Problems with sata

ReV smokey255 · Oct 12, 2004, 01:18 AM

i need help with i tryed everything i have the floppy of the sata right and then i pick xp sata smart well i dont know its not installing
any ideas how to get sata working

amd athlon 64 3500
74 gig raptor
1gig of ocz pc 3200
600 wat enermaix
6800gt

MiDKnYtE · Oct 12, 2004, 01:32 AM

I'm guessing you are trying to install windows xp and using the f6 function?

what board are you using? some boards have multiple sata controllers. you need to make sure you are loading the correct ones. that exact situation happened to a buddy of mine with a MSI board. he mixed up which controller was which.

ReV smokey255 · Oct 12, 2004, 02:50 AM

asus a8v

MiDKnYtE · Oct 12, 2004, 03:59 AM

that board has 2 different sata controllers on it. are you sure you hooked up your drive to the right one? are you using the correct driver floppy? this is so deja vu for me.

ReV smokey255 · Oct 12, 2004, 09:36 PM

ya i am sure i made a copy of the floppy drive but umm i plugged it on the bottom one umm sata but thats where it was before it was a black plug i have two i pluged on the bottom

MiDKnYtE · Oct 12, 2004, 09:40 PM

there should be 2 different floppies, 1 for each sata controller.

what does it say on the floppy you have? via? promise?

you said you were using the bottom sata plugs. those are on the promise controller. when you boot the xp setup and run the f6 option, what does the computer say? if it says via, then you got the drives plugged in the wrong place.

El Kapitano · Oct 12, 2004, 10:04 PM

You'll always need to F6 to load the controller driver to whichever controller you are using whether you're usingg raid or not, it's still really a raid controller and probably (pre sp2?) not native to WinXP.

Just load up both controller drivers to be sure - oh and have you enabled the controller in the bios?

ReV smokey255 · Oct 13, 2004, 02:07 AM

ok this is the message i get setup could not dtermine the type one or more mass storage device installed in your system, or you have chosen to manually specify an adptar, setu

should i do winxp promise sata 378 controlller

Ubergrendle · Dec 29, 2004, 04:07 PM

My bro-in-law drops off his computer parts for me to put together...at least I picked the parts.

The Windows XP SP1 install CD cannot detect the SATA drive...its properly configured, on the right SATA port (not RAID), SATA BOOTROM enabled in BIOS. Its on an Asus AV8 Deluxe board.

Apparently WinXP cannot detect SATA yet and I need to override the install via F6 and offer a driver DISKETTE.

I haven't used 3 1/2" floppies in 3+ years.

I'm trying now to slipstream SP2 into my WinXP ISO and make my own bootable CD rom... hopefully SP2 additions will detect it. Otherwise i have to go and BUY a 3 1/2" drive... i have an old clunker that is pretty much dead.

I would have thought that SATA was a much more mature technology at this point. The fact that WinXP won't let me point to the Asus CD that the system came with is particularly galling...it requires a 3 1/2" drive.

pr0digal jenius · Dec 29, 2004, 04:23 PM

sp2 won't detect it

however, you CAN slipstream SATA/RAID drivers if you can find the txtsetup information for them.

or just pick up a $5 floppy drive for nostalgia's sake

Ubergrendle · Jan 2, 2005, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

sp2 won't detect it

however, you CAN slipstream SATA/RAID drivers if you can find the txtsetup information for them.

or just pick up a $5 floppy drive for nostalgia's sake

I'll try to slipstream the drivers another time. I picked up a Sony OEM 3 1/2" drive for $10 CAD from a ma'n'pa shop on Friday.

I first was near Best Buy, so popped in for a second...they had some generic branded "Sam-oshiba-ony" crap for...$50! I said no freaking way, and left. I was willing to pay for convenience, but not a 5-10x usuary mark-up.

farkas · Jan 2, 2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubergrendle

Apparently WinXP cannot detect SATA yet and I need to override the install via F6 and offer a driver DISKETTE.

I haven't used 3 1/2" floppies in 3+ years.

...
I would have thought that SATA was a much more mature technology at this point. The fact that WinXP won't let me point to the Asus CD that the system came with is particularly galling...it requires a 3 1/2" drive.

That's why XP wont boot directly off of it, SATA is more MATURE than XP (In the sense of newer tech that is, not maturity !)

But hey, we all went thru this ourselves, If you are slipstreaming, then make sure that you included the SATA drivers in the slipstream, cause the SP2 will not help any bit whatsoever, except maybe for the odd controller here and there. Try out NLite if you want a simple to use slipstream app, it's nice and not too complicated.

Good luck and keep us posted.

PS : It might help to read up on the actual controller that you are using, and search about it on the web (Google for example), wether it be VIA's own controller or a Promise or Sil etc... You will probably find people with similar issues and experience and they will probably have asked the questions you are asking at the moment. Long story short, they will most likely name the actual file(s) that you need to slipstream or put on a floppy !

ChoGGi · Jan 3, 2005, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubergrendle

I'm trying now to slipstream SP2 into my WinXP ISO and make my own bootable CD rom... hopefully SP2 additions will detect it. Otherwise i have to go and BUY a 3 1/2" drive... i have an old clunker that is pretty much dead.

you can use nlite to slipstream sp2 and add your raid drivers
http://nuhi.msfn.org

Oct 12, 2004, 01:18 AM	#1
ReV smokey255 John Kerry of video cards Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Rep Power: 0	Problems with sata i need help with i tryed everything i have the floppy of the sata right and then i pick xp sata smart well i dont know its not installing any ideas how to get sata working amd athlon 64 3500 74 gig raptor 1gig of ocz pc 3200 600 wat enermaix 6800gt

Dec 29, 2004, 04:07 PM	#9
Ubergrendle Semper ubi sub ubi Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 702 Rep Power: 51	just experienced the same problem My bro-in-law drops off his computer parts for me to put together...at least I picked the parts. The Windows XP SP1 install CD cannot detect the SATA drive...its properly configured, on the right SATA port (not RAID), SATA BOOTROM enabled in BIOS. Its on an Asus AV8 Deluxe board. Apparently WinXP cannot detect SATA yet and I need to override the install via F6 and offer a driver DISKETTE. I haven't used 3 1/2" floppies in 3+ years. I'm trying now to slipstream SP2 into my WinXP ISO and make my own bootable CD rom... hopefully SP2 additions will detect it. Otherwise i have to go and BUY a 3 1/2" drive... i have an old clunker that is pretty much dead. I would have thought that SATA was a much more mature technology at this point. The fact that WinXP won't let me point to the Asus CD that the system came with is particularly galling...it requires a 3 1/2" drive. __________________ Veteran of the PC Microchannel / EISA wars of the late 1980s.

Oct 12, 2004, 01:32 AM	#2
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	I'm guessing you are trying to install windows xp and using the f6 function? what board are you using? some boards have multiple sata controllers. you need to make sure you are loading the correct ones. that exact situation happened to a buddy of mine with a MSI board. he mixed up which controller was which.

Oct 12, 2004, 02:50 AM	Thread Starter #3
ReV smokey255 John Kerry of video cards Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Rep Power: 0	asus a8v

Oct 12, 2004, 03:59 AM	#4
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	that board has 2 different sata controllers on it. are you sure you hooked up your drive to the right one? are you using the correct driver floppy? this is so deja vu for me.

Oct 12, 2004, 09:36 PM	Thread Starter #5
ReV smokey255 John Kerry of video cards Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Rep Power: 0	ya i am sure i made a copy of the floppy drive but umm i plugged it on the bottom one umm sata but thats where it was before it was a black plug i have two i pluged on the bottom

Oct 12, 2004, 09:40 PM	#6
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	there should be 2 different floppies, 1 for each sata controller. what does it say on the floppy you have? via? promise? you said you were using the bottom sata plugs. those are on the promise controller. when you boot the xp setup and run the f6 option, what does the computer say? if it says via, then you got the drives plugged in the wrong place.

Oct 12, 2004, 10:04 PM	#7
El Kapitano Most of the 7 dwarfs in 1 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rochdale, Lancashire Posts: 947 Rep Power: 0	You'll always need to F6 to load the controller driver to whichever controller you are using whether you're usingg raid or not, it's still really a raid controller and probably (pre sp2?) not native to WinXP. Just load up both controller drivers to be sure - oh and have you enabled the controller in the bios?

Oct 13, 2004, 02:07 AM	Thread Starter #8
ReV smokey255 John Kerry of video cards Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Rep Power: 0	ok this is the message i get setup could not dtermine the type one or more mass storage device installed in your system, or you have chosen to manually specify an adptar, setu should i do winxp promise sata 378 controlller

Dec 29, 2004, 04:23 PM	#10
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	sp2 won't detect it however, you CAN slipstream SATA/RAID drivers if you can find the txtsetup information for them. or just pick up a $5 floppy drive for nostalgia's sake