Internet Explorer is the best browser in the world

Zardon · Jul 23, 2004, 10:10 AM

A MAN has claimed that the Microsoft browser is the best browser in the world.

Scott Stearns, IE Test Manager at Microsoft makes the astonishing claim on the IE Blog.

Stearns says: "I really love browsing with IE".

He continues: "I realize that statement will cause some people to chuckle based on current press on security issues and perceived lack of innovation, but that is my job".

Isn't it our job to make people chuckle, Scott?

He adds that if you want to try out the latest IE browser, he encourages you to download and run the latest release candidate for Windows XP service pack two.

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Zelig · Jul 23, 2004, 02:07 PM

Oh, for a second when I saw the thread, I thought you had gone insane, Zardon.

Judas · Jul 23, 2004, 04:47 PM

rotfl... bah.... i thing with the latest SP... it really is indeed kickass!

Dom · Jul 23, 2004, 04:57 PM

LOL. IE is the best!

Zardon · Jul 23, 2004, 05:33 PM

)I like IE, one of the few. dont use it exclusively mind you, but its not as bad as everyone makes out. I always know im going to see the page the way its meant to be seen (almost typed played there mmm

)

swimtech · Jul 23, 2004, 05:43 PM

It's got leaks, but it runs out well...

Used it exclusively since version 3.0 - even when the workplace was Netscaped I rebelled and stuck with it. Now the workplace is IE'd, and it was the users that called the ball for themselves - not the software IT people. That user experience is why IE is overall the best and most used browser.

El Kapitano · Jul 23, 2004, 06:08 PM

Yep, gotta agree, I'm currently using firefox browser and thunderbird email client and I've got to say I'm more comfortable with IE and OE. If they get their security act together and add tabbed browsing that would definately win me back again.-

Buddahpest · Jul 23, 2004, 10:33 PM

I have to admit, even with all of IE's flaws, I still like it the best. I think it's the interface that I like the most. I do use Avant Browser however, which is pretty much just a dressed up version of IE.

Zelig · Jul 24, 2004, 12:29 AM

Bah, I hate IE, it doesn't support new web standards, and has a huge amount of security holes.

If I can't view a site properly with either Firefox or Opera, it's either coded wrong, or at least badly.

El Kapitano · Jul 25, 2004, 12:44 AM

Ah but SP2 is out soon, plus all the negative pubicity over IE might finally make the slow moving behemoth that si MS to do something sensible; like listen to it's critics.

LeanWolf · Jul 25, 2004, 01:25 AM

i used to use ie until i recently tried ff. i've gotta say i like the customisable toolbars, popup blocker and tabs. When I last tried an alternative browser (opera), i was disgusted by the huge banner and loads of pages that just didn't look right. I'm sure they've fixed all that by now but it pissed me off so much i'll not likely go back. ff on the other hand has thoroughly impressed me! thanks to all the security holes in ie i was forced to experiment again and this time it paid off, big time!

BWX · Jul 25, 2004, 02:19 AM

IE's interface is 10x better than FF- FF is clunky and downright slow compared to IE- FF is also not as stable as IE. The way it handles favorites is ridiculous, what ever happened to the right click? What happened to scrolling in test boxes with the middle mouse button click? All kinds of annoyances, really to many to list.. You get used to IE6's intuitive interface and it's hard to use FireFox..

I just set FF to my default browser and IE keeps taking back over again for some reason, maybe I should let it keep the position.. All the extensions in the world won't fix all the little bugs..

On the other hand there are a lot of features (after the extension installation process) in FireFox that I wish IE6 had, and that I really don't want to live without- Specific image and ad-blocking are a necessity, why IE doesn't have something similar is a mystery.. Little things like faster scrolling favorites menus are hard to live without too-

If I knew how to do it, I could build the perfect browser by combining traits of both FireFox and IE6- mostly traits from IE would consist of user interface and the overall "feel" of the controls- and the traits from FF would be some of the features and extensions you can install...

I wish I knew how to do it- I'd be a much happier camper..

Babalou · Jul 25, 2004, 02:24 AM

I'm an IE fan myself..
I've tried the rest, and came back to the best!

Zelig · Jul 25, 2004, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by BWX
IE's interface is 10x better than FF- FF is clunky and downright slow compared to IE- FF is also not as stable as IE. The way it handles favorites is ridiculous, what ever happened to the right click? What happened to scrolling in test boxes with the middle mouse button click? All kinds of annoyances, really to many to list.. You get used to IE6's intuitive interface and it's hard to use FireFox..

I'd try to defend FF, but don't use it enough to do it justice... Opera however, doesn't have these problems... well, the default UI has some problems, but it's easily customizable to look however you want, and they've even got an IE pack, that makes it look and behave almost exactly like IE.

RIV@NVX · Jul 25, 2004, 02:26 PM

Most of things BWX mentions as advantages of IE I consider disadvantages (User interface... I have seen better. Favorites? That's probably the worst way of managing them I have ever seen in a browser). I have used it for some time (IE5 & IE6), but I wouldn't use it again after trying Firefox.

Zardon · Jul 25, 2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Zelig
Bah, I hate IE, it doesn't support new web standards, and has a huge amount of security holes.

If I can't view a site properly with either Firefox or Opera, it's either coded wrong, or at least badly.

indeed I agree, but you could say the same about windows/linux. All depends if you want to spend time battling with getting things to look and work right or just want it all working "out of the box". you know if you are running IE the websites will display and correctly, regardless of poor coding or sloppy browser standards.

I dont know how many times ive been running firefox, only to have to revert to IE to get the offending website to work correctly. its happened so many times, I simply can barely be arsed to run anything else anymore - especially when im reinstalling an OS every other week.

Zelig · Jul 25, 2004, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
I dont know how many times ive been running firefox, only to have to revert to IE to get the offending website to work correctly. its happened so many times, I simply can barely be arsed to run anything else anymore - especially when im reinstalling an OS every other week.

Heh, that sounds exactly like what MS probably wants to hear. (except for the weekly reloading of their OS

)

PoopyTheJ · Jul 25, 2004, 05:40 PM

ROFL! IE is the best browser! LOL!

Shadow Lady · Jul 25, 2004, 06:52 PM

but it is

pr0digal jenius · Jul 25, 2004, 08:13 PM

i like IE, but i also recognize that 95% of the devious acts(viruses/malware) are spread excelusivelty thru IE...so i dont use it...plus firefox is far mroe customizeable

DamentZ · Jul 27, 2004, 01:03 AM

screw ie and firefox and those dressed up clones

opera is the best especially their new 7.5x series

Zelig · Jul 27, 2004, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by DamentZ
screw ie and firefox and those dressed up clones

opera is the best especially their new 7.5x series

There's nothing wrong with Firefox, although IMO Opera is better... however, in the last 2 versions (7.52, 7.53) there's a bug where images, and webpages continue to download even after you stop them, or even close the tab, which makes it nearly unusable for 56k users like myself.

Although this is promised to be fixed with the next version (7.55), it makes browsing the web much less enjoyable.

JLP · Jul 27, 2004, 03:30 PM

Firefox and Opera are by far the best. I don't know how I could even use IE before. It is lacking so many features and it is quite a bit slower. Not to mention all the security problems. IE is dead!

Zardon · Jul 27, 2004, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by JLP
IE is dead!

unless, like me your online banking and transferring setup, online ad setup and online server panels only work correctly in IE then its very much alive.

Zardon · Jul 27, 2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zelig
however, in the last 2 versions (7.52, 7.53) there's a bug where images, and webpages continue to download even after you stop them, or even close the tab, which makes it nearly unusable for 56k users like myself.

Although this is promised to be fixed with the next version (7.55), it makes browsing the web much less enjoyable.

thats quite a major bug, but im not surprised ive used opera on and off for the last few years its a bit of a mess generally. Which is a shame because it always had the potential to clean up.

chronicidal · Jul 27, 2004, 04:08 PM

I personally use Maxthon because it's built on IE so it supports everything that IE supports like that stuff you mentioned Zardon. But's it's still beta so I use Firefox because it's not a huge resource hog if Maxthon is buggy. But I like Maxthon's tabs better. Firefox opens new browser windowsfor links unless you press ctrl but Maxthon keeps it all together in one window.

Zardon · Jul 27, 2004, 04:11 PM

Never heard of maxthon. ill check that out later. I used to like myIE2 and netcaptor.

RIV@NVX · Jul 27, 2004, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
thats quite a major bug, but im not surprised ive used opera on and off for the last few years its a bit of a mess generally.

That's just what I'm saying about Opera, especially talking about UI part. It is powerful, it has a lot of options, but it looks way too messy.

Zardon · Jul 27, 2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by RIV@NVX
That's just what I'm saying about Opera, especially talking about UI part. It is powerful, it has a lot of options, but it looks way too messy.

Its a shame really riv@ there is so much about opera I loved and still like it (which is why I keep popping into the browser and checking out new versions). it just seems to me to be coded by a team of monkeys who release some awful coding errors and sloppy ideas and its in a constant state of patch flux - I really cant be arsed with it anymore. its more a curiousity thing for me now.

JLP · Jul 27, 2004, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
unless, like me your online banking and transferring setup, online ad setup and online server panels only work correctly in IE then its very much alive.

I would never trust my money to any bank that only works with insecure IE. And the coders of all these pages are then brain dead if they don't know how to code properly.

Jul 23, 2004, 10:10 AM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Internet Explorer is the best browser in the world A MAN has claimed that the Microsoft browser is the best browser in the world. Scott Stearns, IE Test Manager at Microsoft makes the astonishing claim on the IE Blog. Stearns says: "I really love browsing with IE". He continues: "I realize that statement will cause some people to chuckle based on current press on security issues and perceived lack of innovation, but that is my job". Isn't it our job to make people chuckle, Scott? He adds that if you want to try out the latest IE browser, he encourages you to download and run the latest release candidate for Windows XP service pack two. inquirer

Jul 23, 2004, 05:43 PM	#6
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	It's got leaks, but it runs out well... Used it exclusively since version 3.0 - even when the workplace was Netscaped I rebelled and stuck with it. Now the workplace is IE'd, and it was the users that called the ball for themselves - not the software IT people. That user experience is why IE is overall the best and most used browser. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Jul 23, 2004, 10:33 PM	#8
Buddahpest DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 218 Rep Power: 0	I have to admit, even with all of IE's flaws, I still like it the best. I think it's the interface that I like the most. I do use Avant Browser however, which is pretty much just a dressed up version of IE. __________________ Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 @ 4GHz / Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R / 8 GB (2GB x 4) G.Skill PC2 8500 / eVGA GTX 280 / Soundblaster Audigy 2 / 2x74GB Western Digital Raptor 10000 rpm in Raid 0 / 250GB Western Digital 7200 rpm / Plextor PX-716A DVD-RW / 1100W BFG PSU / Klipsch 4.1 Promedia / HP w2408h LCD / Windows Vista Ultimate x64

Jul 25, 2004, 01:25 AM	#11
LeanWolf alpha male Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Skyrim Posts: 5,714 Rep Power: 84 System Specs	i used to use ie until i recently tried ff. i've gotta say i like the customisable toolbars, popup blocker and tabs. When I last tried an alternative browser (opera), i was disgusted by the huge banner and loads of pages that just didn't look right. I'm sure they've fixed all that by now but it pissed me off so much i'll not likely go back. ff on the other hand has thoroughly impressed me! thanks to all the security holes in ie i was forced to experiment again and this time it paid off, big time! __________________

Jul 25, 2004, 02:19 AM	#12
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	IE's interface is 10x better than FF- FF is clunky and downright slow compared to IE- FF is also not as stable as IE. The way it handles favorites is ridiculous, what ever happened to the right click? What happened to scrolling in test boxes with the middle mouse button click? All kinds of annoyances, really to many to list.. You get used to IE6's intuitive interface and it's hard to use FireFox.. I just set FF to my default browser and IE keeps taking back over again for some reason, maybe I should let it keep the position.. All the extensions in the world won't fix all the little bugs.. On the other hand there are a lot of features (after the extension installation process) in FireFox that I wish IE6 had, and that I really don't want to live without- Specific image and ad-blocking are a necessity, why IE doesn't have something similar is a mystery.. Little things like faster scrolling favorites menus are hard to live without too- If I knew how to do it, I could build the perfect browser by combining traits of both FireFox and IE6- mostly traits from IE would consist of user interface and the overall "feel" of the controls- and the traits from FF would be some of the features and extensions you can install... I wish I knew how to do it- I'd be a much happier camper.. __________________

Jul 23, 2004, 02:07 PM	#2
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Oh, for a second when I saw the thread, I thought you had gone insane, Zardon.

Jul 23, 2004, 04:57 PM	#4
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	LOL. IE is the best!

Jul 23, 2004, 05:33 PM	Thread Starter #5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	)I like IE, one of the few. dont use it exclusively mind you, but its not as bad as everyone makes out. I always know im going to see the page the way its meant to be seen (almost typed played there mmm )

Jul 23, 2004, 06:08 PM	#7
El Kapitano Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 947 Rep Power: 0	Yep, gotta agree, I'm currently using firefox browser and thunderbird email client and I've got to say I'm more comfortable with IE and OE. If they get their security act together and add tabbed browsing that would definately win me back again.-

Jul 24, 2004, 12:29 AM	#9
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Bah, I hate IE, it doesn't support new web standards, and has a huge amount of security holes. If I can't view a site properly with either Firefox or Opera, it's either coded wrong, or at least badly.

Jul 25, 2004, 12:44 AM	#10
El Kapitano Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 947 Rep Power: 0	Ah but SP2 is out soon, plus all the negative pubicity over IE might finally make the slow moving behemoth that si MS to do something sensible; like listen to it's critics.

Jul 25, 2004, 02:24 AM	#13
Babalou HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 132 Rep Power: 0	I'm an IE fan myself.. I've tried the rest, and came back to the best!

Jul 25, 2004, 02:26 PM	#15
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Most of things BWX mentions as advantages of IE I consider disadvantages (User interface... I have seen better. Favorites? That's probably the worst way of managing them I have ever seen in a browser). I have used it for some time (IE5 & IE6), but I wouldn't use it again after trying Firefox.

Jul 25, 2004, 05:40 PM	#18
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	ROFL! IE is the best browser! LOL! __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Jul 25, 2004, 06:52 PM	#19
Shadow Lady Avril Fan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere in colombia, okok, bogotá city :p Posts: 1,262 Rep Power: 0	but it is __________________ Oblivion ftw

Jul 25, 2004, 08:13 PM	#20
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	i like IE, but i also recognize that 95% of the devious acts(viruses/malware) are spread excelusivelty thru IE...so i dont use it...plus firefox is far mroe customizeable

Jul 27, 2004, 01:03 AM	#21
DamentZ damentz.dontexist.net Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	screw ie and firefox and those dressed up clones opera is the best especially their new 7.5x series

Jul 27, 2004, 03:30 PM	#23
JLP DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Slovenia Posts: 249 Rep Power: 0	Firefox and Opera are by far the best. I don't know how I could even use IE before. It is lacking so many features and it is quite a bit slower. Not to mention all the security problems. IE is dead!

Jul 27, 2004, 04:08 PM	#26
chronicidal DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	I personally use Maxthon because it's built on IE so it supports everything that IE supports like that stuff you mentioned Zardon. But's it's still beta so I use Firefox because it's not a huge resource hog if Maxthon is buggy. But I like Maxthon's tabs better. Firefox opens new browser windowsfor links unless you press ctrl but Maxthon keeps it all together in one window. __________________ Why? Why not? _________________________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Sapphire Radeon 9800XT Corsair 1024mb PC-3200 Maxtor 2x 80GB w/ RAID 0 AQ3: 44,918(Total) 3DMark03: 6,629 3DMark01: 19,898

Jul 27, 2004, 04:11 PM	Thread Starter #27
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Never heard of maxthon. ill check that out later. I used to like myIE2 and netcaptor.