help!! windows cannot pick up the 250g Sata

benw1981 · Apr 28, 2006, 02:08 PM

mmm i dont have any of those i only have standards.
I tried to email biostar b4 but i need to fill in some requirements about the specs and i cant remember wot they r like wot brand of ram and wot type of bios and the date. stuff like that i guess i could just put anything in there but i dont no if it will work

PangingJr · Apr 28, 2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PangingJr

you 'might' need to force the new Seagate 250 GB ST3250824AS drives to 1.5Gb/s mode.

so, in the mean time i like you to check with Seagate tech supports, either email them at DiscSupport@seagate.com (or fill in the form at http://www.seagate.com/support), or call them on the phone. ask them where you can get the jumper for your ST3250824AS drives,
since the jumper is not come with the drives, and give them reason that you want to force the ST3250824AS drives to 1.5Gb/s mode.

if you have problem with that talk to Seagate tech supports instead.

PangingJr · Apr 29, 2006, 07:30 AM

to tell you the truth, i've never used or seen your motherboard before, never used any of the Via chipset motherboard.
what i've been answering to your questions here are just a basic knowledge of BIOS setup program, hardware and Windows.
i tried to have the BIOS and hardware configuration setups correctly to match with your installed Windows. but all of these seems to me that i cannot help you.

in order for me to help you (which i was hoping to have all of the problems solved), you must help me.
you must response to All of the advices that have been giving to you earlier by others and myself.

i knew you've been giving this a try for 2-3 days now. if you have done like i just mentioned above, i'm sure at lease all of the problems should be fixed by now (it won't take this long), or at lease you should already recieved a clear answer to every questions that you have on the problems, so that, you can decide on what to do with the computer system. and as i can see here, you're still have some options on what you should or shouldn't do with the computer system.

benw1981 · Apr 30, 2006, 02:34 AM

i have called up and told them the situation and that the motherboard sata is 1.5 and the HDD is 3.0 and about the jumper forcing it to 1.5 he said that u shouldnt do that because it may cause some damage to the HDD and the M/B.

I mean y have pins there if they r not going to be used!? he said that we've pretty much covered all the bases that he wouldve gone through himself.

I have learned more about sata through this and didnt even now about the 1.5 and 3.0 so its kinda my problem that i bought them without checking this stuff out b4hand.

so i can either take it back and try n get a sata 1 or just put the sata in my other computer and take out the 200g HDD IDE and whack that instead.
Seems a bit weird though the computer that doesnt like it is about 3-4 months old and i bought it as a package at a comp store so they mustve put in a cheap M/B that wouldve just done the job and plus dont no how long the 3.0Gb p/s have been out.

PangingJr · Apr 30, 2006, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benw1981

i have called up and told them the situation and that the motherboard sata is 1.5 and the HDD is 3.0 and about the jumper forcing it to 1.5 he said that u shouldnt do that because it may cause some damage to the HDD and the M/B.

I mean y have pins there if they r not going to be used!? he said that we've pretty much covered all the bases that he wouldve gone through himself.

well, if that's what the 'Seagate tech supports' told you then the Seagate SATA II hard drive is not for your motherboard at all. then you have to pick one of the avilable options you mentioned above.

benw1981 · Apr 30, 2006, 07:31 AM

yeah well at the moment looks like i will have to use the IDE instead as i am a bit poor at the moment.
All bills n crap like that. Sucks really but thats the way it is.

Well thankx very much for all ur help i have learnt more because of it too!

Um going back to the question about the backup issue....I am using Paragon Drive Backup but i dont no if that has the option to only backup files and folders that i want to backup.
I spose its good to backup all of it but even if i just backed up the things that i needed Eg files and Music then i can just put that back on with a fresh windows installation.

Falstaff · Apr 30, 2006, 11:21 AM

When all else fails mate....
take it to the shop....

PangingJr · Apr 30, 2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benw1981

yeah well at the moment looks like i will have to use the IDE instead as i am a bit poor at the moment.
All bills n crap like that. Sucks really but thats the way it is.

Well thankx very much for all ur help i have learnt more because of it too!

Um going back to the question about the backup issue....I am using Paragon Drive Backup but i dont no if that has the option to only backup files and folders that i want to backup.
I spose its good to backup all of it but even if i just backed up the things that i needed Eg files and Music then i can just put that back on with a fresh windows installation.

i just knew of other cases, one of them is a friend of mine who have used many of the Seagate 7200.9 SATA 3.0Gb/s models on an older Intel chipset motherboards which they do not have SATA II controllers on them, he used to tell me that he had some problems with booting, but not anymore after he installed the jumper pins on the drives. he has been using the jumper pins to preset the hard drives to SATA 1.5Gb/s mode for months now. he said his motherboards's maker had recommended that he must use the jumper...

but in your case you must take the Seagate tech supports's words, noone knows any better about the Seagate drives than the Seagate tech supports themselves.

as for the Drive Backup, this software program is not designed for making backups on an individual files. however, you can recover individual files after you have already created a full disk or partition backup image. you can export any file from the backup image either by mounting the image with a drive latter or by using its image/partition explorer program.

benw1981 · May 1, 2006, 09:39 AM

ok cool thankx for that just going through my mp3's which r totally screwed!
they are either different songs or just random songs all into one or just static noise for a while.

PangingJr · May 1, 2006, 01:16 PM

No problem benw1981.

StuBee9541 · May 7, 2006, 12:43 AM

I had the same problem with a WD SATA drive using the same MBd. I went through the trouble of updating my BIOS and ALL my drivers with no apparent improvement.

When I set the drive jumper to the 150MB/s data transfer rate configuration...Eureka!

The BIOS recognized the drive and I was able to move forward (I'm configuring and copying data right now). I saw this drive online for about $90... a decent buy in my book. I am setting this up as my boot drive and will be repartitioning my other drive. I'm not sure how much faster this drive will be (disappointed that I had to drop the data XFer rate by half...), but it should serve the purpose. I don't have much experience with the Seagate SATA drives (in fact this is my first SATA install...its been a learning experience to say the least). I set the BIOS to "Enable" the SATA drive controller and the SATA mode to "IDE". You shouldn't have to remove your other drives.

My System specs are: Biostar P4M80-M7 MBd , 1.5G RAM, Seagate 160G IDE, WD 250G SATA, DVD +/-RW 16X and NVIDIA QuadroPro2 AGP 4x(older bd but high end for it's time..got a good deal on it).

Not too sure about the Seagate drive configurability... try to configure the Seagate to the 150MB/s transfer rate (if possible w-out damage to the drive) ... otherwise, if you can, return it and go with the WD drive, then you can at least get the thing working for you.

I ran this gauntlet for the last 3 weeks trying to get this this to work.

I found your posts today as I FINALLY got results! I hope this is helpful...and good Luck with it!

PangingJr · May 7, 2006, 03:26 AM

what is Eureka!?

e v o · May 13, 2006, 01:40 AM

Used to express triumph upon finding or discovering something.

Apr 30, 2006, 11:21 AM	#67
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May 13, 2006, 01:40 AM	#73
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Apr 28, 2006, 02:08 PM	Thread Starter #61
benw1981 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 108 Rep Power: 0	mmm i dont have any of those i only have standards. I tried to email biostar b4 but i need to fill in some requirements about the specs and i cant remember wot they r like wot brand of ram and wot type of bios and the date. stuff like that i guess i could just put anything in there but i dont no if it will work

Apr 29, 2006, 07:30 AM	#63
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	to tell you the truth, i've never used or seen your motherboard before, never used any of the Via chipset motherboard. what i've been answering to your questions here are just a basic knowledge of BIOS setup program, hardware and Windows. i tried to have the BIOS and hardware configuration setups correctly to match with your installed Windows. but all of these seems to me that i cannot help you. in order for me to help you (which i was hoping to have all of the problems solved), you must help me. you must response to All of the advices that have been giving to you earlier by others and myself. i knew you've been giving this a try for 2-3 days now. if you have done like i just mentioned above, i'm sure at lease all of the problems should be fixed by now (it won't take this long), or at lease you should already recieved a clear answer to every questions that you have on the problems, so that, you can decide on what to do with the computer system. and as i can see here, you're still have some options on what you should or shouldn't do with the computer system.

Apr 30, 2006, 02:34 AM	Thread Starter #64
benw1981 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 108 Rep Power: 0	i have called up and told them the situation and that the motherboard sata is 1.5 and the HDD is 3.0 and about the jumper forcing it to 1.5 he said that u shouldnt do that because it may cause some damage to the HDD and the M/B. I mean y have pins there if they r not going to be used!? he said that we've pretty much covered all the bases that he wouldve gone through himself. I have learned more about sata through this and didnt even now about the 1.5 and 3.0 so its kinda my problem that i bought them without checking this stuff out b4hand. so i can either take it back and try n get a sata 1 or just put the sata in my other computer and take out the 200g HDD IDE and whack that instead. Seems a bit weird though the computer that doesnt like it is about 3-4 months old and i bought it as a package at a comp store so they mustve put in a cheap M/B that wouldve just done the job and plus dont no how long the 3.0Gb p/s have been out.

Apr 30, 2006, 07:31 AM	Thread Starter #66
benw1981 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 108 Rep Power: 0	yeah well at the moment looks like i will have to use the IDE instead as i am a bit poor at the moment. All bills n crap like that. Sucks really but thats the way it is. Well thankx very much for all ur help i have learnt more because of it too! Um going back to the question about the backup issue....I am using Paragon Drive Backup but i dont no if that has the option to only backup files and folders that i want to backup. I spose its good to backup all of it but even if i just backed up the things that i needed Eg files and Music then i can just put that back on with a fresh windows installation.

May 1, 2006, 09:39 AM	Thread Starter #69
benw1981 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 108 Rep Power: 0	ok cool thankx for that just going through my mp3's which r totally screwed! they are either different songs or just random songs all into one or just static noise for a while.

May 1, 2006, 01:16 PM	#70
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	No problem benw1981.

May 7, 2006, 12:43 AM	#71
StuBee9541 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I had the same problem with a WD SATA drive using the same MBd. I went through the trouble of updating my BIOS and ALL my drivers with no apparent improvement. When I set the drive jumper to the 150MB/s data transfer rate configuration...Eureka! The BIOS recognized the drive and I was able to move forward (I'm configuring and copying data right now). I saw this drive online for about $90... a decent buy in my book. I am setting this up as my boot drive and will be repartitioning my other drive. I'm not sure how much faster this drive will be (disappointed that I had to drop the data XFer rate by half...), but it should serve the purpose. I don't have much experience with the Seagate SATA drives (in fact this is my first SATA install...its been a learning experience to say the least). I set the BIOS to "Enable" the SATA drive controller and the SATA mode to "IDE". You shouldn't have to remove your other drives. My System specs are: Biostar P4M80-M7 MBd , 1.5G RAM, Seagate 160G IDE, WD 250G SATA, DVD +/-RW 16X and NVIDIA QuadroPro2 AGP 4x(older bd but high end for it's time..got a good deal on it). Not too sure about the Seagate drive configurability... try to configure the Seagate to the 150MB/s transfer rate (if possible w-out damage to the drive) ... otherwise, if you can, return it and go with the WD drive, then you can at least get the thing working for you. I ran this gauntlet for the last 3 weeks trying to get this this to work. I found your posts today as I FINALLY got results! I hope this is helpful...and good Luck with it!

May 7, 2006, 03:26 AM	#72
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	what is Eureka!?