Microsoft Vista means you need new monitors

daRk_heLmet · Aug 3, 2005, 05:19 PM

"According to a US tech consultant Stephen Speicher, Vista will make protected digital content all fuzzy unless it is viewed on high bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) compatible monitor.

You can read all about current Volish thinking on the standard here, while Speicher’s interview with the Sydney Morning Herald can be found here."
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Demigod · Aug 3, 2005, 05:27 PM

Its the same with every hdtv. unless it supports hdmi bluray and HDdvd will downsample their content.

Necrosis · Aug 3, 2005, 05:31 PM

First off this is from the Inquirer, and secondly the more I know about "Vista" the less I want it.

Poppi · Aug 3, 2005, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

...secondly the more I know about "Vista" the less I want it.

Seconded...

Mazuko · Aug 3, 2005, 05:56 PM

If no one trusts the inquirer why do we keep posting news from them?

Dark Lord · Aug 3, 2005, 05:57 PM

because for some reason, the inquirer tends to get it right some how.

Zardon · Aug 3, 2005, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazuko

If no one trusts the inquirer why do we keep posting news from them?

Makes for good rumour mill conversation I guess, most people know the majority of what they publish is nonsense anyway, but sometimes they have a gem or two hidden in the crap.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 3, 2005, 06:03 PM

Windows Vista: $399
New Monitor: $599
New Graphics Card: $499

Knowing that upgrading your old machine just cost you more then a new Dell with all the same crap: Priceless

daRk_heLmet · Aug 3, 2005, 06:30 PM

you guys didnt see the link in that text, I purposely posted those, for I know Inquirer is a rumor central

but they tend to get it right most of the time

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000143050582/

Vampyromaniac · Aug 7, 2005, 07:19 PM

This only concerns protected HD-DVD/Bluray content, I believe. I wouldn't be surprised if HD-DVD/Bluray-ROM drives ended up shipping with an additional HDCP adapter to connect to your DVI monitor. Otherwise, there'd be almost no market for those drives.
Also, if your computer has component-video-out, this doesn't apply to you; it will display normally. Similarly, if you're concerned about HDTV content, simply use the compnent connectors from your receiver.

BWX · Aug 7, 2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis
...secondly the more I know about "Vista" the less I want it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poppi

Seconded...

Thirded.

mike2h · Aug 7, 2005, 07:42 PM

a lot of people said the same about xp, look were we are now. i think xp is pretty damn good.
that said, i will not go any where near 'vista' until sp1. at a minimum.

Zardon · Aug 7, 2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2h

i will not go any where near 'vista' until sp1. at a minimum.

Probably a wise move, especially with "mission critical" machines.

BWX · Aug 7, 2005, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2h

a lot of people said the same about xp, look were we are now. i think xp is pretty damn good.
that said, i will not go any where near 'vista' until sp1. at a minimum.

Vista seems like more of a plot to lock content of all kinds than anything else.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 7, 2005, 09:07 PM

I for one, am one who is eager on Vista (although i still don't like the name

). The reason i guess is mainly because i am a sucker for eye candy

studbagel9 · Aug 8, 2005, 03:30 AM

gah, trustworthy computing is like, 1984 all over again.

Mayro · Aug 8, 2005, 03:37 AM

I wouldnt worry about the crappy DRM protection that will be added to vista. Even if microsuck adds such a thing to Vista, it will only hurt the few end users who dont know what GOOGLE is.... For some reason, alot of websites have been releaseing information "CNET and others" on how to get around the authentication check for windows update... If major sites like those are listing information like that, the common people will get the update for vista that they are looking for....

Quite frankly, I dont care how bad microsuck thinks that they can mess with the code for vista... As long as we have those kick arse german programmers that just love the whole hacking experiance, we will get a version of vista that doesnt suck... (Legaly bought version with modded files ofcouse....)

Skyfire · Aug 12, 2005, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

I for one, am one who is eager on Vista (although i still don't like the name

). The reason i guess is mainly because i am a sucker for eye candy

Keep in mind, that all that "eye candy" you are waiting for...if its games at least, wont be seen for a few years after Vista is out.

Think about it...it took years for game developers to make games that had PARTIAL directX 9.0 components, and another year or two until there were less than a handful of games that have full directx 9.0 shaders, coding, etc.

How long do you think it will be until directX 10 will be in games with even partial compatability, let alone completely coded with directx10 effects, or whatever it is that directx does

Just my 2 cents

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Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	I wouldnt worry about the crappy DRM protection that will be added to vista. Even if microsuck adds such a thing to Vista, it will only hurt the few end users who dont know what GOOGLE is.... For some reason, alot of websites have been releaseing information "CNET and others" on how to get around the authentication check for windows update... If major sites like those are listing information like that, the common people will get the update for vista that they are looking for.... Quite frankly, I dont care how bad microsuck thinks that they can mess with the code for vista... As long as we have those kick arse german programmers that just love the whole hacking experiance, we will get a version of vista that doesnt suck... (Legaly bought version with modded files ofcouse....)