to subtract any other memory used in the system like for your Video card and or cache on your CPU, LAN or Modem, and the MB bios may reserve some for caching as well. That would the total size of memory accessible to your system, something between 2.6 to 3.2 Gigs of available memory.

Um I though Vista 64 could hold alot more than 4 gigs of ram.

[ChaosMinionX]

Originally Posted by DJShamrock

I think so.


I decided to email Corsair and this is what they told me.

This is a chipset and O.S. limitation. The MB will see a max of 4 Giga Byte 4000 M-Byte not 4096 M-Byte of memory and the memory used for cache will come off the top like for cache on your CPU and memory in your Video card. In addition, what ever you have the AGP aperture size set too will also come off of that number as well.
Example:
4 Giga Bytes = 32,768 M-Bits
Any 32 Bit O.S. or Chipset will only see 32,000 M-Bits
Then it would have to subtract any other memory used in the system like for your Video card and or cache on your CPU, LAN or Modem, and the MB bios may reserve some for caching as well. That would the total size of memory accessible to your system, something between 2.6 to 3.2 Gigs of available memory.

Um I though Vista 64 could hold alot more than 4 gigs of ram.

If increasing Memory Controller voltage (vMCH) and Northbridge voltages (vNB)
I would suggest upgrading your mobo to one with a better chipset, namely one higher in performance of whatever brand you use for chipsets. ATI, Nvidia, AMD, or Intel chipsets accordingly.

Windows XP x64 can support much more memory; although the theoretical memory limit a 64-bit computer can address is about 16 exabytes (16 billion gigabytes), Windows XP x64 is currently limited to 128 GB of physical memory and 16 TB of virtual memory.

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This applies to Vista as well.

[DJShamrock]

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

If increasing Memory Controller voltage (vMCH) and Northbridge voltages (vNB)
I would suggest upgrading your mobo to one with a better chipset, namely one higher in performance of whatever brand you use for chipsets. ATI, Nvidia, AMD, or Intel chipsets accordingly.

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This applies to Vista as well.

I couldn't find anything about Northbridge or memory controller voltages in my bios. I did see come DDR voltage thing.

[PangingJr]

For Windows Vista to use all 4 GB of memory on a computer that has 4 GB of memory installed, the computer must meet the following requirements:

• The chipset must support at least 8 GB of address space.
• Chipsets that support AMD processors that use socket F, socket 940, socket 939, or socket AM2. These chipsets include any AMD socket and CPU combination in which the memory controller resides in the CPU.
• The CPU must support the x64 instruction set. The AMD64 CPU and the Intel EM64T CPU support this instruction set.
• The BIOS must support the memory remapping feature. The memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. This feature must be enabled in the BIOS configuration utility on the computer. View your computer product documentation for instructions that explain how to enable this feature. Many consumer-oriented computers may not support the memory remapping feature. No standard terminology is used in documentation or in BIOS configuration utilities for this feature. Therefore, you may have to read the descriptions of the various BIOS configuration settings that are available to determine whether any of the settings enable the memory remapping feature.
• An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used.

The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed

[DJShamrock]

Originally Posted by PangingJr

The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed

I read that. Some people aren't having this issue though. I am. My machine, I just reformated my HD. Reset the bios with the battery out and the jumper to clear the memory. I guses I will will have to survive.

[ChaosMinionX]

You should buy a new mobo man, it wasnt a very good board to begin with from what I have read. Very buggy bios, and speaking of which your running the latest bios right?

[DJShamrock]

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

You should buy a new mobo man, it wasnt a very good board to begin with from what I have read. Very buggy bios, and speaking of which your running the latest bios right?

Yeah I have the latest bios. On a floppy I stole from a garage sale. I think it's 0605. Not sure if it is, I have it MEMORIZED! If I was on Jeopardy and they asked "This is the latest bios release from Anus for the A8R-MVP" I would say "What?" And probably win. This bios even makes me mispell shit. This bios made me sleepwalk, skullfuck my neighbors baby and bust a nut on it's tebby bear. This bios also gave me leukemia.

Yeah this Asus A8R-MVP has been a fucking zit on my balls since day one. The only reason I got the piece was at the time it was the only major reputable ATI crossfore mobo at the time. (Feb 2006 which at the time I could only afford one x1900xtx hoping one day in the future could sell my sperm and but another to go crossifre, well I bought the other crossfire card a month ago, and boy is my wife horny ((rimshot))) Now I am am having 47th thoughts. (I lost track after 2nd thoughts so that an estimate.)

Now, not to brag or nothing but I have money, as in I am a moderately wealthy dude. Not mommy and daddy trustfund mind you. I am a graphic designer fulltime (just got hired for my dream job today for a major corp as head manager designer plus I own my own gaming website that's pretty big Game Central Network Boards (Powered by Invision Power Board)

not to cock block driverheaven cause i love you guys.

I have money. But I am an old 36 year old guy. If you are 36 and as half as smart as some of the kids on this site and you don't have dough you are below average intelligence.

If you could sugest a new mobo, like the dream mobo for a buy with a 939 FX-60 coolermaster liquid cooling with my patanted AC2PC cooling mod on top of that, with dual x1900's running crossfire and and Azunazi Prelude which I am running in my Asus A8R-MVP currently...

Which mobo should I get?

Seiously, this Asus A8R-MVP is as reliable as George W. Bush.

When I got this fucker it was the only crossfire mobo out at the time. I do research and shit but goddamn I have a life. I have to feed my cats and bang my wife and go to work.

After thet I run a music studio and if I get a chance i play Bioshock on the PC. I am a PC junky. I spent all this cash on periphials that plug into a mobo that if it were in in the special olympics it wouldn't make it past the handicap parking lot.

I have reformated my HD with Vista Ultimate 4x (which means times if you are from Austrailia) in 3 weeks, my D: 300gb drives keeps magically disapeering I have to unplug it from the PSU and replau it in and reboot the machine to get it too see it. Oh bonus points. I installed Microsoft Onecare or Live Care and it formated my D: drive that had all these pesty documents and photos and music and all my PSD's since I am a graphics designer that were filling it up. Now my D drive is freeed up that were filling it up. Whew. Thanks Microduechnozzle. It's like a brand new HD that workd when the moon aligns with uranus.

I got a Apaccer 2gb ready boost USB drive, 4 gb of ram that only 2689mb are showing up, 2 fucking x1900 (one crossfire one 1900xtx) at WD you know what fuck it look at my rig.

I spent 4 grand on this shit to play Crysis! Best investment ever. Have you played Crysis yet? Me neither. The videos look great though. I bet when the demo comes out I will be on CNN telling the world how amazing Cryteck is with in some sort of Crysis while I am Crying.
Here's cap of my device manager.



Now I got top of the line everything with a Mobo that acts like I just skullfucked it and busted a nut on the softspot of the baby bitched dome eveuytime I try to play I game.

I got a dedicated power line from my house going from my 400 watt fuse box going into an APC BackUPS 1200 to make sure all my voltages are on the level.
My problem has to be the MOBO.

I don't know I great mobo from a great buttplug.

IF ANYONE HERE CAN GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT MOBO I NEED FOR AN ATI FANHO WITH AN 700 WATT POWER SUPPLY THATI SHOULD GET TO STABILIZE MY SYSTEM PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I ain't sorry about the caps. I fact I got a glock 9 aimed at my machine and I ain't afraid to use it. Nothing is even overclocked at this point except my glock. Overcocked I mean.. All my mbo settings are default. Overdrive isn't enabled. I paid for 4 gb of ram I get 2.8, Corsair tech support is run by illegal immigrants and I have a bag of crack rocks and I will smoke it, drive to Asus, and get friendly which the president and snort a line of crystal drano with him if they don't release a bios that doesn't require me taking my kabar to unplug there silly little battery and play with there jumper that's smaller that a japanese man's boner everytime I want to keep my rig going for more than 5 days with it commiting hari kari.

P.S.

Fuck Creative driver team, ATI is cool, fuckity fuck Asus, Azuntech is cool, I'll stay cool and quiet about AMD.

P. to the mother fucking P.S.

IAM AN RUNNING VISTA ULTIMATE AND DO HAVE THE RELIABLITY AND EORFORMANCE UPDATES AND ALL MY BIOS VERSIONS AND DRIVER VERSIONA AND MY SPERM BANK AND DNA IS UP TO DATE AND I BUILT A MACHINE THAT CRASHES IS IF TRY TO PLAY BIOSHOCK AFTER 4 REFORMATS AND YES I EVEN GOT THE HOTFIX WHICH ACTUALLY IS A COCKFIX CAUSE IT FUCKED UP MY RIG WORSE TAHN GODDAMIT --------ok I took a xanax and drank a couple of forty's of mickeys.

Hey gears of war on the 360 is pretty dope and that game Skate, that Xbox 360 demo is sick.

Oh I need a better mobo. Anyone have any suggestions?

[PangingJr]

ah a lot of fuck ups today.
i have never built AMD based computer but anyways i like to suggest you check to make sure that the problem is caused by your motherboard and that it cannot be fixed by a BIOS settings or an update but only to replace it before you decided to change it. may be visit Asus forums and check with people there who are using the same board.

[DJShamrock]

Originally Posted by PangingJr

ah a lot of fuck ups today.
i have never built AMD based computer but anyways i like to suggest you check to make sure that the problem is caused by your motherboard and that it cannot be fixed by a BIOS settings or an update but only to replace it before you decided to change it. may be visit Asus forums and check with people there who are using the same board.

Heve you ever visted the Asus forums? I took 2 weks for someone to respond as to why my onboard sound was only coming out 2.1 when I had a 5.1 system. I know my fair share about PC's and whatnot but every issue I have had has seemed to result in one way or another to Anus Mobos. I can build machines noprob/ I just want a board that I am not going to get screwed on.

Everyime I boot this mobo it says "Performance, reliaibility, stability" on the load screen. And everytime I just see that I want to punch something for no reason. My wife hasn't had sex with me in a month and we just had our sixth weddding anniverisity sept. 1 and my cats are hiding under my couch because the only reliable thing is the BSOD I get from trying to play Bioshock.

I played it fine untiil I installed my Azun Prelude. I figured my own work around for that was to open each setting in the 3 profiles, game, entertainment, and porn settings. Then going into windows speaker setup and it then recognizes I actually have an analog 5.1 sound system. But I have to do it for each setting.

I mean My machine is awesome, it just can't play games anymore.



[COLOR=DarkOrange] I have a $4000 paperweight.[/COLOR]

[PangingJr]

Originally Posted by DJShamrock

that looking fucking cool man.
check with Judas he probably can help you further about your new motherboard.