[MythicaL]

Which is better and which one uses less RAM / system resources?

[_leech_]

Niether, i use AVG

[MythicaL]

Bah... I think AVG uses less RAM than Norton AV though... Dunno, I hear PC-Cillin has better auto-protect.

[blah]

Monkeys flinging Fecies are better virus protection then NAV..

AVG 7.0 Pro Two year supscription (default) and The best Anti-virus imo around

[krazy1]

Originally posted by JJohnson1988
Which is better and which one uses less RAM / system resources?

Not sure on resources but I would take PC-Cillin over Norton ANY day. Trend has made sure the home user is just as much a priority as the corp user. SYmantec puts the home user more on the side. Sure if you manually go out every day with symantec you can get updates but with PC-Cillin you can set it to go out as often as every 3 hrs to get updates and with the crap flying around these days the more often you check for updates the better. I have seen Trend release 6 updates in one day!! The other thing is Trend Micro is much better at getting info out on virus's then Symantec. Trend is usually 1hr to 1 day ahead of Symantec. That may not be very important to most home users but to me it is. The other good thing with Trend is it does block some of the spyware out there. Not all of it but some.

As for AVG, I am not impressed with it. I have seen it miss several things that products like PC-Cillin and Symantec saw right away. I am not saying it is bad but if I had to pick among these 3 products I would take PC-Cillin first, Syamtec second and AVG third.

Now who am I to say things like I have above? Well my job here at work is to stay on top of the virus & vulnerability world and to test not only corp products but home products. The main reason for testing home products is so that we know what to tell our users here at work to use at home when they ask. No I am not a leading authority but I do have a pretty good hands on knowledge.

[PoopyTheJ]

AVG all the way man. AVG is the best damn Anti-virus I have ever used, small, discreet very little impact on performance. Overall a real good AV. Plus the whole FREE thing is nice!

[PbXAssassin]

I had the 2002 edition of PC-Cillin it came with my mobo and I figured I might as well try it. Well I don't know what it does but my system slowed to a crawl... when it takes 5 minutes for a 3Ghz P4 w/ a GB of RAM 5 minutes to load an explorer window something is up. It would open the window and show all the files, but the little info about em and the icons wouldn't come up.

So right now I use AVG, not the best, but I don't really expect it for free. Also I use Kerio 2.1.5 for a firewall, with the combo I notice as close to no performance impact as you can get, bootup is even near unnoticeable.

Now, what I've heard nothing but excelence about is NOD32, I havn't really heard much about it until reciently, but if I were going to pay for an anti virus, thats what I would do.

[krazy1]

Originally posted by PbXAssassin
I had the 2002 edition of PC-Cillin it came with my mobo and I figured I might as well try it. Well I don't know what it does but my system slowed to a crawl... when it takes 5 minutes for a 3Ghz P4 w/ a GB of RAM 5 minutes to load an explorer window something is up. It would open the window and show all the files, but the little info about em and the icons wouldn't come up.

I can tell you this, with PC-Cillin 2k4 I ran it on 3 different systems. P2 450, p3 733, & P4 3GHz and I didn't see any slowdown with it. Now symantec on the other hand was a little differnt. I did see a little slowdown but not big enough to worry about. Yes PC performance is important but I am more worried about security then the performance. If you are super worried about performance then get a really really good firewall, don't use e-mail and get rid of Anti-virus all together. I can tell you I use 2 differnt drives on my system. 1 is my main drive and I have Trend Micro OfficeScan on that since I use that drive for surfing and for e-mail. My other drive is stricktly for gaming and no Anti-virus software is installed. BUT I also run a very good firewall (hardware) and I do not surf with that drive.

[PangingJr]

krazy1,
i'm glad you also like the Tread Micro. you have a very good reply there.

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Tread Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2004 - PCCTool.exe

the PCCTool is located at the program folder,
not on the program groups/start menu nor on its system tray icon's context menu
you can control this AV and PF in many ways with the tool.






the network virus news and defs/pattern is very fast and very up to date.

[PbXAssassin]

So, I guess they fixed whatever made my machine do that with 2k2 in the 2k4 edition.

[El Kapitano]

I've had Pc-Cillin since V7, thats about 6 years and never ever had any problems with it. I've used NAV and McCafee and overall rate the Trend Pc-Cillin as the easiest to use and most efficient AV.

Nicely timed thread BTW cos my subscriptions up tomorrow.

[pr0digal jenius]

norton will RAPE your system rescources, as well as nto let you do things you want to do (systemworks is the most god awful program ever made)

[PbXAssassin]

Originally posted by pr0digal jenius
norton will RAPE your system rescources, as well as nto let you do things you want to do (systemworks is the most god awful program ever made)

good to know, I almost dumped 50 bucks into that suite. Now I know I won't be needing to.

[OpusP.Gladiator]

Norman kicks ass!!! Sandbox is it!

[PangingJr]

read the topic.

[PbXAssassin]

Glad should be banned.

[THILE]

I recently got an IRC virus, and my Norton antivirus could not find it.
Then I used Trend Micro's Online Scanner and got rid of it. So I don't trust Norton anymore, it was even fully updated.
So I would go for PC-Cillin next time.

[PangingJr]

FYI... If you have not installed any 16-bit applications on your computer, you can turn off automatic short -- 8-character name, 3-character extension -- file name generation to speed up file and folder access on your computer.

and also for more safety..

Disable Auto Generation of 8.3 File Names: Enable the computer to stop generating 8.3 style filenames
This entry appears as MSS: Enable the computer to stop generating 8.3 style filenames in the SCE. Windows Server 2003 supports 8.3 file name formats for backward compatibility with16 - bit applications. The 8.3 file name convention is a naming format that allows file names that are up to eight characters in length.

Vulnerability
This means that an attacker only needs eight characters to refer to a file that may be 20 characters long. For example, a file named Thisisalongfilename.doc, could be referenced by its 8.3 filename Thisis~1.doc. If you avoid using 16 - bit applications, you can turn this feature off. Disabling short name generation on an NTFS file system (NTFS) partition also increases directory enumeration performance.

Attackers could use short file names to access data files and applications with long file names that would normally be difficult to locate. An attacker who has gained access to the file system could access data or execute applications.

But i think if you use NAV you cannot disable auto generation of 8.3 file names.

[wonderwrench]

Originally posted by PbXAssassin
I had the 2002 edition of PC-Cillin it came with my mobo and I figured I might as well try it. Well I don't know what it does but my system slowed to a crawl... when it takes 5 minutes for a 3Ghz P4 w/ a GB of RAM 5 minutes to load an explorer window something is up. It would open the window and show all the files, but the little info about em and the icons wouldn't come up.

So right now I use AVG, not the best, but I don't really expect it for free. Also I use Kerio 2.1.5 for a firewall, with the combo I notice as close to no performance impact as you can get, bootup is even near unnoticeable.

Now, what I've heard nothing but excelence about is NOD32, I havn't really heard much about it until reciently, but if I were going to pay for an anti virus, thats what I would do.

PC-cillin had problems with HT on P4's there was an update to fix it. The problem with new hardware is you may need new software.

I have used PC-cillin on and off since PC-cillin 98 usually when symantec was pissing me off. I was a norton fanboy from win95 days. Then symantec got there hands in and what was norton was gone. I've had symantec products some good some bad and norton antivirus could at times been called norton virus. I'm now using Trend Micro Internet security and I have never had a serious problem with it or any version for that matter. It just plain works.

[crlorentzen]

NAV is a resource hog...but SAV on the other hand is the best anti-virus solution IMO.,..AVG is good too, haven't used it but heard good things.

[Dexsal]

i found the above threads to be very in informal i just dloaded SyGate looking forward to trying Tread Micro.

[ViRuS2k]

hmmmm if tread micro is the bee`s nee`s compaired to norton then what is mcafee AV and persional firewall + then to tread micro me persionaly likes mcafee but i was wondering is tread micro better or worse ??????? does tread detect faster newer released virus`s faster then mcafee ? does tread protect better than mcafee ?????? if it does i will uninstall mcafee and install tread lol

[wonderwrench]

Originally posted by ViRuS2k
hmmmm if tread micro is the bee`s nee`s compaired to norton then what is mcafee AV and persional firewall + then to tread micro me persionaly likes mcafee but i was wondering is tread micro better or worse ??????? does tread detect faster newer released virus`s faster then mcafee ? does tread protect better than mcafee ?????? if it does i will uninstall mcafee and install tread lol

I would use what works good for you. I have had bad luck with both Norton and McAfee myself. With Trend I get updates almost every day, some times 2 or 3 times in a day. I have even gotten updates on the weekend. IMO Trend sure is trying very hard to keep up to any new threats.

I also recommend Trend's house call. Free online scanner. I have worked on 2 pc's lately 1 with Norton and 1 with Antivir both with updated def's and house call found several viruses on each. I also worked on an old 98se box with nav with expired def's (about 2 years old) House call was able to remove 69 viruses and over 700 malicious files with out problems. I was sure impressed.

I wish trend sold there products at bestbuy i think more people would buy there stuff.

[MythicaL]

Yeah TM updates alot, sometimes a couple times a day, when Norton is every three days or so.

Norton AV has an easier interface and easier to use in general but while you get that good stuff, Norton hogs the crap out of your system resources.

So, basically:

TrendMicro (PC-Cillin) - Better protections, less resources used (faster system performance)
Norton AV (2004) - Easier GUI, more resources needed, slows down computer really bad sometimes

[krazy1]

Originally posted by JJohnson1988
Yeah TM updates alot, sometimes a couple times a day, when Norton is every three days or so.

Norton AV has an easier interface and easier to use in general but while you get that good stuff, Norton hogs the crap out of your system resources.

So, basically:

TrendMicro (PC-Cillin) - Better protections, less resources used (faster system performance)
Norton AV (2004) - Easier GUI, more resources needed, slows down computer really bad sometimes

Actually the GUI for PC-Cillin 2k4 is very easy to use. Glad to see more people looking at Trend!! With my promotion at work last week I am now in charge of 4 servers that run Trend's Scanmail eManager and Scan Mail for Lotus Notes . I have gained even more respect for Trend after using these enterprise apps. Trend is one company that should not be over looked.

[STAB]

How about NOD32?

Havent seen any1 mentioning it.

Very very simple to use and the free version i have updates at least once a day, Sometimes more (really aweful when gaming and the system minimizes the game to show u that the antivirus was updated). Quite quick to scan whatever files i have in a folder though it uses about 6 MB RAM.