IDE controlled harddrive question

mtsaint · Sep 2, 2006, 10:26 AM

I'm trying to install a new harddrive. i have 2 SATA Hardrives already working. I found a two older 80 gig WD barracudas lying around and decided to put one in my PC. only my pc is not detecting any new hardward i have my dvdrom drive attached as the first device which works and the barracuda attached as the second on the IDE cable im pretty sure these drives havent been used so can i get this ultra ATA drive working with SATA drives already in the machine?

CDsDontBurn · Sep 2, 2006, 10:46 AM

yes, they can work together in the same machine. have you looked at the jumper settings of the ATA HDD? because you have the optical drive as the first device in the chain, i'm assuming that it is set as "master". if so, make sure that the HDD is set to slave. then it should work no problem.

also, you might need to format the drie if it hasn't already been done so (which might be another reason why windows isn't picking up the drive). to do that, you need to go like this: right click my computer > click manage > click "disk management " on left side > when the right side displays all the drives click on the ATA drive and click "format". afterwards, the drive should be picked up b windows.

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you might want to check your system's BIOS first just to make sure it picks it up. if it doesn't check the jumper like i said first, set it to the proper location, then check your BIOS again. Once it gets picked up by the BIOS, go into windows and do that disk management thing i said.

mtsaint · Sep 2, 2006, 01:47 PM

i was afraid to use the seagate disk utility hard drive installer but went ahead and did anyway after that my barracuda shows up in the bios as well as device manager but not disk management I set the jumpers for the hard drive as master and the optical as slave, because i positioned the HD as first in the in the chain after reading that my original set up can cuase poor HD speeds in some cases only being able to read and write as fast as the optical.

Now i need to figure out a way to actually get the HD working as it shows in bios/device manger but no where else maybe i'll try a uninstall then use the device manager to re-install ihope that works.

While we are on the subject are there any good ways to optimize my HD's speed? I've made the neccessary adjustments to the bios but a little tweaking goes along way

mtsaint · Sep 2, 2006, 02:01 PM

i tried uninstalling from device manger and reebooted went into the bios and my primary masteris set as the HD and slave as optical when windows booted up is recognized the new device hence the little taskbar pop up menu but its still not showing up in disk management HUH?

CDsDontBurn · Sep 2, 2006, 02:09 PM

so basically what you're saying is that the drive shows up in your BIOS, but not in windows right? if that's the case, you just need to go to disk management and format the drive through there.

as for tweaking the drive, you have already done it by setting the drive to master

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when i get home (in about 30min.) i'll post some screenies of what my disk managment window looks like so you can compare mine to yours.

mtsaint · Sep 3, 2006, 02:24 AM

i have my bios set to RAID and that Ahct or whatever that is i tried setting to sata\pata mode but i blue screened im thinking it might be the bios instructions

Dyre Straits · Sep 3, 2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mtsaint

i have my bios set to RAID and that Ahct or whatever that is i tried setting to sata\pata mode but i blue screened im thinking it might be the bios instructions

On my IC7-G I have 2 SATA, 2 IDE HDDs, and 2 CD/DVD drives.

However, I'm not using a RAID array of any kind. Rather, I have my BIOS set to Enhanced IDE. One of the SATA drives is my system drive and both SATA drives are 160 GB drives. The other two are both 80 GB drives.

If you only have the 2 SATA drives, one CD/DVD drive, and are adding that 80 GB IDE drive, you should be able to connect it on its own ribbon using the proper ribbon cable for it and set it to either Cable Select or Master w/out Slave.

But, yes, it will need to be formatted in order to actually show up in Windows as a storage device.

mtsaint · Sep 3, 2006, 07:39 AM

i only have one IDE port so i connected the blue to the port the black to the HDD and the grey to the disk drive. I HAVE 4 sata PORTS. IF I TRY TO ADJUST

mtsaint · Sep 3, 2006, 07:42 AM

damn i dont know whathappened but this is a continuation of my post if i try to adjust my sata operation i i get BSOD. I finnally got my pc to recognize the HDD in disk manager but it says its a CDFS not a disk drive

mtsaint · Sep 3, 2006, 07:46 AM

wow somehow i have tutorial videos saved on this partition i clicked explore only to find a bunch of different tutorial saved in winamp format i do not know how this happend

mtsaint · Sep 3, 2006, 01:53 PM

HA GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY ............. i fixed and now have 74.58 gigs of extra space you want to know what it was a bad disk i used the other 80 gig barracuda i had laying around and it worked first time disk manager is formatting it as I speak. i couldnt be happier. oh and the dell service tech almost formatted my drive remotely its labeled DRV4_VOL1 (H): NTFS ACTIVE HEALTHY i put a stop to that quicker than you can say lickety split why oh why would my dell service buddy do that. thanks for you's guy's time.
now only if i had some chocolate....

Sep 2, 2006, 10:26 AM	#1
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	IDE controlled harddrive question I'm trying to install a new harddrive. i have 2 SATA Hardrives already working. I found a two older 80 gig WD barracudas lying around and decided to put one in my PC. only my pc is not detecting any new hardward i have my dvdrom drive attached as the first device which works and the barracuda attached as the second on the IDE cable im pretty sure these drives havent been used so can i get this ultra ATA drive working with SATA drives already in the machine?

Sep 2, 2006, 10:46 AM	#2
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,806 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	yes, they can work together in the same machine. have you looked at the jumper settings of the ATA HDD? because you have the optical drive as the first device in the chain, i'm assuming that it is set as "master". if so, make sure that the HDD is set to slave. then it should work no problem. also, you might need to format the drie if it hasn't already been done so (which might be another reason why windows isn't picking up the drive). to do that, you need to go like this: right click my computer > click manage > click "disk management " on left side > when the right side displays all the drives click on the ATA drive and click "format". afterwards, the drive should be picked up b windows. . you might want to check your system's BIOS first just to make sure it picks it up. if it doesn't check the jumper like i said first, set it to the proper location, then check your BIOS again. Once it gets picked up by the BIOS, go into windows and do that disk management thing i said. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 2, 2006, 02:09 PM	#5
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,806 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	so basically what you're saying is that the drive shows up in your BIOS, but not in windows right? if that's the case, you just need to go to disk management and format the drive through there. as for tweaking the drive, you have already done it by setting the drive to master . when i get home (in about 30min.) i'll post some screenies of what my disk managment window looks like so you can compare mine to yours. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 2, 2006, 01:47 PM	Thread Starter #3
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	i was afraid to use the seagate disk utility hard drive installer but went ahead and did anyway after that my barracuda shows up in the bios as well as device manager but not disk management I set the jumpers for the hard drive as master and the optical as slave, because i positioned the HD as first in the in the chain after reading that my original set up can cuase poor HD speeds in some cases only being able to read and write as fast as the optical. Now i need to figure out a way to actually get the HD working as it shows in bios/device manger but no where else maybe i'll try a uninstall then use the device manager to re-install ihope that works. While we are on the subject are there any good ways to optimize my HD's speed? I've made the neccessary adjustments to the bios but a little tweaking goes along way

Sep 2, 2006, 02:01 PM	Thread Starter #4
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	i tried uninstalling from device manger and reebooted went into the bios and my primary masteris set as the HD and slave as optical when windows booted up is recognized the new device hence the little taskbar pop up menu but its still not showing up in disk management HUH?

Sep 3, 2006, 02:24 AM	Thread Starter #6
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	i have my bios set to RAID and that Ahct or whatever that is i tried setting to sata\pata mode but i blue screened im thinking it might be the bios instructions

Sep 3, 2006, 07:39 AM	Thread Starter #8
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	i only have one IDE port so i connected the blue to the port the black to the HDD and the grey to the disk drive. I HAVE 4 sata PORTS. IF I TRY TO ADJUST

Sep 3, 2006, 07:42 AM	Thread Starter #9
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	damn i dont know whathappened but this is a continuation of my post if i try to adjust my sata operation i i get BSOD. I finnally got my pc to recognize the HDD in disk manager but it says its a CDFS not a disk drive

Sep 3, 2006, 07:46 AM	Thread Starter #10
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	wow somehow i have tutorial videos saved on this partition i clicked explore only to find a bunch of different tutorial saved in winamp format i do not know how this happend

Sep 3, 2006, 01:53 PM	Thread Starter #11
mtsaint DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	HA GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY ............. i fixed and now have 74.58 gigs of extra space you want to know what it was a bad disk i used the other 80 gig barracuda i had laying around and it worked first time disk manager is formatting it as I speak. i couldnt be happier. oh and the dell service tech almost formatted my drive remotely its labeled DRV4_VOL1 (H): NTFS ACTIVE HEALTHY i put a stop to that quicker than you can say lickety split why oh why would my dell service buddy do that. thanks for you's guy's time. now only if i had some chocolate....