EEEP! Windows98se problems! EEEP!

digitalwanderer · Feb 12, 2003, 02:49 PM

Ok, I actually feel embarressed asking for help on this but I need some help.

I'm not sure quite how, but I hosed-up me 98se install on Bubbles. Everytime I try and boot into her 98 partition it'll go thru the boot-up all the way thru the windows drivers loading, then she'll re-boot and do it again forever until I shut her down or boot into XP.

On the brightside, I'm getting me XP partition back in shape...but I'd really like to fix me 98se partition. I've tried a LOT of sh!t, I can boot into 98se in safemode and I tried disabling most of the loading stuff, looking for any bad run commands, etc...but no avail.

Anyone have any advice on how to proceed with this one? I REALLY don't want to re-install 98se on her right now as I'd lose me XP partition too and I just ain't got the time to play with it right now...but I sort of count on 98se on her so I NEED it.

Vampyromaniac · Feb 13, 2003, 04:26 AM

What is in your autoexec.bat and config.sys? and msdos.sys?

digitalwanderer · Feb 13, 2003, 05:13 AM

Nothing, nothing, and:

Quote:

;FORMAT
[Paths]
WinDir=C:\WINDOWS
WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS
HostWinBootDrv=C

[Options]
BootMulti=1
BootGUI=1
DoubleBuffer=1
AutoScan=1
WinVer=4.10.2222
;
;The following lines are required for compatibility with other programs.
;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be >1024 bytes).
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxa
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxb
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxc
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxe
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxf
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxg
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxh
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxj
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxk
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxm
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxn
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxo
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxp
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxq
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxr
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxs
BootMenu=1
BootMenuDelay=2
BootWarn=0
DrvSpace=0
DblSpace=0

I'm clueless.

Vampyromaniac · Feb 13, 2003, 05:26 AM

Hmm wow ok . . . I was really thinking it would be something there

Can you boot in logged mode, and maybe check that out?
I dunno . . .

EDIT: Ahh, or add Logo=0 to msdos.sys, and boot up and see what's the last thing on the screen before it reboots?
. . . or try step-by-step confirmation mode . . .

digitalwanderer · Feb 13, 2003, 05:36 AM

I tried that. It loads up the windows drivers thru msmouse.vxd (or whatever) then goes into it's re-boot.

Nothing in any start-up files or locations like that either in the registry.

Vampyromaniac · Feb 13, 2003, 07:56 AM

Hmm boot up with case open and see if everythings spinnin fine? the fans lol

nieves · Feb 13, 2003, 10:16 AM

You don't *have* to lose your XP partition if you reinstall '98SE. As long as you don't format it

You can safely format the '98SE partition and then boot from the XP install CD. It will detect your XP partition and offer to repair it, that means writing in boot.ini the required line to set up the XP partition and the ntldr file which loads the nt type partition at boot. It's a safe procedure, I've done it several times. Win2K (and XP, for that matter) have good recovery procedures as long as you have the boot cd and (sometimes, required for other stuff) knowledge of recovery options provided by the magical F8 key

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Nieves

Quote:

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digitalwanderer · Feb 13, 2003, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
Hmm boot up with case open and see if everythings spinnin fine? the fans lol

Nope, I haven't done that...but I'm writing this from her XP partition which has been behaving just spiffy since her 98se side took a dump. (I haven't booted into it since changing the viddy cards around, it took a few minutes to get me drivers straight. Points to XP, it cleaned up nice.

)

Quote:

Originally posted by nieves
You don't *have* to lose your XP partition if you reinstall '98SE. As long as you don't format it You can safely format the '98SE partition and then boot from the XP install CD. It will detect your XP partition and offer to repair it, that means writing in boot.ini the required line to set up the XP partition and the ntldr file which loads the nt type partition at boot. It's a safe procedure, I've done it several times. Win2K (and XP, for that matter) have good recovery procedures as long as you have the boot cd and (sometimes, required for other stuff) knowledge of recovery options provided by the magical F8 key

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Nieves

THANK YOU!!! I knew there was a way to do that, I just couldn't remember how. (I think I did that once...

) I'll give it a shot this afternoon.

Trik · May 15, 2003, 03:45 AM

What is ";FORMAT" doing in the MSDOS.SYS file?

Try removing that line and saving the file.
Then try to boot into 98se.

Good Luck
Trik

PS: Keep us posted.

caqde · May 17, 2003, 09:45 PM

Your going to be installing windows 98 alot on that system. 512mb ram is very bad for the windows 9x/Me line of OS's. There is some memory leak never fixed in windows dealing with having more than 384mb of ram or maybe 256mb, but 98 seems to run best with 256mb of ram.

digitalwanderer · May 17, 2003, 09:49 PM

Oh yeah, I got it fixed. Thank you all. Then I added another drive and re-installed everything anyways.

Feb 12, 2003, 02:49 PM	#1
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	EEEP! Windows98se problems! EEEP! Ok, I actually feel embarressed asking for help on this but I need some help. I'm not sure quite how, but I hosed-up me 98se install on Bubbles. Everytime I try and boot into her 98 partition it'll go thru the boot-up all the way thru the windows drivers loading, then she'll re-boot and do it again forever until I shut her down or boot into XP. On the brightside, I'm getting me XP partition back in shape...but I'd really like to fix me 98se partition. I've tried a LOT of sh!t, I can boot into 98se in safemode and I tried disabling most of the loading stuff, looking for any bad run commands, etc...but no avail. Anyone have any advice on how to proceed with this one? I REALLY don't want to re-install 98se on her right now as I'd lose me XP partition too and I just ain't got the time to play with it right now...but I sort of count on 98se on her so I NEED it. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Feb 13, 2003, 04:26 AM	#2
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	What is in your autoexec.bat and config.sys? and msdos.sys? __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Feb 13, 2003, 05:26 AM	#4
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Hmm wow ok . . . I was really thinking it would be something there Can you boot in logged mode, and maybe check that out? I dunno . . . EDIT: Ahh, or add Logo=0 to msdos.sys, and boot up and see what's the last thing on the screen before it reboots? . . . or try step-by-step confirmation mode . . . __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Feb 13, 2003, 05:36 AM	Thread Starter #5
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	I tried that. It loads up the windows drivers thru msmouse.vxd (or whatever) then goes into it's re-boot. Nothing in any start-up files or locations like that either in the registry. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Feb 13, 2003, 07:56 AM	#6
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Hmm boot up with case open and see if everythings spinnin fine? the fans lol __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

May 15, 2003, 03:45 AM	#9
Trik DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Over There ---> Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	What is ";FORMAT" doing in the MSDOS.SYS file? Try removing that line and saving the file. Then try to boot into 98se. Good Luck Trik PS: Keep us posted.

May 17, 2003, 09:45 PM	#10
caqde HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: US, IL Posts: 505 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	Your going to be installing windows 98 alot on that system. 512mb ram is very bad for the windows 9x/Me line of OS's. There is some memory leak never fixed in windows dealing with having more than 384mb of ram or maybe 256mb, but 98 seems to run best with 256mb of ram. __________________ AMD Phenom II X4 925 AM3/ Giga-byte MA790XT-UD4P XFX HD5770 1GB / 2x8GB of Geil DDR3 12800 10-10-10-28 Samsung SH-S182D DVD-RW drive / Sony Optiarc BD-5300S BD-RW drive Western Digital WD1501FASS(Primary)/Western Digital 15EADS(Secondary)/Western Digital 7500AACS(Secondary)/Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320gb(Secondary) Antec TP-550 / CoolerMaster CMStacker Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Professional / Creative Inspire 6600 6.1 speakers Samsugn T200HD 20" LCD Monitor / Logitech Internet 350 Black Keyboard Logitech MX510 Mouse

May 17, 2003, 09:49 PM	Thread Starter #11
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	And three months later... Oh yeah, I got it fixed. Thank you all. Then I added another drive and re-installed everything anyways. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?