AM2 Cpu and the Dual core optamiser driver

Mr cairo · Mar 30, 2008, 09:58 AM

just rebuilt the system after a particularly nasty crash while loading up John Woo's Stranglehold (dont ask)

anyway was updating the drivers and i recall using this particular one on the XP system with the FX60 chip ....

AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter) instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC) is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications may experience on dual-core processor systems, by periodically adjusting the core time-stamp-counters, so that they are synchronized.

.... question is do i still need to install this on Vista ?

Thanks

mkk · Mar 30, 2008, 10:23 AM

Vista has the functionality built in so it doesn't need to have any separate utility installed.

Mr cairo · Mar 30, 2008, 12:46 PM

Awesome thanks a lot for the reply m8

*rep*

PangingJr · Mar 31, 2008, 10:04 AM

the software's description is very promising, i probably don't know what to do with it, but to try it.
can possibly need to spend quite a time learning about it.

Judas · Mar 31, 2008, 06:27 PM

Windows XP required that peice of software to be installed or else alot of programs would crash horribly ... vista... already has everything sorted out.. and i think vista's implementation is much better anyways

MitchRapp · Mar 31, 2008, 10:40 PM

I had no idea Vista already had this issue covered...

When I built my new PC, I installed Vista 64 on it and proceeded to install all drivers

I went to the AMD site and this little tool said XP/Vista so I installed it to.

I've never had Vista crash in any way... so I dunno if this is good to keep or not.

Does it use a lot of ressources?

Judas · Mar 31, 2008, 11:46 PM

No i don't think so..

if your having no issues... good.. don't "fix" it.. lol

But all the machines i've built, i've never needed the utility.... i've however tried installing it and encountered some oddities..

An example of which is with windows xp.... unreal tournament (classic)... would refuse to run properly with a dual core amd setup... installing the optimiser fixed it..

Windows vista, without the optimiser things work beautifully.. actually better and faster then xp.... installed the optimiser and was greeted with a pile of problems.

MitchRapp · Apr 1, 2008, 10:02 PM

well I guess I won't try to "fix" something that isn't broken ... I'm already happy I can run Crysis very well ... I don't wanna get stuck under 30fps

Prince_Link · Aug 21, 2009, 12:48 AM

Contrary to popular, and uninformed belief, Vista DOES NOT, include the fixes for the TSC synching issue, and there are quite a few single core only games that will have performance issues without the optimiser.

Mar 30, 2008, 09:58 AM	#1
Mr cairo F0rum For Humans Only Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Slightly to the left Posts: 1,780 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	AM2 Cpu and the Dual core optamiser driver just rebuilt the system after a particularly nasty crash while loading up John Woo's Stranglehold (dont ask) anyway was updating the drivers and i recall using this particular one on the XP system with the FX60 chip .... AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter) instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC) is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications may experience on dual-core processor systems, by periodically adjusting the core time-stamp-counters, so that they are synchronized. .... question is do i still need to install this on Vista ? Thanks __________________ *Please consider Sponsoring my wife for the race for life*

Mar 30, 2008, 12:46 PM	Thread Starter #3
Mr cairo F0rum For Humans Only Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Slightly to the left Posts: 1,780 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Awesome thanks a lot for the reply m8 rep __________________ *Please consider Sponsoring my wife for the race for life*

Aug 21, 2009, 12:48 AM	#9
Prince_Link HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: AM2 Cpu and the Dual core optamiser driver Contrary to popular, and uninformed belief, Vista DOES NOT, include the fixes for the TSC synching issue, and there are quite a few single core only games that will have performance issues without the optimiser. __________________

Mar 30, 2008, 10:23 AM	#2
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Vista has the functionality built in so it doesn't need to have any separate utility installed.

Mar 31, 2008, 10:04 AM	#4
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	the software's description is very promising, i probably don't know what to do with it, but to try it. can possibly need to spend quite a time learning about it.

Mar 31, 2008, 10:40 PM	#6
MitchRapp a.k.a. pepiman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 998 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	I had no idea Vista already had this issue covered... When I built my new PC, I installed Vista 64 on it and proceeded to install all drivers I went to the AMD site and this little tool said XP/Vista so I installed it to. I've never had Vista crash in any way... so I dunno if this is good to keep or not. Does it use a lot of ressources?

Apr 1, 2008, 10:02 PM	#8
MitchRapp a.k.a. pepiman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 998 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	well I guess I won't try to "fix" something that isn't broken ... I'm already happy I can run Crysis very well ... I don't wanna get stuck under 30fps