Vista 64 vs Vista 32

Ferret_Style · Aug 29, 2008, 10:59 PM

Ok so i have my new system and cant decide on 64 vs 32 bit. Specs are bellow. I have noticed in 64 some apps dont work quite well (asus MB software and a few others)

Specs:
Q9550
4 Gig PC-1066 ddr2
2 x 7200.11 Segate 500 GB (raid 0)
2 x HD4850 Toxic (crossfire x)
Vista Ultimate

Judas · Aug 29, 2008, 11:19 PM

64bit....

don't think about 32bit.....

imo

**kris23** · Aug 29, 2008, 11:23 PM

get 64 bit vista..

thats just it

Ferret_Style · Aug 29, 2008, 11:28 PM

The nice part is when i bought Vista ultimate it was from a friend who works for MS and got the store copy for 50 bucks.... nice part is it came with both 64 and 32 bit. I have 64 installed but i guess like anything it is just taking getting used to.

Customgamer1 · Sep 7, 2008, 08:09 PM

Your love 64 bit.

So fast, So fun, your just really like using it.

I have almost 0 issues. Nothing locks up, freezes, or other problems!! Leaps and bounds over XP!

My Asus laptop came with all 32 and 64 bit drivers so I ran into no hardware problems and that was a huge plus.

If you do a little homework and check to see if all your hardware works in 64bit mode you should be good to go!

Vehicon · Sep 7, 2008, 10:05 PM

I haven't had any issues with 64bityet. I used 32 until i added another 4 gigs to my system. Both would be fine, but i guess it depends on what you do on your computer.

Tril · Sep 10, 2008, 10:00 PM

Only issue I've noticed is that some programming tools (tool to program a FPGA and some debuggers) don't work on Vista 64 bit.

Also, sometimes some devices don't have 64 bit drivers (VR920).

Also, the NVIDIA drivers control panel had less options in Vista 64 bit before than Vista 32 bit. It's improved now.

OldBuzzard · Sep 11, 2008, 01:36 AM

Like the other guys said...64 bit, no contest.

Use a 4GB ram drive in ready boost, while you have 4GB mem. It will help performance.

Save up enough for another 4GB of RAM, and Vista 64 will amaze you. Expecially after a week or two when Superfetch gets a handle on how you use your system, and starts preloading the right apps into RAM so they are there and ready for you when you want them.

Gerjan · Sep 19, 2008, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferret_Style

Ok so i have my new system and cant decide on 64 vs 32 bit. Specs are bellow. I have noticed in 64 some apps dont work quite well (asus MB software and a few others)

Specs:
Q9550
4 Gig PC-1066 ddr2
2 x 7200.11 Segate 500 GB (raid 0)
2 x HD4850 Toxic (crossfire x)
Vista Ultimate

Since you have 4GB, you have no choice. 32-bits vista will only let you use +/-3GB of your ram while 64-bits Vista (or any 64-bits OS) will let you use all your ram.

Besides that, I am using 64-bits Vista Ultimate from the beginning, now with 8GB (4x2GB) and there are enough drivers out there. It might have been a bit troublesome in the early day's. But it is fine now.

Vista Ultimate 64-bits seems to run a whole lot smoother for me. All 32-bits apps I tried worked and some true 64-bits apps run even smoother (3dsmax 2008 for example and I hope Photoshop in the future (cs4?)).

So don't hesitate and pick 64-bits vista

. If, and I really doubt it, you run in some trouble, you can always go back and install the 32-bits version

.

Zardon · Sep 19, 2008, 06:15 PM

64bit,. its not like the XP days. the OS is the de facto windows OS now. 32bit is just the same with support for less memory as well as some processor functionality.

Shaga · Oct 19, 2008, 06:31 AM

I have only 2gb ram on this pc and some older hardware(except hd4850). Using xp32 now and games work well anyway even tho I don't have dual core cpu or more memory.

Should I switch to vista x86 or x64? Or is it only recommended if you have more memory?

amd64 3700+(san diego)
2gb ram
ati hd4850
x-fi extremegamer

I'm using computer for movies/gaming.

**kris23** · Oct 19, 2008, 07:15 AM

theres really no difference if you had 64 bit or 32 bit with only 2Gb RAM,

i say just stay with 32bit vista.

BlueMak · Oct 19, 2008, 01:51 PM

I have 64bit version and no problems so far (a few days).
Windows recognise if the program you are installing is 32 or 64 bit and runs it accordingly. For me, even if you don't have over 4GB of RAM, there is very little reason to go with the 32bit version. If your PC can run Vista, you might as well run the "better" one.

Shaga · Oct 21, 2008, 06:57 PM

Lets try vista64 then.

OmegaRED · Nov 5, 2008, 04:21 PM

Thanks for the info, I was trying to decide whether I'd make the jump to Vista 64 for my new system. All I'm concerned about is that the majority of my games will run in that environment but it sounds like that's not an issue.

Shaga · Nov 5, 2008, 04:36 PM

Had some other stuff to do. Installed vista64 this morning. I haven't played anything yet or tried video but as for desktop-use, I love this. Installed also MyColors.

I don't usually like stardock apps but just tried this before getting rid of xp(no mess for os this way), I like it and it feels clean & light.

OldBuzzard · Nov 6, 2008, 07:10 PM

@Omega
@Shaga

I just looked at your system specs and see that both of you have 2GB RAM. You are a prime candidates for using READYBOOST.

READYBOOST will give you a very nice increase in performance. If you have an open USB slot, and a 4GB RAM stick, Vista will use that along with SUPERFETCH, and you will like the results.

Just plug a 4GB Ram stick into the USB, wait for the popup to ask if you wish to use it for ready boost. It will also ask how much of it you want to use. Just tell Vista ALL of it.

Both of you will also see that Vista will get a bit "snappier" after a week or so as SUPERFETCH 'learns' how you use your system, and starts preloading the applications you use most often.

Superfetch works, and works well. Right now, out of 8GB, the Performance tab in TASK MANAGER shows just 654Mb as being "free". Now, all I'm using at the current time is IE7. The rest of my Memory is pre-loaded with the applications the I use a lot, so that they are in memory right now, and when I use one of them, Vista doesn't have to go to the HDD, and read it into memory before it ca use it. Now if I open up something that Superfetch hasn't reloaded, it still isn't a problem. Superfetch will instantly free up the memory that is needed to run the application, then when I'm finished, it will bring back in the "pre load' applications so that they are again there if/when I want them. All of this is done in the background and you never really 'see' it happening, but it's one of the things that puts Vista miles ahead of XP.

OmegaRED · Nov 6, 2008, 07:54 PM

Buzzard I wasn't going to use Vista 64 with this computer. I'm building a new PC with 4 gigs of ram and this thread has convinced me it will be wise to switch to Vista 64. I will get a 4 gig USB drive as per your suggestion.

Shaga · Nov 6, 2008, 07:57 PM

Thanks for the tip. I only have 2gb stick but started using it for readyboost.

Valdeam · Nov 27, 2008, 01:57 AM

Only problems i've heard of with the 64-bits so far have been printer drivers.

Valdeam

OldBuzzard · Nov 27, 2008, 05:27 PM

Whose printers?

I use Canon Printers and have had no problems with Vista 64 drivers. I had an MP500, and then upgraded to the MP530, and they both work with no issues at all.

Gaijin · Nov 27, 2008, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valdeam

Only problems i've heard of with the 64-bits so far have been printer drivers.

I had a small problem in the beginning concerning printer drivers too, other than that I've been more than happy using Vista x64.

Had a bit of trouble finding the proper 64-bit driver for my old Samsung laser printer at first. My newer Canon Pixma photo printer worked like a dream in Vista x64 since day one.

PandaZ3 · Dec 30, 2008, 12:31 AM

I have two with Home Premium 64 and my #1 has Ultimate 64 and I have another With XP64.

Here is a recent article about Vista 64

MitchRapp · Dec 30, 2008, 03:11 AM

64bit SHOULD be the new standard
I've configured a couple of PC's lately for clients and family, and I find it much smoother over 64bit
and on top of that most PC's come standard with 4gb of RAM, 64bit CPU and DX10 so why not?
Vista x64 Home, Business and Ultimate are very nice to use

I run x64 Ultimate on my rig ... no crashes, no blue screens, gaming is excellent and best of all you have a very very high limit for RAM (128gb I believe) so upgrading to 8 or 16gb on a regular desktop PC should not be an issue

PandaZ3 · Dec 30, 2008, 04:08 AM

I obviously agree 64 is the way to go, and while the OS is capable of high memory addressing, most desktops would be hard pressed to use 16 Gig due to Dram size and slots.

But the future is there!

WardenWolf · Dec 30, 2008, 06:18 AM

Vista32 is the horribly crippled and retarded brother to Vista64.

Customgamer1 · Dec 30, 2008, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WardenWolf

Vista32 is the horribly crippled and retarded brother to Vista64.

lol that's a good way to put it!

Don't use the retard if you don't need to!

WardenWolf · Dec 30, 2008, 06:42 AM

Fact is, Vista was designed to be a 64-bit OS. It's optimized for 64-bit. Because of this, 32-bit Vista has some serious limitations in its performance. To truly unleash its capabilities, you need 64-bit.

pigdog · Feb 16, 2009, 02:02 PM

On this threads subject (sort of) I have some questions:

I'm currently running Vista32. I'm going to do a clean re-install soon.

After reading this thread, I've decided to go to 64 goodness.

My copy of Vista32 is an upgrade version. So I re-install xp, then upgrade it to vista32.

My questions are:

How do I upgrade to 64? Do I have to buy a new copy of Vista, or can I pay to get a key that unlocks the 64version?

I'd heard that all the versions of Vista are on the MS DVD. Is this true?

If it is, can I upgrade from XPpro32bit To Vista 64?

I know I could call my local PC shop, but it's 1am here, and am to impatient to wait

Cheers
The Dog

pigdog · Feb 16, 2009, 02:36 PM

Sorry guys. I pulled my finger out and did some research:

"you must be running a 64-bit operating system. (such as [COLOR=#0066cc]Windows XP 64-bit[/COLOR]). Unfortunately, if you are running a 32-bit operating system you cannot upgrade to a 64-bit edition of Windows Vista with the bits currently available for download from Windows Marketplace."

Oh well, time to spend some cash and to start playing WITH my pc

Aug 29, 2008, 11:23 PM	#3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	get 64 bit vista.. thats just it __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

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Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Your love 64 bit. So fast, So fun, your just really like using it. I have almost 0 issues. Nothing locks up, freezes, or other problems!! Leaps and bounds over XP! My Asus laptop came with all 32 and 64 bit drivers so I ran into no hardware problems and that was a huge plus. If you do a little homework and check to see if all your hardware works in 64bit mode you should be good to go! __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

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Vehicon The Cable Guy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA IL. Posts: 466 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	I haven't had any issues with 64bityet. I used 32 until i added another 4 gigs to my system. Both would be fine, but i guess it depends on what you do on your computer. __________________

Sep 11, 2008, 01:36 AM	#8
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Like the other guys said...64 bit, no contest. Use a 4GB ram drive in ready boost, while you have 4GB mem. It will help performance. Save up enough for another 4GB of RAM, and Vista 64 will amaze you. Expecially after a week or two when Superfetch gets a handle on how you use your system, and starts preloading the right apps into RAM so they are there and ready for you when you want them. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

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Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 I have only 2gb ram on this pc and some older hardware(except hd4850). Using xp32 now and games work well anyway even tho I don't have dual core cpu or more memory. Should I switch to vista x86 or x64? Or is it only recommended if you have more memory? amd64 3700+(san diego) 2gb ram ati hd4850 x-fi extremegamer I'm using computer for movies/gaming. __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Sep 10, 2008, 10:00 PM	#7
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Only issue I've noticed is that some programming tools (tool to program a FPGA and some debuggers) don't work on Vista 64 bit. Also, sometimes some devices don't have 64 bit drivers (VR920). Also, the NVIDIA drivers control panel had less options in Vista 64 bit before than Vista 32 bit. It's improved now.

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Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	64bit,. its not like the XP days. the OS is the de facto windows OS now. 32bit is just the same with support for less memory as well as some processor functionality.

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kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 theres really no difference if you had 64 bit or 32 bit with only 2Gb RAM, i say just stay with 32bit vista. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 I have 64bit version and no problems so far (a few days). Windows recognise if the program you are installing is 32 or 64 bit and runs it accordingly. For me, even if you don't have over 4GB of RAM, there is very little reason to go with the 32bit version. If your PC can run Vista, you might as well run the "better" one. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Oct 21, 2008, 06:57 PM	#14
Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Lets try vista64 then. __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Nov 5, 2008, 04:21 PM	#15
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Thanks for the info, I was trying to decide whether I'd make the jump to Vista 64 for my new system. All I'm concerned about is that the majority of my games will run in that environment but it sounds like that's not an issue. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Nov 5, 2008, 04:36 PM	#16
Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Had some other stuff to do. Installed vista64 this morning. I haven't played anything yet or tried video but as for desktop-use, I love this. Installed also MyColors. I don't usually like stardock apps but just tried this before getting rid of xp(no mess for os this way), I like it and it feels clean & light. __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Nov 6, 2008, 07:10 PM	#17
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 @Omega @Shaga I just looked at your system specs and see that both of you have 2GB RAM. You are a prime candidates for using READYBOOST. READYBOOST will give you a very nice increase in performance. If you have an open USB slot, and a 4GB RAM stick, Vista will use that along with SUPERFETCH, and you will like the results. Just plug a 4GB Ram stick into the USB, wait for the popup to ask if you wish to use it for ready boost. It will also ask how much of it you want to use. Just tell Vista ALL of it. Both of you will also see that Vista will get a bit "snappier" after a week or so as SUPERFETCH 'learns' how you use your system, and starts preloading the applications you use most often. Superfetch works, and works well. Right now, out of 8GB, the Performance tab in TASK MANAGER shows just 654Mb as being "free". Now, all I'm using at the current time is IE7. The rest of my Memory is pre-loaded with the applications the I use a lot, so that they are in memory right now, and when I use one of them, Vista doesn't have to go to the HDD, and read it into memory before it ca use it. Now if I open up something that Superfetch hasn't reloaded, it still isn't a problem. Superfetch will instantly free up the memory that is needed to run the application, then when I'm finished, it will bring back in the "pre load' applications so that they are again there if/when I want them. All of this is done in the background and you never really 'see' it happening, but it's one of the things that puts Vista miles ahead of XP. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY Last edited by OldBuzzard; Nov 6, 2008 at 07:30 PM.

Nov 6, 2008, 07:54 PM	#18
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Buzzard I wasn't going to use Vista 64 with this computer. I'm building a new PC with 4 gigs of ram and this thread has convinced me it will be wise to switch to Vista 64. I will get a 4 gig USB drive as per your suggestion. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Nov 6, 2008, 07:57 PM	#19
Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Thanks for the tip. I only have 2gb stick but started using it for readyboost. __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Dec 30, 2008, 12:31 AM	#23
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 419 Rep Power: 0	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 I have two with Home Premium 64 and my #1 has Ultimate 64 and I have another With XP64. Here is a recent article about Vista 64 __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Nov 27, 2008, 01:57 AM	#20
Valdeam DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Only problems i've heard of with the 64-bits so far have been printer drivers. Valdeam

Nov 27, 2008, 05:27 PM	#21
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Whose printers? I use Canon Printers and have had no problems with Vista 64 drivers. I had an MP500, and then upgraded to the MP530, and they both work with no issues at all. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Dec 30, 2008, 03:11 AM	#24
MitchRapp a.k.a. pepiman Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 998 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 64bit SHOULD be the new standard I've configured a couple of PC's lately for clients and family, and I find it much smoother over 64bit and on top of that most PC's come standard with 4gb of RAM, 64bit CPU and DX10 so why not? Vista x64 Home, Business and Ultimate are very nice to use I run x64 Ultimate on my rig ... no crashes, no blue screens, gaming is excellent and best of all you have a very very high limit for RAM (128gb I believe) so upgrading to 8 or 16gb on a regular desktop PC should not be an issue

Dec 30, 2008, 04:08 AM	#25
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 419 Rep Power: 0	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 I obviously agree 64 is the way to go, and while the OS is capable of high memory addressing, most desktops would be hard pressed to use 16 Gig due to Dram size and slots. But the future is there! __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Dec 30, 2008, 06:18 AM	#26
WardenWolf DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Vista32 is the horribly crippled and retarded brother to Vista64.

Dec 30, 2008, 06:42 AM	#28
WardenWolf DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Fact is, Vista was designed to be a 64-bit OS. It's optimized for 64-bit. Because of this, 32-bit Vista has some serious limitations in its performance. To truly unleash its capabilities, you need 64-bit.

Feb 16, 2009, 02:02 PM	#29
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 On this threads subject (sort of) I have some questions: I'm currently running Vista32. I'm going to do a clean re-install soon. After reading this thread, I've decided to go to 64 goodness. My copy of Vista32 is an upgrade version. So I re-install xp, then upgrade it to vista32. My questions are: How do I upgrade to 64? Do I have to buy a new copy of Vista, or can I pay to get a key that unlocks the 64version? I'd heard that all the versions of Vista are on the MS DVD. Is this true? If it is, can I upgrade from XPpro32bit To Vista 64? I know I could call my local PC shop, but it's 1am here, and am to impatient to wait Cheers The Dog __________________

Feb 16, 2009, 02:36 PM	#30
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	Re: Vista 64 vs Vista 32 Sorry guys. I pulled my finger out and did some research: "you must be running a 64-bit operating system. (such as [COLOR=#0066cc]Windows XP 64-bit[/COLOR]). Unfortunately, if you are running a 32-bit operating system you cannot upgrade to a 64-bit edition of Windows Vista with the bits currently available for download from Windows Marketplace." Oh well, time to spend some cash and to start playing WITH my pc __________________