Error Messages

BlueMak · Mar 13, 2008, 10:56 AM

For the last couple of days I get these type of messages.
Usualy when I close a program (in this case a media player), but also when I close a game etc. It doesn't appear with everything, just a fraction of the programs (that are also installed on different hard drives) so I am not very worried, but still worried. Suggestions?

BTW, it doesn't always appear even for specific programs.

**temeteus82** · Mar 13, 2008, 11:00 AM

run memtest86+ to make sure that your ram is ok.

RoyBatty · Mar 13, 2008, 11:10 AM

Yes, I would check memory and CPU stability.

BlueMak · Mar 13, 2008, 12:46 PM

I don't have a CD to make a bootable cdrom, would a DVD work with the iso provided?
I don't have floppy disks or drive either.

About the CPU...how can I test that?

**temeteus82** · Mar 13, 2008, 01:04 PM

you can't burn .iso image to cd-rw?

get UBCD it has all the tools you would need to diagnose CPU and RAM

RoyBatty · Mar 13, 2008, 01:08 PM

I never used a DVD for it, but from what I have read it should work.

For CPU test you can use Prime95 stress test - get it here: Prime95 version 25.6 - mersenneforum.org

BlueMak · Mar 13, 2008, 07:57 PM

Memory is fine, memtest86+ gave it a clear bill of health.

RoyBatty · Mar 14, 2008, 09:26 PM

Run it for an hour at least, as well as Prime95 (use the Blend test) to be sure.

kn00tcn · Mar 16, 2008, 03:41 AM

this can also be caused as an error, not memory specific

i guess to start, check of northbridge is getting too hot & if possible, raise the memory voltage by just 1 tick (when i first got halflife2 i had to do this to stop it from crashing to desktop with that error message)

but if it's ONLY for closing, something else is up... i've had it happen when stuff improperly closes (& i've had a friend have it appear every single time IE is closed from any myspace page)

can you get more specific with which programs & when & how many others are running at the same time?

BlueMak · Apr 21, 2008, 03:22 AM

Well it just happened again, while playing a game (EU:Rome).

Quote:

Rome:romegame.exe Application Error.

The instruction at "0x00405aca" referenced memory at "0x0000001c". The memory could not be "read".

Click on OK to termiante the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program

I wasn't trying to quit the game.

So far it has happened on this and another game today, DIFFERENT hard drives.
Notice that this time it says "read" instead of "written". Also this is a game, not a media player or anything other.

How can I check the northbridge if it is getting too hot?
Raising the memory voltage? Hmm.

Other programs running at the same time, let's see.
Netscape 9.0.0.6, Opera 9.27, usual creative labs crap, vuplayer, firewall and anti virus, a tv tuner monitor program, fraps, realtek hd audio manager, orandy oneclick and a windows eh window showing the directory of where fraps saves the screenshots (28 objects, about 10MB).

BlueMak · Apr 21, 2008, 02:43 PM

I checked the BIOS and the memory had voltage set at auto, and depending on where I looked in the bios, it was at either 1.83 or 1.85. I can only change it manualy every .10 starting with 1.80. Should I try it at 1.90?

I also found a setting that I don't remember from before, about throttling the CPU. Not the normal option that was always there and disabled, but some new one. Anyway I switched that to OFF, just in case.

BlueMak · Apr 21, 2008, 05:22 PM

I changed the voltage to 1.90 and the last timing to 18 from 15 that I had it. The reason for the latter is that though where I bought it from and newegg has it as 5-5-5-15, the official site has it at 18. And...

It happened again, only this time while reading the thumbnails of wmv files. There were about 20ish files in there. I checked other folders with video files, including wmv, but the problem kept appearing only in that. I then moved the files to another empty folder, and it happened again. It also happened when I was not in that folder, but on its root folder. It felt like the error appeared when it was trying to show the 4 small thumbnails on the folder containing the video files.
In all cases the error message was about the explorer.exe.
I deleted the folder and the files.

I am leaning towards a software issue with wondows, but I can't rule out a hardware issue.

Oh, appeared. Lovely word.

Mar 13, 2008, 10:56 AM	#1
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Error Messages For the last couple of days I get these type of messages. Usualy when I close a program (in this case a media player), but also when I close a game etc. It doesn't appear with everything, just a fraction of the programs (that are also installed on different hard drives) so I am not very worried, but still worried. Suggestions? BTW, it doesn't always appear even for specific programs. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.* Last edited by BlueMak; Mar 13, 2008 at 11:01 AM.

Mar 13, 2008, 12:46 PM	Thread Starter #4
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	I don't have a CD to make a bootable cdrom, would a DVD work with the iso provided? I don't have floppy disks or drive either. About the CPU...how can I test that? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Mar 13, 2008, 07:57 PM	Thread Starter #7
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Memory is fine, memtest86+ gave it a clear bill of health. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Mar 16, 2008, 03:41 AM	#9
kn00tcn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 649 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	this can also be caused as an error, not memory specific i guess to start, check of northbridge is getting too hot & if possible, raise the memory voltage by just 1 tick (when i first got halflife2 i had to do this to stop it from crashing to desktop with that error message) but if it's ONLY for closing, something else is up... i've had it happen when stuff improperly closes (& i've had a friend have it appear every single time IE is closed from any myspace page) can you get more specific with which programs & when & how many others are running at the same time? __________________ http://www.kn00tcn.net/site/ati-catalyst-profiles/ http://www.kn00tcn.net/FPSLimiter.rar

Apr 21, 2008, 02:43 PM	Thread Starter #11
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	I checked the BIOS and the memory had voltage set at auto, and depending on where I looked in the bios, it was at either 1.83 or 1.85. I can only change it manualy every .10 starting with 1.80. Should I try it at 1.90? I also found a setting that I don't remember from before, about throttling the CPU. Not the normal option that was always there and disabled, but some new one. Anyway I switched that to OFF, just in case. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Mar 13, 2008, 11:10 AM	#3
RoyBatty HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,941 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	Yes, I would check memory and CPU stability.

Mar 13, 2008, 01:08 PM	#6
RoyBatty HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,941 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	I never used a DVD for it, but from what I have read it should work. For CPU test you can use Prime95 stress test - get it here: Prime95 version 25.6 - mersenneforum.org

Mar 14, 2008, 09:26 PM	#8
RoyBatty HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,941 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	Run it for an hour at least, as well as Prime95 (use the Blend test) to be sure.

Apr 21, 2008, 05:22 PM	Thread Starter #12
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	I changed the voltage to 1.90 and the last timing to 18 from 15 that I had it. The reason for the latter is that though where I bought it from and newegg has it as 5-5-5-15, the official site has it at 18. And... It happened again, only this time while reading the thumbnails of wmv files. There were about 20ish files in there. I checked other folders with video files, including wmv, but the problem kept appearing only in that. I then moved the files to another empty folder, and it happened again. It also happened when I was not in that folder, but on its root folder. It felt like the error appeared when it was trying to show the 4 small thumbnails on the folder containing the video files. In all cases the error message was about the explorer.exe. I deleted the folder and the files. I am leaning towards a software issue with wondows, but I can't rule out a hardware issue. Oh, appeared. Lovely word. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*