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Old Aug 11, 2004, 11:51 PM   #1
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XP Home + SP2 Final = 2 Problems
I'm not actually 100% sure that these new problems are related specifically to the latest final SP2 installation. But, these appear to only have developed since I installed the final version and I've been using the Betas since last summer.

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1. It seems that Windows is now stingier than ever with my RAM and resources. I'm having to reboot several times each session just to restore resources enough to do some video editing. I'm noticing that the system is now pretty much using 3/5 -> 3/4 of my 512 MB RAM after being on for a short while. And it doesn't appear to be releasing any of it when I close programs.

2. When I insert a CD into my CDRW drive, it spins for a little bit and then the computer restarts. I'm almost certain that this is related to Problem #1 in some way, but can't prove it.

I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing any of this OR does anyone have a suggestion as to where to start looking. I have a 350 WATT PSU that was installed only 5 - 6 months ago. AGAIN, however, these problems only started after installing the final SP2....so that makes it suspect in my opinion.
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try using a RAM optomizer
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What version or should I say which exact one do you use? I searched and found a few diff ones.
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2. When I insert a CD into my CDRW drive, it spins for a little bit and then the computer restarts. I'm almost certain that this is related to Problem #1 in some way, but can't prove it.
pls make following change to the Startup and Recovery setting,
uncheck the "Automatically restart" on the System failure section.
and see if you can get the error code and msg.

these Qs are about No.1...
how do you set your system pagefile and what's the setting?
do you use any memory management program and/or any system/file utility ??
any new program/driver that you're currently use and they've never been used/installed before?
and any tweak or registry hacks that has been applied after this SP2 installed?
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What version or should I say which exact one do you use? I searched and found a few diff ones.
i use FreeRAM XP Pro
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pls make following change to the Startup and Recovery setting,
uncheck the "Automatically restart" on the System failure section.
and see if you can get the error code and msg.

these Qs are about No.1...
how do you set your system pagefile and what's the setting?
do you use any memory management program and/or any system/file utility ??
any new program/driver that you're currently use and they've never been used/installed before?
and any tweak or registry hacks that has been applied after this SP2 installed?
So far, nothing's changed from before installing the SP2 final from what I had before.

I'll make that change in the Startup and Recovery settings to see if anything pops up there.

Also, I'm not using any memory manager.
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So far, nothing's changed from before installing the SP2 final from what I had before.
Judging from this sentence it seems to me that u installed SP2 over the top, and not a clean install, if this is true then you better reinstalll windows clean and install sp2 from there.
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Judging from this sentence it seems to me that u installed SP2 over the top, and not a clean install, if this is true then you better reinstalll windows clean and install sp2 from there.
Nah I did the same as Dyre, I had sp2rc1-sp2rc2, and now the final installed all over one and other, even got the dx9cbeta's cats.4.9 installed and no troubles what so ever..
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you dont need a clean XP install before applying SP2, unless you want to start over or try to get a new image file made..
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I'm also having memory issues as you can see here:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...814#post423814
Also, when my system comes under some load especially related to IDE and especially my optical drive everything pauses including mouse cursor and SOUND. My music skips and repeats until it's done panicing and sometimes the sound doesn't come back but media player keeps showing it playing. I can pause and play and it will come back then.
This happens especially when ripping CDs through media player and the drive is spinning up.
I just ripped 124CDs this weekend. What a pain.
Anyway, I'm using the latest nvidia IDE drivers. Are you? That could be the problem.
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try cacheman http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_...e=product&id=2 thats works very well.
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try cacheman http://www.outertech.com/index.php?_...e=product&id=2 thats works very well.
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OK...I know this is a belated reply to this post. (Kind of lost track of it for awhile.)

Two things I've done that 'seem' to make things quite a bit better.

1. I reset that "Restart" button as mentioned above.

2. I added enough RAM to give me 1 GB. Now, almost anytime I check the Performance, I'm seeing around 700 MB available.
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I had some issues when upgrading from SP2 RC2 to the final SP2.

It seems theres loads of issues upgrading that arent present in a slipstreamed install.

I don't have a CD burner where I am right now so I had to extract the contents of my XP CD and slipstream it into a folder on a partition and install from there.

Took a little bit to get it all setup to do but it was well worth it.
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