Service pack 2

Falstaff · Sep 28, 2004, 04:44 AM

I know that this might be the ad nauseum latest thread about SP2, but I have talked to OEM folks and builders in the Mom and the Pops and they all have mixed emotions and opinions about it, what do you all think?

Judas · Sep 28, 2004, 04:46 AM

i'm on the same track as MS.... don't wait to get it installed... ASAP....

Falstaff · Sep 28, 2004, 04:48 AM

I have heard some negative comments from laptop peoples

eggs420 · Sep 28, 2004, 04:54 AM

Two desktops and a laptop myself fine..Few clients with minor hiccups but not a single fatal issue that I've seen yet.

Judas · Sep 28, 2004, 05:15 AM

i've installed the SP2 on nearly every single one of the machines i've built along with half a dozen laptops/notebooks and various others..... i only have encounter problems when programs are running while installing (someone else installed it)... OR when services have been disabled without my knowing..

Frankly, i've had absalutely ZERO issues installing it through slipstream.... it's pretty well fool proof that way (no offence, just a saying)

Paladine · Sep 28, 2004, 06:40 AM

Built 4 machines for others lately and SP2 has them running just fine. As for myself, I have had some issues with burning DVD's that I never had before, that being reading errors with Blanks, but I have managed to get around it.

Dom · Sep 28, 2004, 07:06 AM

Nothing, I ran it and I dont have a problem yet.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Sep 28, 2004, 07:36 AM

I've heard about, read, and experienced first hand a myriad of problems with the initial "Final" release of SP2. I'm avoiding until
it becomes absolutely mandatory to have.

~~HawK~~ · Sep 28, 2004, 08:02 AM

Main thing SP needs is a good working Computer...
And needs to be free of any Virus - Adware -sniffers -spyware and other cr@p..

If not; you'll bound to run in trouble.

So the best way would be a clean (slipstreamed) XP-SP2 install.
SP2 is IMM the best that MS has brewed in years, still not perfect but then who'd buy Longrun ..euh Longhorn

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 28, 2004, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallang_jeff

I have heard some negative comments from laptop peoples

"what cha talking bout willus?" j/k yea laptop top owens had troubles with SP1 also

I've never haved trouble on a desktop pc with any ms service pack...
...lap tops are another story

MythicaL · Sep 28, 2004, 10:35 AM

Works perfectly fine for me

M_A_D · Sep 28, 2004, 11:02 AM

no problems with either my laptop nor the pcs...

mkk · Sep 28, 2004, 11:25 AM

No real problems, but certainly a number of annoyances. (thus picking two poll choices) I didn't have any real need to install SP2 by any means, but after having fixed up a slipstreamed XP installation it's just easier to go with it. Reinstalling Windows a couple of times a year remains to be a good idea.

Shinjikun · Sep 28, 2004, 03:37 PM

Unless a major issue comes up I won't apply service pack 2 for a long time. I don't feel the need to go around breaking anything w/a service pack I don't need. SP1, Sygate, and a good virus scanner are enough for me. Next time I format and the industry catches up to SP2 in general then I'll consider it.

Falstaff · Sep 29, 2004, 04:09 AM

I spoke to three of our local builders in town recently on my journey to find the ultimate cooling case mod, I found the consensus of opinion from the service standpoint is the casual user and problems with SP2 and non-microsoft programs, I asked Jon Bish, aka Wildchild and he echoed the same sentiments. If your experienced, you can get around the Nero patch problems and various patches and fixes to compliment the changes in the OS with the patch, but I also heard you absolutely cannot uninstall the SP without dire consequences. Again, the tech support folks are adamant about waiting till all the bugs are worked out in the product before they will install it on all their builds, some have gone so far as to print and handout disclaimers to customers if they download it, and have issues.

Shinjikun · Sep 29, 2004, 04:34 AM

[color=#eeeeee]This is an opinionated topic. My 'base' profession is a computer technician and I've worked for different computer manufacturers so I can get around the problems, patching, etc. However I am a perfectionist; it takes me about 15 hours to setup my computer the way I want it from format to 'sit back and enjoy' so to speak so adding additional work on top of that for no reason is something I'm not prepared to do -- nor risking a format either.[/color]

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[color=#eeeeee]SP2 doesn't add anything significant that I need right now besides incompatibility with various applications that I use. I'm not guaranteed any headaches by installing SP2 but the potential is there so I will wait a few months before making the upgrade and when I do it will be part of the next full format. Again, each to his own. Some people feel the need to have SP2 on their systems RIGHT NOW and if so then it's their choice. Hopefully they won't encounter any issues along the way that will cause them loss of data or just plain ol' inconvenience.[/color]

LeanWolf · Sep 29, 2004, 09:37 AM

i've had no problems so far with my laptop or my office machine;
i agree that it's nothing earth-shatteringly necessary either..

PangingJr · Sep 29, 2004, 10:24 AM

Nothing, I ran it and I dont have a problem.

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 595,000 for XP service pack 2 problem. (0.16 seconds)
Web Results 1 - 10 of about 450,000 for XP service pack 2 no problem. (0.11 seconds)

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 41,500 for XP service pack 2 the worst. (0.12 seconds)
Web Results 1 - 10 of about 837,000 for XP service pack 2 the best. (0.13 seconds)

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 51,500 for XP service pack 2 the worse. (0.18 seconds)
Web Results 1 - 10 of about 561,000 for XP service pack 2 the better. (0.34 seconds)

View Poll Results: What impact has SP2 had on your OS or your life.
Nothing, I ran it and I dont have a problem yet.	19	79.17%
My God, What have I done (problems please describe)	2	8.33%
just another bug ridden service pack, more trouble than its worth	5	20.83%
I love a challenge, gimme the sdk and let me beta to my hearts content.	0	0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 24. This poll is closed

Sep 28, 2004, 04:44 AM	#1
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Service pack 2 I know that this might be the ad nauseum latest thread about SP2, but I have talked to OEM folks and builders in the Mom and the Pops and they all have mixed emotions and opinions about it, what do you all think? __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Sep 28, 2004, 04:48 AM	Thread Starter #3
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I have heard some negative comments from laptop peoples __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Sep 28, 2004, 04:54 AM	#4
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Sep 28, 2004, 06:40 AM	#6
Paladine DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Built 4 machines for others lately and SP2 has them running just fine. As for myself, I have had some issues with burning DVD's that I never had before, that being reading errors with Blanks, but I have managed to get around it. __________________

Sep 28, 2004, 07:06 AM	#7
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Nothing, I ran it and I dont have a problem yet.

Sep 28, 2004, 07:36 AM	#8
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 718 Rep Power: 0	I've heard about, read, and experienced first hand a myriad of problems with the initial "Final" release of SP2. I'm avoiding until it becomes absolutely mandatory to have.

Sep 28, 2004, 08:02 AM	#9
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	Main thing SP needs is a good working Computer... And needs to be free of any Virus - Adware -sniffers -spyware and other cr@p.. If not; you'll bound to run in trouble. So the best way would be a clean (slipstreamed) XP-SP2 install. SP2 is IMM the best that MS has brewed in years, still not perfect but then who'd buy Longrun ..euh Longhorn

Sep 28, 2004, 10:35 AM	#11
MythicaL I like computers. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In front of a monitor Posts: 3,399 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	Works perfectly fine for me __________________ Always knew I didn't belong in this world. I wasn't made for this. But I'll never forget those who betrayed me, and those who never failed my trust.

Sep 28, 2004, 11:02 AM	#12
M_A_D DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Austria Posts: 72 Rep Power: 0	no problems with either my laptop nor the pcs... __________________ "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." Richard Cook

Sep 28, 2004, 11:25 AM	#13
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	No real problems, but certainly a number of annoyances. (thus picking two poll choices) I didn't have any real need to install SP2 by any means, but after having fixed up a slipstreamed XP installation it's just easier to go with it. Reinstalling Windows a couple of times a year remains to be a good idea.

Sep 28, 2004, 03:37 PM	#14
Shinjikun 第3 子供 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nerv HQ Posts: 1,319 Rep Power: 0	Unless a major issue comes up I won't apply service pack 2 for a long time. I don't feel the need to go around breaking anything w/a service pack I don't need. SP1, Sygate, and a good virus scanner are enough for me. Next time I format and the industry catches up to SP2 in general then I'll consider it. __________________ Xfire: [Shinji1225 \ Status] A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB) Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5) [color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color] [color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

Sep 29, 2004, 04:09 AM	Thread Starter #15
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I spoke to three of our local builders in town recently on my journey to find the ultimate cooling case mod, I found the consensus of opinion from the service standpoint is the casual user and problems with SP2 and non-microsoft programs, I asked Jon Bish, aka Wildchild and he echoed the same sentiments. If your experienced, you can get around the Nero patch problems and various patches and fixes to compliment the changes in the OS with the patch, but I also heard you absolutely cannot uninstall the SP without dire consequences. Again, the tech support folks are adamant about waiting till all the bugs are worked out in the product before they will install it on all their builds, some have gone so far as to print and handout disclaimers to customers if they download it, and have issues. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Sep 29, 2004, 04:34 AM	#16
Shinjikun 第3 子供 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nerv HQ Posts: 1,319 Rep Power: 0	[color=#eeeeee]This is an opinionated topic. My 'base' profession is a computer technician and I've worked for different computer manufacturers so I can get around the problems, patching, etc. However I am a perfectionist; it takes me about 15 hours to setup my computer the way I want it from format to 'sit back and enjoy' so to speak so adding additional work on top of that for no reason is something I'm not prepared to do -- nor risking a format either.[/color] [color=#eeeeee] [/color] [color=#eeeeee]SP2 doesn't add anything significant that I need right now besides incompatibility with various applications that I use. I'm not guaranteed any headaches by installing SP2 but the potential is there so I will wait a few months before making the upgrade and when I do it will be part of the next full format. Again, each to his own. Some people feel the need to have SP2 on their systems RIGHT NOW and if so then it's their choice. Hopefully they won't encounter any issues along the way that will cause them loss of data or just plain ol' inconvenience.[/color] __________________ Xfire: [Shinji1225 \ Status] A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB) Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5) [color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color] [color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

Sep 29, 2004, 09:37 AM	#17
LeanWolf alpha male Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Skyrim Posts: 5,714 Rep Power: 84 System Specs	i've had no problems so far with my laptop or my office machine; i agree that it's nothing earth-shatteringly necessary either.. __________________

Sep 29, 2004, 10:24 AM	#18
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	Nothing, I ran it and I dont have a problem. Web Results 1 - 10 of about 595,000 for XP service pack 2 problem. (0.16 seconds) Web Results 1 - 10 of about 450,000 for XP service pack 2 no problem. (0.11 seconds) Web Results 1 - 10 of about 41,500 for XP service pack 2 the worst. (0.12 seconds) Web Results 1 - 10 of about 837,000 for XP service pack 2 the best. (0.13 seconds) Web Results 1 - 10 of about 51,500 for XP service pack 2 the worse. (0.18 seconds) Web Results 1 - 10 of about 561,000 for XP service pack 2 the better. (0.34 seconds)