Will XP SERVICE PACK 1 fix the REFRESH rate problem with gaming.

peterosesbookie · Sep 5, 2002, 01:29 AM

This has probably been discussed before but will this service pack fix the low graphic and low refresh rate of games. I hope this fixes the issue with this. I cannot stand to see the flickering of the screen in games. If it has been fixed, Please let me know.

later

pete

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Sep 5, 2002, 02:14 AM

i belive that is already a patch for the refresh rate problem but i assume that the patch is also included in the Servoce pack

AT_curiousB · Sep 5, 2002, 11:15 AM

still persists. It has been suggested that M$ has fixed the refresh problem fo Direct X games, although i have seen no evidence of this myself on my machine.

The best thing to do is to find a program that works for your machine, I use reforce, just do a search on Google and you will find it.

Best of luck.

Bill.

BTW check PM

peterosesbookie · Sep 6, 2002, 05:41 PM

Quote:

The best thing to do is to find a program that works for your machine, I use reforce, just do a search on Google and you will find it.

I have a Ati All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500dv and I use tv out. Those programs do not allow tv due to the refresh of tv is 60 and if I force the drivers to due 85hz - I lose the tv out all together.

Thanx for the Input and PM

pete

peterosesbookie · Sep 10, 2002, 05:03 PM

What you have to do is override the directdraw in directx Diagnostic tool. In windows XP under its interface with directx 8.1, this is how to fix that.

1. Click Start
2. all programs (old interface programs)
3. goto accessories
4. system tools
5. click system information
6. wait
7. Now on system information click tools
8. drop to directX diagnostic tool and click it
9. wait a minute til it loads
10. Click the more help button
11. a little tweak located at the bottom
12. "Click this button to override Directdraw's Refresh Rate"
13. CLICK IT
14. on the next screen click bullet beside override value
15. Enter in your refresh rate value BuT BeWaRe ThAt YoU Do NoT PuT A VaLuE ThErE ThAt YoUr MoNiToR CaN NoT SuPpOrT.
16. Click Okay
17. Then Restart to make sure that it is the value is put into the system.

That's for directDraw Games. BUT Microsoft has to Fix the Opengl Now.

later

pete

peroni · Sep 10, 2002, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by peterosesbookie
I have a Ati All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500dv and I use tv out. Those programs do not allow tv due to the refresh of tv is 60 and if I force the drivers to due 85hz - I lose the tv out all together.
pete

Pete, you really want to try refreshforce
It does not change the refresh on the TV-OUT.

peterosesbookie · Sep 11, 2002, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peroni
Pete, you really want to try refreshforce
It does not change the refresh on the TV-OUT.

here are my system specs:

Antec sx-1030B
Antec PP-510D Power Supply
Tyan Thunder K7 S2462 -NG
2 AMD Athlon MP 1900+ (1.6 ghz)
ATI ALL IN WONDER RADEON 8500 DV
2 sticks of Crucial REG ECC 2100 256MB Memory (512 total)
2 sticks of Corsair REG ECC 2100 256MB Memory (512 total)
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
Promise Raid TX2000 ATA 133
2 40 GB Hard drives Maxtor diamond max plus 7200RPM (boot and backup)
2 60 GB Hard drives Maxtor diamond max plus 7200RPM (120-112GB Running raid 0)
Toshiba 16x dvd 1612
Plextor 24/12/40 black
Sony 3.5 Black floppy
All Vantec Cables to fit 3 18 2 24 (Floppy and dvd/cd drives)
2 Thermaltake 6CU+ 7000RPM
Cyber Cooler INC SC-180 System blower for videocard and soundcard heat
Ambient (Intel) V.90 hardware modem
Sony 21" G520P monitor

This is my server/entertainment center that I use everyday and do not want to mess it up in anyway. I had use refresh fixes that just messed up my system and I do not want to reinstall everything at this point.

later

pete

Ben_UK · Sep 11, 2002, 08:24 PM

Not installed SP1 yet, am waiting for ATI to release some officail drivers before i format

I have been told MS have fixed it for D3D, but no OpenGL

So it looks like u will still need a refresh fix progarm

Are MS trying to get rid of openGL

Vaporizer · Sep 11, 2002, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benny
Are MS trying to get rid of openGL

lol, let them try

Frodo301 · Sep 12, 2002, 04:44 AM

I've tried the Override DirectDraw refresh and have not noticed any difference in refresh rate. The only thing that I've found that seems to work really well for everything I've thrown at it is RefreshLock. Both Opengl & Directx games work well I have not had the problems associated with other proggies I've used for this purpose. Has a small footprint too, and you fire it up only as needed. Not required to sit in the systray all the time.

Sep 5, 2002, 01:29 AM	#1
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	Will XP SERVICE PACK 1 fix the REFRESH rate problem with gaming. This has probably been discussed before but will this service pack fix the low graphic and low refresh rate of games. I hope this fixes the issue with this. I cannot stand to see the flickering of the screen in games. If it has been fixed, Please let me know. later pete __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

Sep 5, 2002, 11:15 AM	#3
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	The Refresh Problem, still persists. It has been suggested that M$ has fixed the refresh problem fo Direct X games, although i have seen no evidence of this myself on my machine. The best thing to do is to find a program that works for your machine, I use reforce, just do a search on Google and you will find it. Best of luck. Bill. BTW check PM __________________ Bill

Sep 10, 2002, 05:03 PM	Thread Starter #5
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	Update Microsoft has fixed the Direct3d games but not OpenGL What you have to do is override the directdraw in directx Diagnostic tool. In windows XP under its interface with directx 8.1, this is how to fix that. 1. Click Start 2. all programs (old interface programs) 3. goto accessories 4. system tools 5. click system information 6. wait 7. Now on system information click tools 8. drop to directX diagnostic tool and click it 9. wait a minute til it loads 10. Click the more help button 11. a little tweak located at the bottom 12. "Click this button to override Directdraw's Refresh Rate" 13. CLICK IT 14. on the next screen click bullet beside override value 15. Enter in your refresh rate value BuT BeWaRe ThAt YoU Do NoT PuT A VaLuE ThErE ThAt YoUr MoNiToR CaN NoT SuPpOrT. 16. Click Okay 17. Then Restart to make sure that it is the value is put into the system. That's for directDraw Games. BUT Microsoft has to Fix the Opengl Now. later pete __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

Sep 12, 2002, 04:44 AM	#10
Frodo301 Outraged Join Date: May 2002 Location: The mountains Posts: 584 Rep Power: 0	I've tried the Override DirectDraw refresh and have not noticed any difference in refresh rate. The only thing that I've found that seems to work really well for everything I've thrown at it is RefreshLock. Both Opengl & Directx games work well I have not had the problems associated with other proggies I've used for this purpose. Has a small footprint too, and you fire it up only as needed. Not required to sit in the systray all the time. __________________ The greatest thing you'll every learn is to love, and be loved in return.

Sep 5, 2002, 02:14 AM	#2
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	i belive that is already a patch for the refresh rate problem but i assume that the patch is also included in the Servoce pack

Sep 11, 2002, 08:24 PM	#8
Ben_UK DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK - Nottingham Posts: 106 Rep Power: 0	Not installed SP1 yet, am waiting for ATI to release some officail drivers before i format I have been told MS have fixed it for D3D, but no OpenGL So it looks like u will still need a refresh fix progarm Are MS trying to get rid of openGL