Something seriously wrong with my computer...

isaak · Oct 20, 2009, 11:45 AM

I finally got around to reinstall vista as it was acting up a bit. A seemless reinstall - nothing happened which is good. First impressions were that it was running snappier...until after about an hour of use my internet would just STOP working (ie. no pages would load). This freaked me out even more because after this happened I couldn't even open any internet browsers (tried mozilla and IE8), they would open in the "processes" section of ctrl + alt + dlt, but nothing would show, let alone load the pages... WTF

The only fix to this is to restart my computer every hour...

Could this be a problem with the reinstall? it never happened before.

PS its vista home edition 64bit

~~CitySlicker~~ · Oct 20, 2009, 11:50 AM

do a memory test (memtest86+) and see what's the result is - 1 lap usually is sufficient!
looks like you gotta hardware issue and this is not going away with an fresh install.

isaak · Oct 20, 2009, 12:08 PM

cheers for the snappy reply

i am installing software to create the .iso cd now, and i will post back after the tests.

isaak · Oct 21, 2009, 10:31 AM

Ok well memtest didnt do anything (literally) i started it up and it went to 7% complete and time 00:00:04. left it overnight and the same screen was there...

I then tried lowering my overclock back to normal (2.66) and the same problem occured. I am now trying a different set of ram ( 4GB Kingston HyperX 1066mhz) as opposed to my old ram (6GB Team Dark 800mhz).

We'll see how it goes.

~~CitySlicker~~ · Oct 22, 2009, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isaak

Ok well memtest didnt do anything (literally) i started it up and it went to 7% complete and time 00:00:04. left it overnight and the same screen was there...

4gig ram test completes in around 30 minutes - overclocks are bad for system stability.

sorry for being late but this forum seems to have issues with sending out post notifications - I hardly ever get one....

**kris23** · Oct 22, 2009, 04:47 AM

bad memory causes the stuff you described...

hopefully the new RAM holds...

isaak · Oct 22, 2009, 08:29 AM

Yup the new 4GB is going well...what would be the problem with the old RAM? I have now put it into my sisters computer and will let her test it and if anything arises I guess i'll have to buy more.

thanks for the input guys

isaak · Oct 22, 2009, 10:48 AM

UPDATE: its happened again with the new ram. help! it always happens after around an hour and 10mins of uptime...just stops loading pages, causes computer to lag in general, and then I can't open up any browsers at all

SeraphicSorcerer · Oct 22, 2009, 03:13 PM

Could it be a North bridge voltage problem?
I am not sure, but to me it sounds like a voltage problem, or psu problem.

the IMC isnt getting enough juice, the processor itself isnt getting enough juice, or the memory pass through (north bridge) isnt getting enough juice.

Happened to me MANY times, while trying to find the lowest voltage and offsets for my rigs, However I also use AMD. You're on intel, I have no idea if overclocking is cross regerencable between them, but voltage is a constant.

**kris23** · Oct 23, 2009, 02:31 AM

HDD does it too but im not sure how to test it...... a utility from your HDD company may tell you something

SeraphicSorcerer · Oct 23, 2009, 03:43 AM

A Bad hard drive can do it too, but he should be getting some form of smart warning if its failing....

~~CitySlicker~~ · Oct 23, 2009, 04:08 AM

Do the ram test again - does it freeze again?

if so you gotta bad sys board provided no overclock and temperatures are all in range.

isaak · Oct 23, 2009, 09:12 AM

Ok I will be sure to try the test again.
@seraphic, my clocks have all been lowered to stock settings but it still happens.

Tipstaff · Oct 23, 2009, 01:24 PM

Given that the board uses a Marvell 88E056 Gigabit Ethernet chip, have you tried Marvell's updated drivers? The ones Asus supplies for that board on their site are really really old.

They don't allow direct linking, so to get the updated drivers head to THIS page on Marvell's site.

Another way to get a more updated driver is to change Windows update to allow searching for other updates, and a more updated Marvell driver will show up for you to download.

isaak · Oct 25, 2009, 02:51 AM

I installed the drivers that came with my motherboard cd, but that caused my computer to blue screen to "IRQL_not_less_or_equal" error. I found out this was to do with faulty drivers...

I am downloading the latest drivers as we speak.

I have also done a fair bit of research on this, and it seems the problem is relativley common, but no one has found a proper fix for it. I'm thinking about just going out and buying windows 7 and starting again.

isaak · Oct 25, 2009, 03:55 AM

I have now been online for 1hr 30mins...so far so good. I am downloading a 3gb file though, and I am thinking this is the reason why it is still online. Other people with the problem seemed to think that by downloading something or playing a game it keeps the port open so everything can access the internet, whereas when you go to start a new internet session the port is closed and will not be opened until a reboot.

It could also be that the new marvell drivers fixed it. time will tell. in the meantime, thank you all veery much for your replies, some rep can be found in this thread from me

Tipstaff · Oct 25, 2009, 06:18 AM

I hope it holds up for you.

Doupsey · Apr 20, 2011, 06:41 AM

exect this problem was also with my older pc then I was stop working with that and bought a laptop of HP and then another one of toshiba.

shaman9876 · Apr 20, 2011, 02:38 PM

When you cannot get to the internet do you still have access to your local network? If so then it is probably the Vista / windows 7 autotuning not being compatible with your router. I have had this issue on 2 machines of mine. One windows 7 alienware laptop and a HP desktop with Vista. The fix is to disable autotuning Per Microsoft's site Network connectivity fails when you try to use Windows Vista behind a firewall device they have a manual way to fix it and their "Fix it For me" app.

Auto Tuning - TCP/IP receive level - Vista Forums
Here is another way to do it. Which also shows the steps to revert it.

I know you guy's think it may be hardware related, but try this software fix. You might be surprised.

Hope this helps

Tyrsonswood · Apr 20, 2011, 03:35 PM

Holy thread resurrection, Batman!!!

shaman9876 · Apr 20, 2011, 03:37 PM

Opps did not see the date LOL

Tyrsonswood · Apr 20, 2011, 04:33 PM

It's okay, Man.... I figured as such.

isaak · Apr 20, 2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Holy thread resurrection, Batman!!!

Yep

**MIG-31** · Apr 20, 2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isaak

Yep

In that case Closed

Oct 20, 2009, 11:45 AM	#1
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Something seriously wrong with my computer... I finally got around to reinstall vista as it was acting up a bit. A seemless reinstall - nothing happened which is good. First impressions were that it was running snappier...until after about an hour of use my internet would just STOP working (ie. no pages would load). This freaked me out even more because after this happened I couldn't even open any internet browsers (tried mozilla and IE8), they would open in the "processes" section of ctrl + alt + dlt, but nothing would show, let alone load the pages... WTF The only fix to this is to restart my computer every hour... Could this be a problem with the reinstall? it never happened before. PS its vista home edition 64bit

Oct 20, 2009, 11:50 AM	#2
~~CitySlicker~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 183 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... do a memory test (memtest86+) and see what's the result is - 1 lap usually is sufficient! looks like you gotta hardware issue and this is not going away with an fresh install.

Oct 20, 2009, 12:08 PM	Thread Starter #3
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... cheers for the snappy reply i am installing software to create the .iso cd now, and i will post back after the tests.

Oct 21, 2009, 10:31 AM	Thread Starter #4
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... Ok well memtest didnt do anything (literally) i started it up and it went to 7% complete and time 00:00:04. left it overnight and the same screen was there... I then tried lowering my overclock back to normal (2.66) and the same problem occured. I am now trying a different set of ram ( 4GB Kingston HyperX 1066mhz) as opposed to my old ram (6GB Team Dark 800mhz). We'll see how it goes.

Oct 22, 2009, 04:47 AM	#6
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... bad memory causes the stuff you described... hopefully the new RAM holds... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Oct 22, 2009, 08:29 AM	Thread Starter #7
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... Yup the new 4GB is going well...what would be the problem with the old RAM? I have now put it into my sisters computer and will let her test it and if anything arises I guess i'll have to buy more. thanks for the input guys

Oct 22, 2009, 10:48 AM	Thread Starter #8
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... UPDATE: its happened again with the new ram. help! it always happens after around an hour and 10mins of uptime...just stops loading pages, causes computer to lag in general, and then I can't open up any browsers at all

Oct 22, 2009, 03:13 PM	#9
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 154 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... Could it be a North bridge voltage problem? I am not sure, but to me it sounds like a voltage problem, or psu problem. the IMC isnt getting enough juice, the processor itself isnt getting enough juice, or the memory pass through (north bridge) isnt getting enough juice. Happened to me MANY times, while trying to find the lowest voltage and offsets for my rigs, However I also use AMD. You're on intel, I have no idea if overclocking is cross regerencable between them, but voltage is a constant. __________________

Oct 23, 2009, 02:31 AM	#10
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... HDD does it too but im not sure how to test it...... a utility from your HDD company may tell you something __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Oct 23, 2009, 03:43 AM	#11
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 154 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... A Bad hard drive can do it too, but he should be getting some form of smart warning if its failing.... __________________

Oct 23, 2009, 04:08 AM	#12
~~CitySlicker~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 183 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... Do the ram test again - does it freeze again? if so you gotta bad sys board provided no overclock and temperatures are all in range.

Oct 23, 2009, 09:12 AM	Thread Starter #13
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... Ok I will be sure to try the test again. @seraphic, my clocks have all been lowered to stock settings but it still happens.

Oct 23, 2009, 01:24 PM	#14
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,658 Rep Power: 187 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... Given that the board uses a Marvell 88E056 Gigabit Ethernet chip, have you tried Marvell's updated drivers? The ones Asus supplies for that board on their site are really really old. They don't allow direct linking, so to get the updated drivers head to THIS page on Marvell's site. Another way to get a more updated driver is to change Windows update to allow searching for other updates, and a more updated Marvell driver will show up for you to download. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Oct 25, 2009, 02:51 AM	Thread Starter #15
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... I installed the drivers that came with my motherboard cd, but that caused my computer to blue screen to "IRQL_not_less_or_equal" error. I found out this was to do with faulty drivers... I am downloading the latest drivers as we speak. I have also done a fair bit of research on this, and it seems the problem is relativley common, but no one has found a proper fix for it. I'm thinking about just going out and buying windows 7 and starting again.

Oct 25, 2009, 03:55 AM	Thread Starter #16
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... I have now been online for 1hr 30mins...so far so good. I am downloading a 3gb file though, and I am thinking this is the reason why it is still online. Other people with the problem seemed to think that by downloading something or playing a game it keeps the port open so everything can access the internet, whereas when you go to start a new internet session the port is closed and will not be opened until a reboot. It could also be that the new marvell drivers fixed it. time will tell. in the meantime, thank you all veery much for your replies, some rep can be found in this thread from me

Oct 25, 2009, 06:18 AM	#17
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,658 Rep Power: 187 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... I hope it holds up for you. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Apr 20, 2011, 06:41 AM	#18
Doupsey HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... exect this problem was also with my older pc then I was stop working with that and bought a laptop of HP and then another one of toshiba.

Apr 20, 2011, 02:38 PM	#19
shaman9876 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA, WI Posts: 80 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... When you cannot get to the internet do you still have access to your local network? If so then it is probably the Vista / windows 7 autotuning not being compatible with your router. I have had this issue on 2 machines of mine. One windows 7 alienware laptop and a HP desktop with Vista. The fix is to disable autotuning Per Microsoft's site Network connectivity fails when you try to use Windows Vista behind a firewall device they have a manual way to fix it and their "Fix it For me" app. Auto Tuning - TCP/IP receive level - Vista Forums Here is another way to do it. Which also shows the steps to revert it. I know you guy's think it may be hardware related, but try this software fix. You might be surprised. Hope this helps

Apr 20, 2011, 03:37 PM	#21
shaman9876 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA, WI Posts: 80 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Re: Something seriously wrong with my computer... Opps did not see the date LOL