yet another XP quirk

Nacht · Sep 9, 2004, 04:20 AM

oh haha, i forgot about this thread! oopsy!

it was happening after i installed sp2 on my last install...then i reformatted with a slipstreamed sp2 install...it still doesnt show who is running it. the only one it shows is "System Idle Process", with, of course, "System" next to it.

i dont think it is a virus or spyware, ill update both and scan right now...
i think it might be an error with sp2...but nobody else gets it...so it's really confusing.

question answering:
yes the column is there
no, there are no "user names" listed...it's blank

PangingJr · Sep 9, 2004, 05:19 AM

thanks for replying this... all win2Ks' and XPs that i used and been using have always shown all processes in the TM accurately and never seen these columns loose its information, so i'm interested in this issue. thsis is about system security.. now you and vampy have this.. pls check this and reply.. open CMD windows, at prompt type in..

tasklist /svc

and hit enter, then copy whatever info you have in that windows and post..

this'll make it easier.. run this in CMD windows, the command will also place a text file (tasklist.txt) on your desktop..

Tasklist /svc >"%userprofile%\desktop\tasklist.txt"

for more help and info of this command line utility, type tasklist /?

PangingJr · Sep 9, 2004, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nacht

no, there are no "user names" listed...it's blank

as for that pls check the "Terminal Services" is enabled and running, if it's not then Set the service Startup type to "Automatic", and reboot your PC and see if you get the User name back.

mkk · Sep 9, 2004, 03:16 PM

Terminal Services seems to be it. Perhaps it simply doesn't start as oftenly as before after updating to SP2, as if I remember correctly it is set to Manual both before and after SP2. Might in that case be that something else that polls Terminal Services to start more oftenly pre-SP2. I'd say turn off that User Name column and forget about it.

PangingJr · Sep 9, 2004, 03:53 PM

i also think the User Name column is okay after he found out what is the actual cause..

but some of the processes are missing under the Image Name column when he sure there must be some other processes running there.. this is no good and should not be... this also indicates suspicious of the integrity of the current Windows installed.

Nacht · Sep 9, 2004, 06:27 PM

yea, that must be what it's from...i just recently went through disabling a bunch of stuff haha

only problem is, i can only get down to about 20 running processes

...ive seen others get down to 15 and such, i want to know what else i can disable heheh

PangingJr · Sep 10, 2004, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nacht

yea, that must be what it's from...i just recently went through disabling a bunch of stuff haha

only problem is, i can only get down to about 20 running processes

...ive seen others get down to 15 and such, i want to know what else i can disable heheh

that didn't give me any useful info that might help me help you.
and you have not figured out the old problems that you said or atleast i thought that you have but to go to the next questions or problems.. but i guess you don't need a help and probably don't want to know since the windows is working fine.

PangingJr · Sep 10, 2004, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nacht

only problem is, i can only get down to about 20 running processes

...ive seen others get down to 15 and such, i want to know what else i can disable heheh

and this is your new problem... don't you think that any ppls who can help you must have more information than that before they can help you.

Nacht · Sep 10, 2004, 06:04 PM

no no, i wasnt really having a "problem", i just thought it was odd that it no longer showed the user names...but as you pointed out, the terminal service seems to be what was causing it. i have it disabled, so no worries.

as for the amount of running processes, again, its not a problem...more like just a comment i was making.

PangingJr · Sep 10, 2004, 09:42 PM

I'll be damned, so all the running processes are there, just the names under the User Name column are missing lol..

Nacht · Sep 10, 2004, 09:44 PM

haha yea, sorry if i confused you..."i dont write good"

Vampyromaniac · Sep 11, 2004, 08:48 AM

Ah yes, Terminal Services is the answer to that little question of the user names

I had that disabled on my other partition, super-slim benching partition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nacht

yea, that must be what it's from...i just recently went through disabling a bunch of stuff haha

only problem is, i can only get down to about 20 running processes

...ive seen others get down to 15 and such, i want to know what else i can disable heheh

interesting, after everything gets settled in at startup (say 30 sec after entering Windows), I have 13 processes running

with these services running:

task manager shows 78 MB used..
beware though, that I may have stuff turned off that YOU would really need! research before turning stuff off

actually I can turn off a few more of those, as I don't currently need them
but this partition is getting scrapped soon anyway.
that's just my "default" list, 98% chance I don't need anything else

as for the original problem, I still haven't found a fix, but still haven't read everything in a huge link Net gave me. I think it won't bother me too much after I get used to it.

Nacht · Sep 11, 2004, 04:59 PM

and this is on sp2 correct?

i doubt i could get it that low, but ill keep that list in mind, thanks.

Vampyromaniac · Sep 12, 2004, 10:38 AM

oh sorry . . . no, I only have sp1

Sep 9, 2004, 05:19 AM	#32
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	thanks for replying this... all win2Ks' and XPs that i used and been using have always shown all processes in the TM accurately and never seen these columns loose its information, so i'm interested in this issue. thsis is about system security.. now you and vampy have this.. pls check this and reply.. open CMD windows, at prompt type in.. tasklist /svc and hit enter, then copy whatever info you have in that windows and post.. this'll make it easier.. run this in CMD windows, the command will also place a text file (tasklist.txt) on your desktop.. Tasklist /svc >"%userprofile%\desktop\tasklist.txt" for more help and info of this command line utility, type tasklist /? Last edited by Net; Sep 9, 2004 at 06:33 AM.

Sep 12, 2004, 10:38 AM	Thread Starter #44
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Sep 9, 2004, 04:20 AM	#31
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	oh haha, i forgot about this thread! oopsy! it was happening after i installed sp2 on my last install...then i reformatted with a slipstreamed sp2 install...it still doesnt show who is running it. the only one it shows is "System Idle Process", with, of course, "System" next to it. i dont think it is a virus or spyware, ill update both and scan right now... i think it might be an error with sp2...but nobody else gets it...so it's really confusing. question answering: yes the column is there no, there are no "user names" listed...it's blank

Sep 9, 2004, 03:16 PM	#34
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Terminal Services seems to be it. Perhaps it simply doesn't start as oftenly as before after updating to SP2, as if I remember correctly it is set to Manual both before and after SP2. Might in that case be that something else that polls Terminal Services to start more oftenly pre-SP2. I'd say turn off that User Name column and forget about it.

Sep 9, 2004, 03:53 PM	#35
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i also think the User Name column is okay after he found out what is the actual cause.. but some of the processes are missing under the Image Name column when he sure there must be some other processes running there.. this is no good and should not be... this also indicates suspicious of the integrity of the current Windows installed.

Sep 9, 2004, 06:27 PM	#36
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	yea, that must be what it's from...i just recently went through disabling a bunch of stuff haha only problem is, i can only get down to about 20 running processes ...ive seen others get down to 15 and such, i want to know what else i can disable heheh

Sep 10, 2004, 06:04 PM	#39
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	no no, i wasnt really having a "problem", i just thought it was odd that it no longer showed the user names...but as you pointed out, the terminal service seems to be what was causing it. i have it disabled, so no worries. as for the amount of running processes, again, its not a problem...more like just a comment i was making.

Sep 10, 2004, 09:42 PM	#40
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	I'll be damned, so all the running processes are there, just the names under the User Name column are missing lol..

Sep 10, 2004, 09:44 PM	#41
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	haha yea, sorry if i confused you..."i dont write good"

Sep 11, 2004, 04:59 PM	#43
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	and this is on sp2 correct? i doubt i could get it that low, but ill keep that list in mind, thanks.