Moving from 32 to 64 bit.

Liqourice · Feb 15, 2009, 11:56 AM

Hi!

Got myself a shiny new laptop yesterday with 4 GB ram and so on. Though, to my despair I saw it had 32 bit Vista installed, something I don't clearly understand why.

My question is now if I can install a 64 bit version of the same Home Premium and still have a legal license? I want to do this as quickly as possible before I install to much software....

nicnik · Feb 15, 2009, 12:23 PM

Your key should work for 32 and 64 bit. But i'm not entirely sure how it works if you have an OEM key as I've never tried that.

Mac Daddy · Feb 15, 2009, 01:19 PM

It should be fine as nicnik mentioned but I am not sure how the OEM key works either. I have an OEM key for XP Home on a Dell system I bought a few years back and had to email MS in order to use the key again it wouldn't pass WGA ...

Chaos · Feb 15, 2009, 02:26 PM

chances are the cd wont work if it is OEM unless the 64bit key is legit, you may also have to call M$ to get activation even if it is legit if it was installed elsewhere

Liqourice · Feb 15, 2009, 02:55 PM

Hmm, I should have checked this before I bought it. I'm gonna contact Fujitsu-Siemens to begin with and see what they say.

Chaos · Feb 15, 2009, 02:59 PM

calling M$ is a very brief process takes maybe 5 min just make sure to advise then the software is only installed on current rig

mkk · Feb 15, 2009, 04:03 PM

I'd give Windows 7 a shot otherwise.

Judas · Feb 15, 2009, 07:37 PM

you cannot use a retail DVD to install using a OEM KEY.. you need an OEM DVD.

The best way to go is to grab the 64bit OEM Eddition install it useing the key that is likely on the bottom of your laptop to install.. and then either return it to whomever you got it from.... or however you can go about doing it.

Doesn't matter if you have 32bit or 64bit key, they both will work going either direction

IF you can't find someone that would be willing to loan the disc.... you HAVE to call microsoft and ask for the 64bit OEM eddition disk from them.... it's like 19 bucks or something...

Liqourice · Feb 15, 2009, 08:45 PM

If it's that cheap I could do that. But, I'm gonna ask Fujitsu-Siemens if they can send me the recovery discs with 64-bit Vista instead..

Judas · Feb 15, 2009, 09:44 PM

they likely won't.... i've yet to come across a single computer manufacturer that actually installs or has anything 64bit available, they've all used 32bit and if you install 64bit.. your support on the product drops considerably (stupid isn't it?) I've even had dell give me shit for install 64bit on one of thier machines....

nicnik · Feb 15, 2009, 10:21 PM

hmm, what about rigs with over 4 GB ram, do the manufacturers still put 32bit on them ?

Judas · Feb 15, 2009, 11:38 PM

i've yet to see a single manufacturer that provides a machine with over 4gb for the desktop market.

everything is still hovering between 1gb and 4gb

Mac Daddy · Feb 16, 2009, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liqourice

If it's that cheap I could do that. But, I'm gonna ask Fujitsu-Siemens if they can send me the recovery discs with 64-bit Vista instead..

Do so and if you have an issue pm me and I will contact them for you

nicnik · Feb 16, 2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

i've yet to see a single manufacturer that provides a machine with over 4gb for the desktop market.

everything is still hovering between 1gb and 4gb

now that u mention it, hmmm....

Liqourice · Feb 27, 2009, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

Do so and if you have an issue pm me and I will contact them for you

No luck so far. Emailed them over a week ago and no response at all...

Mac Daddy · Feb 27, 2009, 12:52 PM

Hmmm well it's Friday and off to work here shortly let me know if you want me to give it a shot Bro. If so PM me an email addy so I can CC the email to you.

(Include any info etc for me to include)

Liqourice · Feb 28, 2009, 05:51 PM

How does vista 32 handle 4 GB? Is it like with XP 32 or can Vista 32 make full use of all 4 GB?

Judas · Feb 28, 2009, 06:01 PM

With the use of a "fix" that's built into it.. it "can" address the full 4gb.... but your much better off with 64bit...

Liqourice · Feb 28, 2009, 08:24 PM

I'm just wondering since they delivered the laptop with 32 bit and 4 GB. I'm gonna go 64 bit but I was merely curious. If it had been the same as with XP I would have wondered why they even bothered putting 4 gigs init..

Mr cairo · Feb 28, 2009, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

With the use of a "fix" that's built into it.. it "can" address the full 4gb

Hey Judas what fix is that ?

Judas · Feb 28, 2009, 11:33 PM

another quick google search..

How to Enable More Than 3.5 GB of Memory in 32-Bit Windows Vista | Vista Rewired

it's PAE which essentially allows vista 32bit to address the additional space at quite often... the cost of performance. (i find it more counter productive then anything)

Sometimes it works for some people and sometimes it doesn't for others.. mixed reports.. i've gotten it to work everytime so long as the hardware itself is capable of it. generally any 64bit hardware system will work out of the box with it... but i haven't bothered with any system that is strickly 32bit.

Feb 15, 2009, 11:56 AM	#1
Liqourice HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,724 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Moving from 32 to 64 bit. Hi! Got myself a shiny new laptop yesterday with 4 GB ram and so on. Though, to my despair I saw it had 32 bit Vista installed, something I don't clearly understand why. My question is now if I can install a 64 bit version of the same Home Premium and still have a legal license? I want to do this as quickly as possible before I install to much software....

Feb 15, 2009, 12:23 PM	#2
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. Your key should work for 32 and 64 bit. But i'm not entirely sure how it works if you have an OEM key as I've never tried that. __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV Last edited by nicnik; Feb 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM.

Feb 15, 2009, 01:19 PM	#3
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 80 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. It should be fine as nicnik mentioned but I am not sure how the OEM key works either. I have an OEM key for XP Home on a Dell system I bought a few years back and had to email MS in order to use the key again it wouldn't pass WGA ... __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Feb 15, 2009, 02:26 PM	#4
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. chances are the cd wont work if it is OEM unless the 64bit key is legit, you may also have to call M$ to get activation even if it is legit if it was installed elsewhere

Feb 15, 2009, 02:55 PM	Thread Starter #5
Liqourice HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,724 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. Hmm, I should have checked this before I bought it. I'm gonna contact Fujitsu-Siemens to begin with and see what they say.

Feb 15, 2009, 02:59 PM	#6
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. calling M$ is a very brief process takes maybe 5 min just make sure to advise then the software is only installed on current rig

Feb 15, 2009, 04:03 PM	#7
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. I'd give Windows 7 a shot otherwise.

Feb 15, 2009, 08:45 PM	Thread Starter #9
Liqourice HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,724 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. If it's that cheap I could do that. But, I'm gonna ask Fujitsu-Siemens if they can send me the recovery discs with 64-bit Vista instead..

Feb 15, 2009, 10:21 PM	#11
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. hmm, what about rigs with over 4 GB ram, do the manufacturers still put 32bit on them ? __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

Feb 27, 2009, 12:52 PM	#16
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 80 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. Hmmm well it's Friday and off to work here shortly let me know if you want me to give it a shot Bro. If so PM me an email addy so I can CC the email to you. (Include any info etc for me to include) __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Feb 28, 2009, 05:51 PM	Thread Starter #17
Liqourice HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,724 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. How does vista 32 handle 4 GB? Is it like with XP 32 or can Vista 32 make full use of all 4 GB?

Feb 28, 2009, 08:24 PM	Thread Starter #19
Liqourice HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,724 Rep Power: 98 System Specs	Re: Moving from 32 to 64 bit. I'm just wondering since they delivered the laptop with 32 bit and 4 GB. I'm gonna go 64 bit but I was merely curious. If it had been the same as with XP I would have wondered why they even bothered putting 4 gigs init..