vista64 & gw.

mike2h · Jun 12, 2008, 06:10 PM

anybody had issues playing gw in 64?
my fps is averaging teens, i can get to 40 sometimes if im standing still in gh by myself. i dropped all my graph setting to med & went from 4 to 2x aa. no change

my ping has also been about 20% worse than my wifes vista 32 in gw.
ive tried both vers of xp compatibilty mode, all they did was make the screen flkr & had no effect on anything else.
anet says they will not support vista64, wich i can actually understand at this point, just dont like it. they gave me a couple of suggestion but didnt help.
so anybody got any ideas..... pls

mike2h · Jun 13, 2008, 09:51 PM

bumpity bump

PangingJr · Jun 18, 2008, 07:38 AM

i have no idea about that but i help you bump this up again anyway, lol. judas might know something about this he is a vista x64 fan and also game for so long as far as i know. but i haven't seen him around lately.

mike2h · Jun 18, 2008, 05:14 PM

lol tyvm.

ChaosMinionX · Jun 19, 2008, 08:22 AM

What is GW?

**temeteus82** · Jun 19, 2008, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

What is GW?

Gears of War?

mike2h · Jun 19, 2008, 05:06 PM

gw=guild wars
GoW=gears of war

**temeteus82** · Jun 19, 2008, 05:44 PM

lol
I'm glad that I'm on holiday.

edge connection works for my N95

mike2h · Jun 19, 2008, 10:10 PM

holiday=GOOD!

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 10:23 PM

what is N95, temeteus82?

BlueMak · Jun 19, 2008, 10:40 PM

Random abbreviations FTW, LOL.

N95 is a NOKIA mobile phone.
What it means is that temeteus is either rich or works for Nokia. ;p

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 10:48 PM

oh okay,
and lol for what's it means.

Madgoat1979 · Jun 20, 2008, 08:20 PM

try turning off sli (if at all possible)

~MG~

mike2h · Jun 20, 2008, 08:50 PM

dont have sli... but ty.

Tril · Jun 22, 2008, 04:50 PM

Do you have the latest NVIDIA drivers? Right now the latest are 175.16.

I've got a suggestion but I have no idea if it will make a difference. Press Windows key + Pause key, click Advanced system settings, click Settings under the Performance tab, uncheck "Enable desktop composition".

When this is activated, Vista renders every window to an off-screen buffer to keep every Window content in memory. To display them on your desktop, it makes a copy from these buffers to the desktop buffer.

I'm not sure if it's activated when you play games. If it is, it means there's an additional copy from buffer to buffer that happens (game renders to offscreen buffer, Vista copies the offscreen buffer to the desktop buffer).

Apart from that, maybe you could report this as a bug to NVIDIA. They have information about the current bugs in their driver releases notes (did not see any for GW in the latest driver releases notes).

There's also something called Multimedia Class Scheduler service (MMCSS) in Vista. It gives priority to multimedia applications over other stuff like networking. It needs to be activated by the app to be used. Windows Media Player uses it. Maybe DirectX uses it too since it's also made by Microsoft (I have no idea if it does). With SP1, Microsoft added a way to adjust network throttling. From what I read, the problems with throttling mainly happens at very high speed (gigabit) but maybe this throttling also affects ping.

mike2h · Jun 23, 2008, 01:03 AM

thx! when i get my mb bk ill chk it out.

Jun 12, 2008, 06:10 PM	#1
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	vista64 & gw. anybody had issues playing gw in 64? my fps is averaging teens, i can get to 40 sometimes if im standing still in gh by myself. i dropped all my graph setting to med & went from 4 to 2x aa. no change my ping has also been about 20% worse than my wifes vista 32 in gw. ive tried both vers of xp compatibilty mode, all they did was make the screen flkr & had no effect on anything else. anet says they will not support vista64, wich i can actually understand at this point, just dont like it. they gave me a couple of suggestion but didnt help. so anybody got any ideas..... pls __________________

Jun 13, 2008, 09:51 PM	Thread Starter #2
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	bumpity bump __________________

Jun 18, 2008, 05:14 PM	Thread Starter #4
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	lol tyvm. __________________

Jun 19, 2008, 08:22 AM	#5
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	What is GW? __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Jun 19, 2008, 05:06 PM	Thread Starter #7
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	gw=guild wars GoW=gears of war __________________

Jun 18, 2008, 07:38 AM	#3
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i have no idea about that but i help you bump this up again anyway, lol. judas might know something about this he is a vista x64 fan and also game for so long as far as i know. but i haven't seen him around lately.

Jun 19, 2008, 10:10 PM	Thread Starter #9
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	holiday=GOOD! __________________

Jun 19, 2008, 10:23 PM	#10
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	what is N95, temeteus82?

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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Random abbreviations FTW, LOL. N95 is a NOKIA mobile phone. What it means is that temeteus is either rich or works for Nokia. ;p __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 19, 2008, 10:48 PM	#12
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	oh okay, and lol for what's it means.

Jun 20, 2008, 08:20 PM	#13
Madgoat1979 VTX NuTz!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 763 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	try turning off sli (if at all possible) ~MG~ __________________

Jun 20, 2008, 08:50 PM	Thread Starter #14
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	dont have sli... but ty. __________________

Jun 22, 2008, 04:50 PM	#15
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Do you have the latest NVIDIA drivers? Right now the latest are 175.16. I've got a suggestion but I have no idea if it will make a difference. Press Windows key + Pause key, click Advanced system settings, click Settings under the Performance tab, uncheck "Enable desktop composition". When this is activated, Vista renders every window to an off-screen buffer to keep every Window content in memory. To display them on your desktop, it makes a copy from these buffers to the desktop buffer. I'm not sure if it's activated when you play games. If it is, it means there's an additional copy from buffer to buffer that happens (game renders to offscreen buffer, Vista copies the offscreen buffer to the desktop buffer). Apart from that, maybe you could report this as a bug to NVIDIA. They have information about the current bugs in their driver releases notes (did not see any for GW in the latest driver releases notes). There's also something called Multimedia Class Scheduler service (MMCSS) in Vista. It gives priority to multimedia applications over other stuff like networking. It needs to be activated by the app to be used. Windows Media Player uses it. Maybe DirectX uses it too since it's also made by Microsoft (I have no idea if it does). With SP1, Microsoft added a way to adjust network throttling. From what I read, the problems with throttling mainly happens at very high speed (gigabit) but maybe this throttling also affects ping.

Jun 23, 2008, 01:03 AM	Thread Starter #16
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	thx! when i get my mb bk ill chk it out. __________________