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Old Nov 12, 2008, 12:42 PM   #1
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Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

If this has been posted before my apologies. This is an annoying issue that has been happening on and off since I installed this. For some reason seemingly at random after some reboots it changes personalize/screensaver/power setting to ....

1) Monitor off after 15 minutes
2) System off after 20 minutes

I have reset, applied and saved this to never and it keeps changing back any ideas? Basically what happens is I go to work or to bed and the machine is off when I get up if I don't double check these settings first
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Old Nov 12, 2008, 01:41 PM   #2
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Re: Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

Try creating a new "power plan", in case the current one has become damaged somehow. If that doesn't help I'd suspect that perhaps some program is altering the setting, like in case it's a brand name system with some separate power management tool running in the background or similar.
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Re: Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

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Try creating a new "power plan", in case the current one has become damaged somehow. If that doesn't help I'd suspect that perhaps some program is altering the setting, like in case it's a brand name system with some separate power management tool running in the background or similar.
Thanks for your feedback I just created "Custom Power Plan1" and will keep an eye on it. If that doesn't solve it I may have to see if I can disable it in services or somewhere.

Problem is while reviewing I often have to reboot several times after altering BIOS settings. Odds usually are if I leave one test to run overnight that's when it will shut down.

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Re: Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

Well mkk worked for a few days then went and ran some benchmarks last night. Rebooted 2 or 3 times then ....




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Re: Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

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I do have my monitor set to shut off after 20 minutes, but, I've never had my PC turn off unless I shut it down myself.
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Re: Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

Dyre I have set all 3 of those Balanced, Power Saver and High Performance and then adjusted the "change plan settings" to:

Turn off the display - Never
Put Computer to sleep - Never

I even created a custom power plan called My Custom Plan 1 as mkk suggested and set it to both "never". Two reboots yesterday and bang its set to 15 and 20 again. Is is possible something in the BIOS is forcing this? I can't really see that happening but who knows
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Re: Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

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Dyre I have set all 3 of those Balanced, Power Saver and High Performance and then adjusted the "change plan settings" to:

Turn off the display - Never
Put Computer to sleep - Never

I even created a custom power plan called My Custom Plan 1 as mkk suggested and set it to both "never". Two reboots yesterday and bang its set to 15 and 20 again. Is is possible something in the BIOS is forcing this? I can't really see that happening but who knows
All I can say is that it's possible. BIOS settings would normally override Windows settings.

Just another thought: If these were reboots due to errors, or a system crash, I could see the possibility of the system resorting to using a Restore Point to recover. And, if that R.P. is one that has these settings, then, yes, that could be it. But, these are 'normal' reboots and that doesn't seem to fit, either. But, you might try deleting previous R.P., create a new one and see if that's it at all.

Sounds like you've got a Gremlin there.


EDIT: Does CCleaner work with 64 Bit? Might see of it can clean up the Registry.

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Re: Vista X64 Ultimate power setting issue

Thanks for the feedback Dyre I run JV16 Powertools and cleaned the registry out with no change but I did some googling and reading here

My Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 BIOS has no option to shut off Suspend to ....

All it has are these two options and I think on reboot Vista is reading a flag that this system can Suspend to Ram "ACPI Suspend Type = S3(STR)". I have tried this setting and also "ACPI Suspend Type = S1(POS)" with no effect on Vista power management. From what I am going to post below Vista uses a file called "hiberfil.sys" which roughly mirrors the size of your physical RAM and in my case 4G.

Here is the procedure I found to remove Vista power management completely:

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Hibernation is a feature introduced in Windows 2000 and later in Windows XP which allows your computer to enter a sort of "deep sleep" mode - your computer's state is preserved, and it uses far less power than if you just put your computer into Standby mode. But in order to enable your system to Hibernate, Windows reserves a hidden file (c:\hiberfil.sys) which is roughly equal in size to the amount of RAM your system has. Hence if you have 2GB of RAM in your system, then you'll have a corresponding hiberfil.sys file which is roughly 2GB in size. This is perfectly fine and harmless if you plan on using the Hibernation feature and you have plenty of hard disk space to spare. On my desktop machine, however, I don't plan on using the Hibernation feature (since this system is always on as a server/workstation) and my drive space is at a premium.

Disabling the Hibernation feature in Windows XP was fairly straightforward using the Power Options in the Control Panel. It's a bit trickier in Windows Vista, though, since there's no graphical way of disabling this via the Control Panel. (Or if there is, I certainly didn't find it!)

Luckily, though, Hibernation is easy enough to disable via the command line. Here's how:
  1. Click Start (or the Windows Logo) -> All Programs -> Accessories.
  2. In this folder you will see an entry labeled Command Prompt. Right-click this entry and select "Run as administrator."
  3. At the command prompt, type "powercfg -h off" (without the quotes) and press Enter.
  4. Unfortunately there's no confirmation message to indicate whether or not you were successful. But we can confirm this for ourselves by typing "dir /a:h c:\hiberfil.sys" (again, without the quotes) and pressing Enter. If we were successful then you should get a message which says "File Not Found."
  5. Voila! We have just disabled Hibernation and freed up some disk space. But if you decide that you want to enable Hibernation later you can do so by following steps 1-3 again, but this time specify "on" instead of "off" during step 3.
Note: If you get a User Account Control dialog during any of the above steps you can simply click Continue.
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Ironic that the person posting this uses the Nick of my favorite LOTR character lol. Shown below is how you apply and confirm it is working. I also noted that the default for "Put Computer to sleep" on all the power schemes are now set to "never" by default



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EDIT: Does CCleaner work with 64 Bit? Might see of it can clean up the Registry.

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Yes it does Dyre I use it on a regular basis
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