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Old Apr 2, 2003, 03:41 PM   #1
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Help With Service that Detects Hardware?!

When I freshly installed windows I cut a bunch of services, out, I have even reset them ll back to automatic but I seem to have killed The service that in "My Computer" displays the processor, also in cmd prompt, it doesn't allow me to do "systeminfo" and The DXP Diagnostics Tool says invalid namespsace twice when I try and start it up, does anyone know what service I killed and whih to start it back up again?
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Doesn't sound like a service to me.
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Hmm... I dunno.... I thought it might have been realted to performance logs and alerts... I didn't think it was a service after it wouldn't let command prompt connect to systeminfo but I dunno exactly what the problem... is?


Anyone got a clue?


Something in the bios maybe? Preventing Windows from reading everything
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How about a good system restore to revert back to a point before you messed around with services?
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search in c:\windows\system32\wbem for "framedyn.dll" file.. if is not there then you need it.
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Heh, if I only Left System Restore Enabled



I got that frame DYN file, and it's not a service.....


I have been to that page alot... I really dunno what it is......


This is frustrating....
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I'll kjust clean install after windows xp service pack comes out, but thanks for the suggestions guys, it's not a serviuce I dunno what it is.... possibly a prcoess I have permently killed but defintely not as service
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how about getting your system info from .../accessories/system tools/system information can you see the info from there? also try to test "systeminfo" file in c:\windows\system32... by double clicking the file to see if any error.... missing , damage or need a file to run the program..
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when i do the system info, it says "Failed Connection to computer. Check to see Winmgmt Service is running."

And now I remember why I orignally thought it was a service.... that process is not running or that service
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okay.. you need to set automatic for the service "windows management instrumentation" system info wont work if you've it disabled!
if its still then check in event viewer for event id: and description: i like to have that infos
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Well, First of all, Windows Management instrumention has been Set back to autoimatic, so it is,

Secondly, when I double click "system info" IT says invalid name space for half a second and closes (Cuz it's not run through command prompt it closes I presume) But I double clicked it a dozen times and you can see somerthing that says "invalid name spacE" in bold letters


Thern there are a whole bunch of "errors" in event viewer one is like this, in application

"Windows couldn't log the RSoP (Resultant Set of Policies) session status. An attempt to connect to WMI failed. No more RSoP logging will be done for this application of policy.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp."



What are the dependencies and do they need to be set to automatic as well?
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What are the dependencies and do they need to be set to automatic as well?
- remote procedure call(rpc)-- set to automatic

"Windows couldn't log the RSoP (Resultant Set of Policies) session status. An attempt to connect to WMI failed. No more RSoP logging will be done for this application of policy.... "
- thats event id: 1090 and source: userenv.. http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?e...source=Userenv as you can see "no info available" so it mean nowhere that i can find more info.. i would create a new account, computer admin type, log in as the account and then try the systeminfo again.
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M<ade a new user No effect... Made sure those services were on automatic, and no affect. :\
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Old Apr 7, 2003, 07:59 PM   #15
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Thern there are a whole bunch of "errors" in event viewer one is like this, in application
look for Event ID: 28 Source: WinMgmt in "system"
if you had ones then you need to reinstall wmi into the registry..
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>Winmgmt/? (read information then close the applet)
and then type in each of below hitting enter after each..
winmgmt /clearadap
winmgmt /kill
winmgmt /unregserver
winmgmt /regserver
winmgmt /resyncperf
>exit and reboot.

you can try this b4 doing the above
try to run WMI.. go to start/run/cmd type in wmimgmt.msc
you should see "configures and controls the...(WMI) service" without error message (see note),
if you see something like "failed to connect to... due to WMI failure"
then do.. start/run type in services.msc and right click on "windows management instrumentation" then click "stop" and close services. then start/run type in %SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem\Repository ..delete all files in the folder. reboot.
note: if the WMI is ok and connected.. you can see the processor, os, wmi infos..
right click on WMI Control(local)/properties/general tab.






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im not sure what that dll mentioned above was might you might wanna try to start and run it and see is it helps by typeing rundd32 (and then the file name and local )
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Thanks for the tips Panging... Howeve I tried botgh of those things it didn't work, I can only see RAM info in My computer... not processor, and Also an ionteresting note is that a few random apps like "advanced" options in network options, says stuff about windows instrumentation


Now if I only I could fix it,
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Now if I only I could fix it,
clean or repair installation!?? you dont want to do that now Right? so wait until sp2 final..
load "default" in bios setup (if you haven't tried it) and thats it my last one for now. good luck

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Thanks for directing me over here panging, I was looking around but couldn't find the thread.

Anyway, my problem is a little different- last time I checked, system info worked just fine-

I go to check my IRQ fo rmy video card and it pauses for a second, then loads up help and support every time. Even if I go into the run line and type systeminfo - same thing. I got spooked and thought it must be the dumb updated that I had installed the last couple of days. I was running sfc and everything- now I don't even want to shut down my compter- I want to back some things up first if ya know what I mean. scetchy----- I have had this install going great for about 8 months no problems, not even a hiccup-
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I'm toast-- this sucks- what happend I wil never know- I didn't change a thing.
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I'm toast-- this sucks- what happend I wil never know- I didn't change a thing.
dont think you've to worry about booting xp, it'll boot, xp never go that bad .. anyway where can i find your PC spec, all i like to know is how many HDD and part.(s) you're having? i'd like you to make the backup 1st and then we'll try to fix it.. and if you like to, i'll help you build a new system(operation systems) so that you wont have to worry about.. loss, missing or wont boot anymore!?
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dont think you've to worry about booting xp, it'll boot, xp never go that bad .. anyway where can i find your PC spec, all i like to know is how many HDD and part.(s) you're having? i'd like you to make the backup 1st and then we'll try to fix it.. and if you like to, i'll help you build a new system(operation systems) so that you wont have to worry about.. loss, missing or wont boot anymore!?
No, it probably isn't that bad, but I was playing a game at 4 this morming (6 hours ago) and my PC locked up and displayed a message about IRQ_GREATER OR LESS THAN-- or something-- It was weird, since my PC NEVER locks up ot does anything weird-- I had a very mild oc on it at the time which I took down to normal just to make sure (temps are 42c)- But then when I rebooted I could not access my system information.

I have 1 WD Hard drive installed w/ win XP pro-

The horrible part is this-- I just found out my new video card is going to be here in an hour and I didn't even know it was shipped yet! O well-
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No, it probably isn't that bad, but I was playing a game at 4 this morming (6 hours ago) and my PC locked up and displayed a message about IRQ_GREATER OR LESS THAN-- or something-- It was weird, since my PC NEVER locks up ot does anything weird-- I had a very mild oc on it at the time which I took down to normal just to make sure (temps are 42c)- But then when I rebooted I could not access my system information.

I have 1 WD Hard drive installed w/ win XP pro-

The horrible part is this-- I just found out my new video card is going to be here in an hour and I didn't even know it was shipped yet! O well-

Well, I think I am going to shut down and start up again- the only reason I though I may have screwed my system up is because at first I thought a reg-clean program I had MUST be at fault, so I used a backup registry and then tried to run the system info exe from the command line, I also did a sfc and it asked me for my windows cd-

I should have stopped right there, but it wouldn't let me and started the process. It kept popping up the box that had a button for retry or cancel, but it wouldn't let me cancel and at that point I didn't want to just turn the PC off- I let it check the files, but it seemed to be writing to the hard drive. I even tried to get out of that program with the task manager, but it wouldn't let me.


Before I did any of that I made sure all the services that needed to be on were on and accessories/system tools/system information STILL kept loading the help and support program. Driving me nuts---

I really don't know what could have happend, It could all be because of that stupid styleXP program, but I doubt it. Everything else works fine.

(except when I go to the mouse properties pannel I get a bunch of errors only in the "pointers" tab, then after hitting 'ok' to all those errors, the mouse pannel works just fine)- this happend during one of the themexp installations- my fualt there I am sure. but no big deal.

The initial problem was probably due to the loaner video card I have in there- It has been acting funny sisnce I got it.

I'm sure my system will boot back up- but I think I may need to do some repairing if I want it back to perfect like it was before and has been for months.
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Before I did any of that I made sure all the services that needed to be on were on and accessories/system tools/system information STILL kept loading the help and support program. Driving me nuts---
try this.. start/run type.. msinfo32
if you cant get your systen info, whats the error?
and also try this.. msinfo32 /report C:\systeminfo.nfo
then go to C:\ you should have your system info there, open it as a txt file.
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try this.. start/run type.. msinfo32
if you cant get your systen info, whats the error?
and also try this.. msinfo32 /report C:\systeminfo.nfo
then go to C:\ you should have your system info there, open it as a txt file.

I came close to losing the whole thing right here http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...963#post117963 Quite a ways down the page (today)-- It still doesn't work-- No msinfo anywhere in c or windows or windows 32-


Before my brush w/ death today, that sysinfo in system32 just popped up for a 1/10 ses then went away, now it actually stays open for a while and lists some things in a command prompt (DOS) and goes away. I have no idea what happend with these files- this is where I started noticing all the problems which lead to the above link. (stylexp uninstall was to blame- it ate my windows files)-- Anyway, when I go in the start menu the same thing happens, goto system info and the 'help and support' program comes up.


I am just trying to repair my system now.
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ok do a repair and good luck ..oh dont use that thing!! anymore
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How do you perform a reinstallation of Windows XP, sometimes called a repair installation?
Configure your computer to start from the CD-ROM drive. For more information about how to do this, refer to your computer's documentation or contact your computer manufacturer. Then insert your Windows XP Setup CD, and restart your computer.
When the Press any key to boot from CD message is displayed on your screen, press a key to start your computer from the Windows XP CD.
Press ENTER when you see the message To setup Windows XP now, and then press ENTER displayed on the Welcome to Setup screen.
Do not choose the option to press R to use the Recovery Console.
In the Windows XP Licensing Agreement, press F8 to agree to the license agreement.
Make sure that your current installation of Windows XP is selected in the box, and then press R to repair Windows XP.
Follow the instructions on the screen to complete Setup.

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