Is it normal for this many processes in Task Manager

DJSilverBack · Oct 10, 2004, 03:54 PM

Hiya,

Ive just updated my RAM from 512MB To 1GB 400DDR RAM and gameplay is much better.

But I was thinking if I had less processes in my task manager I would have more available RAM free for my games.

Ive got 46 processes running from start up, is this normal or is it too much?

And which ones can I end, usually If I just keep trying to end tasks eventually my computer goes into shutdown cause Ive ended a task I shouldnt and I have to wait for it to restart.

SilverBack

Shinjikun · Oct 10, 2004, 04:15 PM

46 processes is a bit high, but it might be required due to your installed software and hardware config. If you're concerned about that many processes you can go throug your startup list (MSCONFIG) and services and disable what you don't need if you haven't done so already.

Also for those services that you DO need; yet don't need for gaming you can close them out before you do something that's resource intensive. I have about 33 processes running but before I play games I close out the onces that I don't need (some manually, most using a program called KillProcess) in order to free up resouces for the games.

DJSilverBack · Oct 10, 2004, 04:27 PM

If I close stuff through MSCONFIG when I restart the PC it generally tells me every time that MSCONFIG has been modified blah blah

SilverBack

Son_of_Thunder · Oct 10, 2004, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJSilverBack

If I close stuff through MSCONFIG when I restart the PC it generally tells me every time that MSCONFIG has been modified blah blah

SilverBack

that is correct...it will tell you that. just check the box that says "don't show this message when i boot up, don't enter msconfig" and click ok.

zerodamage · Oct 10, 2004, 06:43 PM

You do NOT want to disable services in msconfig. If you are using win2k or winxp, you want to go through the administration icon in the control panel and properly disabled them there.

Shinjikun · Oct 10, 2004, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerodamage

You do NOT want to disable services in msconfig. If you are using win2k or winxp, you want to go through the administration icon in the control panel and properly disabled them there.

Correct; I should have included that in my previous post.

Nacht · Oct 10, 2004, 07:28 PM

use services.msc to do it...although you have to use msconfig to control startup items AFAIK

dle3 · Oct 10, 2004, 10:17 PM

Holy shit! 46 processes? I have only 14...

Vampyromaniac · Oct 10, 2004, 10:30 PM

46 does seem high, even by this poll's standards, which I was already surprised at how many most people had running at startup

DJSilverBack · Oct 10, 2004, 10:49 PM

Ok so what must I need running and what can I close?

I remember the old days when It was just 3 processes!

So do I just go to sysconfig and click disable all as this will re enable the ones it has to have? Just wondering about stuff like bluetooth, if they are switched off at startup will they all still load as normal?

SilverBack

Vampyromaniac · Oct 10, 2004, 11:12 PM

Do NOT blindly disable all of anything. There could be stuff you really need.

Can you post a screenshot of your current list? Startup items, services, processes; any and all.

DJSilverBack · Oct 10, 2004, 11:16 PM

Do you know of any screenshot progs I can use to take the pic? Havent got any progs to do this.

Cheers

SilverBack

swimtech · Oct 10, 2004, 11:26 PM

As an aside to your post DJSilverBack, you may want to check out this site

http://www.blackviper.com/

for some of the best information on Windows processes and services, what they do, and how to properly disable them.

CaptinSxb · Oct 10, 2004, 11:27 PM

use ctrl + prnt scr and then past it in paint

DJSilverBack · Oct 10, 2004, 11:36 PM

OK done that, how do I upload the pic?

SB

Genius · Oct 11, 2004, 03:07 AM

Check out this site for a handy utility for managing startup applications. I use this all the time and it's far more convenient than msconfig and faster than manually editing the registry. It will put an icon in your control panel to manage the standard startup applications without the clutter of services, etc

DigitalisAkujin · Oct 11, 2004, 03:37 AM

Personally I have 50 right now and thats on the "normal" side. Only once I get to 70 does my desktop really get cluttered.

dle3 · Oct 11, 2004, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalisAkujin

Personally I have 50 right now and thats on the "normal" side. Only once I get to 70 does my desktop really get cluttered.

Oh my God! You must hate your computer...

DigitalisAkujin · Oct 11, 2004, 08:59 AM

No...I just use it to the max at all times. And luckily my hard drives, CPU, and ram is still alive. I also treat my PC good and don't overclock my machine AND expect it to run 24/7 for months on end.

At the same time my PC did just crash 3 times with a random restart. But I think thats associated with my ATI 9800 Pro AIW. O well shit will work out.

ChoGGi · Oct 11, 2004, 03:15 PM

if you want to post a hijackthis log i can give you a list of what it is (most of it)

you can grab it here
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
run it pick scan then save log

or if you want to do it yourself
http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
this is a short list of the most common
http://www.lafn.org/webconnect/mentor/startup/

Nickyboy · Oct 11, 2004, 08:05 PM

http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...s/tasklist.htm i find this site quite useful too

Nicky.

Mole1995 · Oct 12, 2004, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjikun

Also for those services that you DO need; yet don't need for gaming you can close them out before you do something that's resource intensive. I have about 33 processes running but before I play games I close out the onces that I don't need (some manually, most using a program called KillProcess) in order to free up resouces for the games.

To do this, I setup up a separate hardware profile and user account, using the Bare Bones info on Black Vipers site as a guide and the Startup Control Panel to move startup items. Then when I wanna game, I reboot to the "gaming" profile and Gaming user account and the computer loads with minimal services, streamlined for gaming!

Shinjikun · Oct 12, 2004, 02:08 AM

Try www.photobucket.com.

JAYAR · Oct 18, 2004, 02:22 AM

I only have 29 Processes running at startup, which is only Norton and my keyboard shortcuts.

Scar_T · Oct 18, 2004, 08:58 PM

I have 31 process started and it's quite normal in my system, of course i dont open many things, but i think even opening many the list wouldnt go so high

Son_of_Thunder · Oct 18, 2004, 09:17 PM

18 on my desktop, 24 on my laptop

Oct 10, 2004, 03:54 PM	#1
DJSilverBack DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Is it normal for this many processes in Task Manager Hiya, Ive just updated my RAM from 512MB To 1GB 400DDR RAM and gameplay is much better. But I was thinking if I had less processes in my task manager I would have more available RAM free for my games. Ive got 46 processes running from start up, is this normal or is it too much? And which ones can I end, usually If I just keep trying to end tasks eventually my computer goes into shutdown cause Ive ended a task I shouldnt and I have to wait for it to restart. SilverBack

Oct 10, 2004, 04:15 PM	#2
Shinjikun 第3 子供 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nerv HQ Posts: 1,319 Rep Power: 0	46 processes is a bit high, but it might be required due to your installed software and hardware config. If you're concerned about that many processes you can go throug your startup list (MSCONFIG) and services and disable what you don't need if you haven't done so already. Also for those services that you DO need; yet don't need for gaming you can close them out before you do something that's resource intensive. I have about 33 processes running but before I play games I close out the onces that I don't need (some manually, most using a program called KillProcess) in order to free up resouces for the games. __________________ Xfire: [Shinji1225 \ Status] A7N8X-E Deluxe Athlon XP 2500+ (@ 2.2 GHz 11x200 MHz FSB) Corsair TwinX XMS 1GB PC3200 Dual Channel (2-2-3-5) [color=red]ATi [/color][color=white]Radeon 9500 Pro (@ 330\310) \ [/color][color=white]Omega Catalyst Drivers v2.5.90[/color] [color=white]Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU[/color]

Oct 10, 2004, 04:27 PM	Thread Starter #3
DJSilverBack DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Free space If I close stuff through MSCONFIG when I restart the PC it generally tells me every time that MSCONFIG has been modified blah blah SilverBack

Oct 10, 2004, 10:30 PM	#9
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	46 does seem high, even by this poll's standards, which I was already surprised at how many most people had running at startup __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Oct 10, 2004, 10:49 PM	Thread Starter #10
DJSilverBack DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	46 Ok so what must I need running and what can I close? I remember the old days when It was just 3 processes! So do I just go to sysconfig and click disable all as this will re enable the ones it has to have? Just wondering about stuff like bluetooth, if they are switched off at startup will they all still load as normal? SilverBack

Oct 10, 2004, 06:43 PM	#5
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	You do NOT want to disable services in msconfig. If you are using win2k or winxp, you want to go through the administration icon in the control panel and properly disabled them there.

Oct 10, 2004, 07:28 PM	#7
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	use services.msc to do it...although you have to use msconfig to control startup items AFAIK

Oct 10, 2004, 10:17 PM	#8
dle3 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Holy shit! 46 processes? I have only 14...

Oct 10, 2004, 11:12 PM	#11
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Do NOT blindly disable all of anything. There could be stuff you really need. Can you post a screenshot of your current list? Startup items, services, processes; any and all. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Oct 10, 2004, 11:16 PM	Thread Starter #12
DJSilverBack DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Screenshot Do you know of any screenshot progs I can use to take the pic? Havent got any progs to do this. Cheers SilverBack

Oct 10, 2004, 11:26 PM	#13
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Services descriptions... As an aside to your post DJSilverBack, you may want to check out this site http://www.blackviper.com/ for some of the best information on Windows processes and services, what they do, and how to properly disable them. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

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Oct 10, 2004, 11:36 PM	Thread Starter #15
DJSilverBack DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Processes OK done that, how do I upload the pic? SB

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Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	Check out this site for a handy utility for managing startup applications. I use this all the time and it's far more convenient than msconfig and faster than manually editing the registry. It will put an icon in your control panel to manage the standard startup applications without the clutter of services, etc __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

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DigitalisAkujin DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, PA, USA Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Personally I have 50 right now and thats on the "normal" side. Only once I get to 70 does my desktop really get cluttered. __________________

Oct 11, 2004, 08:59 AM	#19
DigitalisAkujin DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holland, PA, USA Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	No...I just use it to the max at all times. And luckily my hard drives, CPU, and ram is still alive. I also treat my PC good and don't overclock my machine AND expect it to run 24/7 for months on end. At the same time my PC did just crash 3 times with a random restart. But I think thats associated with my ATI 9800 Pro AIW. O well shit will work out. __________________

Oct 11, 2004, 03:15 PM	#20
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	if you want to post a hijackthis log i can give you a list of what it is (most of it) you can grab it here http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html run it pick scan then save log or if you want to do it yourself http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php this is a short list of the most common http://www.lafn.org/webconnect/mentor/startup/ __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Oct 11, 2004, 08:05 PM	#21
Nickyboy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...s/tasklist.htm i find this site quite useful too Nicky.

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Oct 18, 2004, 02:22 AM	#24
JAYAR DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	I only have 29 Processes running at startup, which is only Norton and my keyboard shortcuts.

Oct 18, 2004, 08:58 PM	#25
Scar_T DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 84 Rep Power: 0	I have 31 process started and it's quite normal in my system, of course i dont open many things, but i think even opening many the list wouldnt go so high Last edited by Scar_T; Oct 18, 2004 at 09:11 PM.

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Son_of_Thunder HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,441 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	18 on my desktop, 24 on my laptop __________________