Win2k Help (Again..)

Mystik · Mar 24, 2003, 11:05 AM

Hey guys..

Okay, here're my questions for win2k..

Right now, i'm using it.. on a separate hard-drive on a second
install I did (because i forgot to enable ACPI and APIC the first
time around).. and I'm quite liking Win2k right now..

BUT, there's one thing that's annoying the hell out of me..

Is there ANY way to get the pagefile to the OUTER sectors of
the harddrive? Speed Disk (which I normally used in win98)
won't touch the damn thing, and Diskeeper moves it to the
END of all the data, so right now, it's near the end of my hard-drive
on this 4.6GB i'm using to test it.. I have it permanently set to
384/384 (I was only testing my hardware to see if everything
would work, no conflicts would arise, i quite like APIC)..

I've spent the last couple of days trying to find out how to put
the pagefile to the beginning of the Hard-Drive.. if I can do that,
I'll be ready to actually move from Win98se to Win2k..

Thanks.

ToshiroOC · Mar 24, 2003, 11:13 AM

Though it sounds like it might not work for you at this point, I think that it might work to partition your hard drive with the outer sectors in a separate partition, then assigning the page file to that partition...

Mystik · Mar 24, 2003, 01:27 PM

Would that be the only way to do it? I've read about doing that
as well, but I don't like partitioning any of my hard-drives. =)

Also, i've encountered another error I can't seem to figure out.. It's
only occuring in Win2k.. Looks like "upgrading" has been set back
again.. Maybe later on today I'll try installing WinXP and seeing if
it causes the same problems..

/sigh/ if only I could find Win98se-J, i wouldn't have to try any of
these problems.. Then again, some programs I use didn't install
in my Win2k when I set it to Japanese.. =|

Blargh!

edit:
I isolated it down to my sound that's giving me problems.. Thing was,
it wasn't bothering me during the first install of Win2k that I had..
Everything is same except I enabled APIC this time.. gonna try disabling
it and reinstalling.. this is so fun.

Vampyromaniac · Mar 25, 2003, 12:11 AM

I didn't know you had to specifically enable ACPI or APIC for Win2000.
Please, what settings or command line switches are necessary to enable these? . . . as I may be buying Win2000 soon

Mystik · Mar 25, 2003, 02:19 AM

You don't have to specifically enable them, though they're
handy to have..

ACPI, you can have enabled in Win98se as well (i didn't..
for some reason.. i always wondered why my computer
would just turn off without shutting windows down first)..

APIC, you also don't have to have enabled.. but it was nice
because it really gave every peice of hardware you had it's
own IRQ (Mine went all the way up to IRQ 17)..

These are enabled via your BIOS.. and is highly recommended
that you turn them on BEFORE the install of an OS.. if you
turn them on after, you'll just cause 2k/XP to get confused and
explode on itself.. Win98se just doesn't care. =P

I've reinstalled 2k about 5 times today.. I can't seem to solve
a problem i'm getting with the 3 games (1 game = emu + roms)
in 2k..

Vampyromaniac · Mar 25, 2003, 02:23 AM

Thanks man, I did think Win2000 has them on by default. Makes sense it's a BIOS issue.

Thanks for the info

Mystik · Mar 25, 2003, 02:44 PM

No prob, glad to help. =)

Anyway, no Win2k for me..
I don't know what's causing it, but I keep getting errors in
Half-Life.. I've narrowed it down to when using A3D that the
error comes up and causes it to close.. I've reinstalled Win2k
more than 5 times in the past couple days and nothing I did
(BIOS tweaking, not installing certain things, etc., etc..) seemed
to remedy the situation..

I haven't tried installing any other games to see if it affected
them because I always go back to Half-Life in the long run.. and
if it doesn't work, then screw other games. =p

I'm still gonna try to do some testing.. I don't wanna resort to
WinXP since there are MANY things that piss me off (a couple of
things come to mind right now)..

BLargh!

Mystik · Mar 31, 2003, 07:55 PM

Okay, this is starting to seriously piss me the fuck off..

I've installed Win2k probably more times than anyone has
in a year this past month.. and I can't seem to figure out
what the hell the problem is..

If there's ANYONE out there that can offer any kind of
advice.. please do.

These are my problems..

In "Live for Speed" (and, probably any other game), after
about 10-15 minutes of play my system hard-locks. The
frame freezes on screen and the sound starts to repeat.

In "Half-Life".. clicking the mouse-button results in a a
program crash (HL.EXE has caused . . .) Of course, this only
happens with the left mouse button.. I can run around clicking
the middle mouse and right mouse button.. but as soon as I
click the left one, it crashes..

My system specs: =--
AMD Athlon XP 1700+
MSI KT3 Ultra-2
1 x 256MB Kingmax DDR333
ATi Radeon 8500le 128MB BGA
RealTEK 8139 NIC
Hercules Fortissimo II

1 LG 52x CD-ROM

The Hard-Drive i use is an old 4GB Quantum..

I've tried everything.. different configs of ACPI, APIC..
Tried moving cards around, tried using different drivers (ie non-
latest).. nothing seems to work.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 31, 2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mystik
Hey guys..

Is there ANY way to get the pagefile to the OUTER sectors of
the harddrive? Speed Disk (which I normally used in win98)
won't touch the damn thing, and Diskeeper moves it to the
END of all the data, so right now, it's near the end of my hard-drive
on this 4.6GB i'm using to test it.. I have it permanently set to
384/384 (I was only testing my hardware to see if everything
would work, no conflicts would arise, i quite like APIC)..

Thanks.

Yes, there is dowload the diskkeeper (demo

) on like kazza and run a defreg and then go into boot time drefamentation, it has option to defag the mft and move the pagefile to optumized position on next boot..... it works wonders

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 31, 2003, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mystik
Okay, this is starting to seriously piss me the fuck off..

I've installed Win2k probably more times than anyone has
in a year this past month.. and I can't seem to figure out
what the hell the problem is..

If there's ANYONE out there that can offer any kind of
advice.. please do.

These are my problems..

In "Live for Speed" (and, probably any other game), after
about 10-15 minutes of play my system hard-locks. The
frame freezes on screen and the sound starts to repeat.

In "Half-Life".. clicking the mouse-button results in a a
program crash (HL.EXE has caused . . .) Of course, this only
happens with the left mouse button.. I can run around clicking
the middle mouse and right mouse button.. but as soon as I
click the left one, it crashes..

My system specs: =--
AMD Athlon XP 1700+
MSI KT3 Ultra-2
1 x 256MB Kingmax DDR333
ATi Radeon 8500le 128MB BGA
RealTEK 8139 NIC
Hercules Fortissimo II

1 LG 52x CD-ROM

The Hard-Drive i use is an old 4GB Quantum..

I've tried everything.. different configs of ACPI, APIC..
Tried moving cards around, tried using different drivers (ie non-
latest).. nothing seems to work.

you runing cat 3.2's??? i had all kinds of peobems like that with cat 3.1's and before .... cat 3.2's seem to run good

Vampyromaniac · Mar 31, 2003, 11:04 PM

Can you maybe try a different version of Fortissimo drivers?
I dunno what else, besides what Neon said . . . video drivers

Ah just to satisfy my curiosity, what do you use left-mouse button for? Shooting?
Can you try using some other button for shooting (or whatever it is), like the Enter key, and see if it still happens?
(I used to have some sporadic issues in CS, with the actual playing of the sound file of the gunshot, when hitting the Shoot button, caused a crash)

Mystik · Apr 1, 2003, 02:07 AM

About diskkeeper.. I downloaded a demo version of it
a while ago (when i first started playing with Win2k last
week or something).. but I never saw an option to put
the pagefile "at an optimized position" (or anything that
soudned like it).. had the Pro Demo (or whatever, not the
LITE version of it).. Think you could provide a screenie or
something so I know where to find it?

and vamp -- yeah, you're right.. it seems to be when I fire..
bind +attack to another key just results in the same crash..

How did you overcome this problem?

Vampyromaniac · Apr 1, 2003, 03:03 AM

Hehe, my curiosity paid off

When I had that problem, I think I either relaxed my memory timings, or changed my sound card driver

Mystik · Apr 1, 2003, 03:19 AM

*hits my head repeatedly on my wall*

I'll try to see if I can relax my memory more than
it already it (.. i guess, it's "semi-aggressive" right now)..

if not, i'll have to hunt down an older version of drivers
for my Fortissimo..

yay.

all this just for japanese support.

/continues to hit head

caqde · Apr 1, 2003, 03:45 AM

I see your thinking about XP. If your after game support look at www.ntcompatible.com under compatibility it will tell you games that do and don't work along with applications and other software. Some people post comments on what they did to get it to work (click on details for these). For the most part 99% basically all software that works in 2000 works in XP. In most cases all you need to do is install SP2 with compatibility updates or SP3 to get the extra software support that XP has.

I would recommend that you install 2000's patches in this order SP2, compatibility updates (don't ask me where to find them I have them but don't have a place to host them), then SP3 this will give you the compatibilty menu found in XP since Microsoft broke them in SP3. This allows you to fake out programs in to believing you have another OS like say Windows 98.

Well Goodluck

Mystik · Apr 1, 2003, 05:08 PM

Thanks for the info caqde..

Anyway -- nothing worked.. I tried all relaxed memory
timings.. tried bios defaults (w/ 133fsb).. tried installing
every driver available off Hercules' FTP (i think they have
all the way to 1.01 or something).. Nothing seemed to
work..

So far, I've got one word for this.

Argh.

caqde · Apr 2, 2003, 01:04 AM

I found this in Ntcompatible's web page it might be of interest. This is of course running in Xp but the 98 compatible tab when using the patch scheme I described should work.

Quote:

As soon as I try to fire a weapon the game crashes out. If I run it in "98/ME Compatibility Mode" it doesn't crash, but the weapon sounds do not work. This could be a Game Theater XP problem, but this isn't confirmed. AMD T-Bird 800mhz, 512mb DDR, Epox 8KHA+, GeForce 3, Hercules Game Theater XP sound

That is the only one I could find and This proves without a doubt in my mind that it is probably the Sound drivers. Because it can't be the Video Drivers ATI and NVIDIA both have the same problem. But this should get the game to at least play.

I also recently found this link http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;279792 I guess they forgot how to turn it on (Figures). Oh yeah This is if you have SP3 installed. Haven't tested its validity.

Mystik · Apr 2, 2003, 08:19 PM

Yeah, I honstly think that the soundcard just doesn't work right
in Win2k (the drivers)..

Pity, as I absolutely despise WinXP at this time.. nor do I wish to
convert to NTFS.. I've grown a deep liking for being able to reinstall
my OS without formatting, and doing that with WinXP is too much of
a hassle in my mind.. (Hell, going from WinXP to Win98se without
formatting was a fun task)..

Thanks for the info though! I'm going to do more testing with the
compatibility now.. though, not hearing your gun fire would be
kinda wierd.. =|

Maybe this can also solve some problems for other games as well..

Much appreciated for the help..

Duffy Jr · Apr 4, 2003, 02:10 AM

Mystik, I had to turn down the Hardware acceleration in 2k to get a couple games running smooth. You will notice that when you back it off a notch it says Recommended. It worked for me and I did not notice a change in sound in any applications.

Mystik · Apr 4, 2003, 04:14 AM

Nice, thanks for the info.. I'm still playing aroudn with it, trying
to get everything to work..

I'll test out your advice next time i boot up in win2k..

Mar 24, 2003, 11:05 AM	#1
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Win2k Help (Again..) Hey guys.. Okay, here're my questions for win2k.. Right now, i'm using it.. on a separate hard-drive on a second install I did (because i forgot to enable ACPI and APIC the first time around).. and I'm quite liking Win2k right now.. BUT, there's one thing that's annoying the hell out of me.. Is there ANY way to get the pagefile to the OUTER sectors of the harddrive? Speed Disk (which I normally used in win98) won't touch the damn thing, and Diskeeper moves it to the END of all the data, so right now, it's near the end of my hard-drive on this 4.6GB i'm using to test it.. I have it permanently set to 384/384 (I was only testing my hardware to see if everything would work, no conflicts would arise, i quite like APIC).. I've spent the last couple of days trying to find out how to put the pagefile to the beginning of the Hard-Drive.. if I can do that, I'll be ready to actually move from Win98se to Win2k.. Thanks. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Mar 24, 2003, 11:13 AM	#2
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Though it sounds like it might not work for you at this point, I think that it might work to partition your hard drive with the outer sectors in a separate partition, then assigning the page file to that partition... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 24, 2003, 01:27 PM	Thread Starter #3
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Would that be the only way to do it? I've read about doing that as well, but I don't like partitioning any of my hard-drives. =) Also, i've encountered another error I can't seem to figure out.. It's only occuring in Win2k.. Looks like "upgrading" has been set back again.. Maybe later on today I'll try installing WinXP and seeing if it causes the same problems.. /sigh/ if only I could find Win98se-J, i wouldn't have to try any of these problems.. Then again, some programs I use didn't install in my Win2k when I set it to Japanese.. =\| Blargh! edit: I isolated it down to my sound that's giving me problems.. Thing was, it wasn't bothering me during the first install of Win2k that I had.. Everything is same except I enabled APIC this time.. gonna try disabling it and reinstalling.. this is so fun. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me. Last edited by Mystik; Mar 24, 2003 at 02:15 PM.

Mar 25, 2003, 12:11 AM	#4
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Mystik I didn't know you had to specifically enable ACPI or APIC for Win2000. Please, what settings or command line switches are necessary to enable these? . . . as I may be buying Win2000 soon __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Mar 25, 2003, 02:19 AM	Thread Starter #5
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	You don't have to specifically enable them, though they're handy to have.. ACPI, you can have enabled in Win98se as well (i didn't.. for some reason.. i always wondered why my computer would just turn off without shutting windows down first).. APIC, you also don't have to have enabled.. but it was nice because it really gave every peice of hardware you had it's own IRQ (Mine went all the way up to IRQ 17).. These are enabled via your BIOS.. and is highly recommended that you turn them on BEFORE the install of an OS.. if you turn them on after, you'll just cause 2k/XP to get confused and explode on itself.. Win98se just doesn't care. =P I've reinstalled 2k about 5 times today.. I can't seem to solve a problem i'm getting with the 3 games (1 game = emu + roms) in 2k.. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Mar 25, 2003, 02:23 AM	#6
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Ah Thanks man, I did think Win2000 has them on by default. Makes sense it's a BIOS issue. Thanks for the info __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Mar 25, 2003, 02:44 PM	Thread Starter #7
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	No prob, glad to help. =) Anyway, no Win2k for me.. I don't know what's causing it, but I keep getting errors in Half-Life.. I've narrowed it down to when using A3D that the error comes up and causes it to close.. I've reinstalled Win2k more than 5 times in the past couple days and nothing I did (BIOS tweaking, not installing certain things, etc., etc..) seemed to remedy the situation.. I haven't tried installing any other games to see if it affected them because I always go back to Half-Life in the long run.. and if it doesn't work, then screw other games. =p I'm still gonna try to do some testing.. I don't wanna resort to WinXP since there are MANY things that piss me off (a couple of things come to mind right now).. BLargh! __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Mar 31, 2003, 07:55 PM	Thread Starter #8
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Okay, this is starting to seriously piss me the fuck off.. I've installed Win2k probably more times than anyone has in a year this past month.. and I can't seem to figure out what the hell the problem is.. If there's ANYONE out there that can offer any kind of advice.. please do. These are my problems.. In "Live for Speed" (and, probably any other game), after about 10-15 minutes of play my system hard-locks. The frame freezes on screen and the sound starts to repeat. In "Half-Life".. clicking the mouse-button results in a a program crash (HL.EXE has caused . . .) Of course, this only happens with the left mouse button.. I can run around clicking the middle mouse and right mouse button.. but as soon as I click the left one, it crashes.. My system specs: =-- AMD Athlon XP 1700+ MSI KT3 Ultra-2 1 x 256MB Kingmax DDR333 ATi Radeon 8500le 128MB BGA RealTEK 8139 NIC Hercules Fortissimo II 1 LG 52x CD-ROM The Hard-Drive i use is an old 4GB Quantum.. I've tried everything.. different configs of ACPI, APIC.. Tried moving cards around, tried using different drivers (ie non- latest).. nothing seems to work. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Mar 31, 2003, 11:04 PM	#11
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	hmm Can you maybe try a different version of Fortissimo drivers? I dunno what else, besides what Neon said . . . video drivers Ah just to satisfy my curiosity, what do you use left-mouse button for? Shooting? Can you try using some other button for shooting (or whatever it is), like the Enter key, and see if it still happens? (I used to have some sporadic issues in CS, with the actual playing of the sound file of the gunshot, when hitting the Shoot button, caused a crash) __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Apr 1, 2003, 02:07 AM	Thread Starter #12
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	About diskkeeper.. I downloaded a demo version of it a while ago (when i first started playing with Win2k last week or something).. but I never saw an option to put the pagefile "at an optimized position" (or anything that soudned like it).. had the Pro Demo (or whatever, not the LITE version of it).. Think you could provide a screenie or something so I know where to find it? and vamp -- yeah, you're right.. it seems to be when I fire.. bind +attack to another key just results in the same crash.. How did you overcome this problem? __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Apr 1, 2003, 03:03 AM	#13
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Hehe, my curiosity paid off When I had that problem, I think I either relaxed my memory timings, or changed my sound card driver

Apr 1, 2003, 03:19 AM	Thread Starter #14
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	hits my head repeatedly on my wall I'll try to see if I can relax my memory more than it already it (.. i guess, it's "semi-aggressive" right now).. if not, i'll have to hunt down an older version of drivers for my Fortissimo.. yay. all this just for japanese support. /continues to hit head __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Apr 1, 2003, 03:45 AM	#15
caqde HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: US, IL Posts: 505 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	I see your thinking about XP. If your after game support look at www.ntcompatible.com under compatibility it will tell you games that do and don't work along with applications and other software. Some people post comments on what they did to get it to work (click on details for these). For the most part 99% basically all software that works in 2000 works in XP. In most cases all you need to do is install SP2 with compatibility updates or SP3 to get the extra software support that XP has. I would recommend that you install 2000's patches in this order SP2, compatibility updates (don't ask me where to find them I have them but don't have a place to host them), then SP3 this will give you the compatibilty menu found in XP since Microsoft broke them in SP3. This allows you to fake out programs in to believing you have another OS like say Windows 98. Well Goodluck __________________ AMD Phenom II X4 925 AM3/ Giga-byte MA790XT-UD4P XFX HD5770 1GB / 2x8GB of Geil DDR3 12800 10-10-10-28 Samsung SH-S182D DVD-RW drive / Sony Optiarc BD-5300S BD-RW drive Western Digital WD1501FASS(Primary)/Western Digital 15EADS(Secondary)/Western Digital 7500AACS(Secondary)/Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320gb(Secondary) Antec TP-550 / CoolerMaster CMStacker Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Professional / Creative Inspire 6600 6.1 speakers Samsugn T200HD 20" LCD Monitor / Logitech Internet 350 Black Keyboard Logitech MX510 Mouse

Apr 1, 2003, 05:08 PM	Thread Starter #16
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the info caqde.. Anyway -- nothing worked.. I tried all relaxed memory timings.. tried bios defaults (w/ 133fsb).. tried installing every driver available off Hercules' FTP (i think they have all the way to 1.01 or something).. Nothing seemed to work.. So far, I've got one word for this. Argh. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Apr 2, 2003, 08:19 PM	Thread Starter #18
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I honstly think that the soundcard just doesn't work right in Win2k (the drivers).. Pity, as I absolutely despise WinXP at this time.. nor do I wish to convert to NTFS.. I've grown a deep liking for being able to reinstall my OS without formatting, and doing that with WinXP is too much of a hassle in my mind.. (Hell, going from WinXP to Win98se without formatting was a fun task).. Thanks for the info though! I'm going to do more testing with the compatibility now.. though, not hearing your gun fire would be kinda wierd.. =\| Maybe this can also solve some problems for other games as well.. Much appreciated for the help.. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Apr 4, 2003, 02:10 AM	#19
Duffy Jr DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	Mystik, I had to turn down the Hardware acceleration in 2k to get a couple games running smooth. You will notice that when you back it off a notch it says Recommended. It worked for me and I did not notice a change in sound in any applications. __________________ A7N8X Rev.1.04/Barton 2500+(11.5x200)/Corsir CMX512-3200C2/Retail 9600pro 128mb/Santa Cruz/

Apr 4, 2003, 04:14 AM	Thread Starter #20
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Nice, thanks for the info.. I'm still playing aroudn with it, trying to get everything to work.. I'll test out your advice next time i boot up in win2k.. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.