is windows xp sp2 a good idea or a bad idea

gerard_rice · Nov 19, 2004, 03:28 PM

hey there
i was wondering about window xp sp2. i woundered if it is a bad idea to have or do many people have problems with it. i wounder is i better off with windows xp sp2? or window xp sp1? are somepeople having problems with this program or not?

Gerard Rice

Dave · Nov 19, 2004, 04:33 PM

its running fine for me. sooner or later games, applications, and even drivers are going to make windows xp service pack 2 a requirement. the best way to install it is by slipstreaming it to your windows xp cd and reformating and reinstalling windows.

No_Style · Nov 19, 2004, 05:53 PM

It's fine. Just the Security Center may cause some headaches, but it can be turned off if you want to. But there's no issue with it.

bake15 · Nov 19, 2004, 05:57 PM

Running fine,no problems

pr0digal jenius · Nov 19, 2004, 06:06 PM

it's a very good idea, as it fixes several security holes, and isn't obtrusive/annoying once you turn security center off

MiDKnYtE · Nov 19, 2004, 07:05 PM

there are definitely more pros than cons to sp2. if you have a firewall, automatic updates and antivirus, the security center won't bother you.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 19, 2004, 10:33 PM

sp2 is way better

DarkFoss · Nov 19, 2004, 11:42 PM

I also upgraded to sp2 last month and it runs fine didn't break any applications either.

Warpy · Nov 19, 2004, 11:58 PM

I am still on SP1 I have tried SP2 on my other PC and I cant really see the advnatages. To me the O/S runns slower with SP2.

Is it true that if i keep my security updates up-to date with SP1 it will be as secure as SP2?

***craig5320*** · Nov 20, 2004, 12:10 AM

You should really get SP2, like above slip stream it. or at least do a format and then put it on as the first thing, any issues hit us back and people can try and solve them for you. Much better to fix the issues if you have any than to run SP1 instead, there's vast improvements with wireless networking if you use that.

Warpy · Nov 20, 2004, 12:20 AM

ok, thanks...

Zardon · Nov 20, 2004, 12:50 AM

SP2 is definately an improvement, the security side of things is the most important, but if you do a slipstream you shouldnt notice any performance drop and you also get better wireless and bluetooth support (and more).

Warpy · Nov 20, 2004, 12:54 AM

Ummm this slipstream method, what is it... are there some tutorials on the net about it and what is the advantage with slipstreaming?

DarkFoss · Nov 20, 2004, 07:36 PM

I posted a link to a very nice guide in this thread . Basically slipstreaming allows you to do a clean install with the service pack rolled in rather than patching afterwards.

MiDKnYtE · Nov 20, 2004, 08:27 PM

try autostreamer:
http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html

Prime2515102 · Nov 21, 2004, 03:25 PM

The only problem I've had with SP2 is WinDVD 5 and 6 crashes when there's a DVD in the drive (go figure lol). They run fine playing video files though (AVI's, MPEG's ect.).

It seems like the boot time is improved somewhat with it to (not that I'd upgrade to it for a faster boot time). I'm assuming the prefetch has been improved a bit. As far as over-all system performance, I haven't noticed a difference other than that.

Prime

P.S. MiDKnYtE: Thanks for that Autostreamer link! I used it once before but I forgot the name of it and ended up using Nlite and it screwed everything up. Time to make a new disk

pham · Nov 24, 2004, 12:29 AM

hi guys,ive got windows xp pro and just installed the autostreamer program but it's not working???
get to the bit where it asks for a "target IOS FILE" , so i used the example it gave me(c:\xpstreamed.iso) the green tick showed up and then press finished.
Then get to the next stage were it says "now prepare your window to be integrated to service pack file etc..." green tick shows on the creating temporary folder and a curve shape arrow pointing at copying share to temporary folder.At this point i should be getting green bars filling up at the bottom of the screen but i'm not even getting a single bar ???
When i goto the temp folder" $autostreamer$",all thats in there are autorun,setup, read me and spnotes files ????
can anyone help plz

pham · Nov 24, 2004, 09:13 AM

I've even tried manually but cant copy the files "win51,win51ip and win51.sp1 from my window xp pro cd.

keep getting"cannot copyWIN51: the parameter is incorrect"?????

PangingJr · Nov 24, 2004, 03:35 PM

try quitting your antivirus, firewall softwares and other background programs, and also clean the disc before starting to copy files from the disc to HDD, if you still getting the same error then test the disc in a different drive.

after you fixed the copy CD problem then the slipstreaming a service pack shouldn't be any problem..

pham · Nov 25, 2004, 01:58 AM

right the autoslipstream progam is working now and i end up with a "winrare file " when it finished . Now what do i do with this file????

Prime2515102 · Nov 25, 2004, 02:28 AM

That file is an ISO. WinRAR takes the ISO exstension by default. Just open it with your CD burning program and burn it. Be sure you're burning the ISO though and not a Mode1 or Mode2 CD or you'll just end up with a CD with the ISO file on it and not Windows.

For Nero, close the wizard and go to File, open, then under "File of type" drop down list, select "Image File (*.nrg *.cue *.iso)" and browse to the file.

When it opens, select your burning speed and set it to "Disc at once" for the most reliable burn, then click burn.

Prime

pham · Nov 25, 2004, 10:05 AM

just burned my first xp with service park 2

thxs alot mate

1 more question, should i delete service 1 in "winrare iso file" before i start to burn or should i just burn everything in that file ?

PangingJr · Nov 25, 2004, 10:13 AM

yes.

pham · Nov 25, 2004, 10:16 AM

yes to which one?????

PangingJr · Nov 25, 2004, 10:25 AM

last one

PangingJr · Nov 25, 2004, 10:33 AM

assuming that you have/use the right source files then after the slipstreaming is done and the ISO file is created,
you don't have to change any contains within the ISO file, just burn it.

pham · Nov 26, 2004, 08:36 AM

Thanks for all the help guys

PangingJr · Nov 26, 2004, 11:45 AM

Glad it all worked out well. and thanks for dropping by and update us.

Nov 19, 2004, 03:28 PM	#1
gerard_rice DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Makkovik , Newfoundland Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	is windows xp sp2 a good idea or a bad idea hey there i was wondering about window xp sp2. i woundered if it is a bad idea to have or do many people have problems with it. i wounder is i better off with windows xp sp2? or window xp sp1? are somepeople having problems with this program or not? Gerard Rice

Nov 19, 2004, 04:33 PM	#2
Dave DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Strongsville, Ohio Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	its running fine for me. sooner or later games, applications, and even drivers are going to make windows xp service pack 2 a requirement. the best way to install it is by slipstreaming it to your windows xp cd and reformating and reinstalling windows. __________________ Abit AT8 Crossfire \| AMD Opteron 144 2.6GHz \| 1GB PC2700 RAM \| OCZ PowerStream 520Watt \| eVGA GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB 450MHZ Core 1200MHZ RAM \| Western Digital 120GB 8MB Cache 7200 RPM \| 2 Samsung 250GB SATAII RAID 0 \| Athenatech A602 Case \|

Nov 19, 2004, 05:53 PM	#3
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	It's fine. Just the Security Center may cause some headaches, but it can be turned off if you want to. But there's no issue with it. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Nov 19, 2004, 10:33 PM	#7
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	sp2 is way better __________________

Nov 19, 2004, 11:42 PM	#8
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	I also upgraded to sp2 last month and it runs fine didn't break any applications either. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

Nov 19, 2004, 05:57 PM	#4
bake15 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wigan,UK Posts: 582 Rep Power: 0	Running fine,no problems

Nov 19, 2004, 06:06 PM	#5
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	it's a very good idea, as it fixes several security holes, and isn't obtrusive/annoying once you turn security center off

Nov 19, 2004, 07:05 PM	#6
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	there are definitely more pros than cons to sp2. if you have a firewall, automatic updates and antivirus, the security center won't bother you.

Nov 19, 2004, 11:58 PM	#9
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	I am still on SP1 I have tried SP2 on my other PC and I cant really see the advnatages. To me the O/S runns slower with SP2. Is it true that if i keep my security updates up-to date with SP1 it will be as secure as SP2? __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Nov 20, 2004, 12:10 AM	#10
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,579 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	You should really get SP2, like above slip stream it. or at least do a format and then put it on as the first thing, any issues hit us back and people can try and solve them for you. Much better to fix the issues if you have any than to run SP1 instead, there's vast improvements with wireless networking if you use that. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Nov 20, 2004, 12:20 AM	#11
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	ok, thanks... __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Nov 20, 2004, 12:50 AM	#12
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	SP2 is definately an improvement, the security side of things is the most important, but if you do a slipstream you shouldnt notice any performance drop and you also get better wireless and bluetooth support (and more).

Nov 20, 2004, 12:54 AM	#13
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Ummm this slipstream method, what is it... are there some tutorials on the net about it and what is the advantage with slipstreaming? __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Nov 20, 2004, 07:36 PM	#14
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	I posted a link to a very nice guide in this thread . Basically slipstreaming allows you to do a clean install with the service pack rolled in rather than patching afterwards. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

Nov 20, 2004, 08:27 PM	#15
MiDKnYtE Caffeine Machine Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hell is empty. All the devils are here. Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	try autostreamer: http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html

Nov 21, 2004, 03:25 PM	#16
Prime2515102 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	The only problem I've had with SP2 is WinDVD 5 and 6 crashes when there's a DVD in the drive (go figure lol). They run fine playing video files though (AVI's, MPEG's ect.). It seems like the boot time is improved somewhat with it to (not that I'd upgrade to it for a faster boot time). I'm assuming the prefetch has been improved a bit. As far as over-all system performance, I haven't noticed a difference other than that. Prime P.S. MiDKnYtE: Thanks for that Autostreamer link! I used it once before but I forgot the name of it and ended up using Nlite and it screwed everything up. Time to make a new disk

Nov 24, 2004, 12:29 AM	#17
pham DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	hi guys,ive got windows xp pro and just installed the autostreamer program but it's not working??? get to the bit where it asks for a "target IOS FILE" , so i used the example it gave me(c:\xpstreamed.iso) the green tick showed up and then press finished. Then get to the next stage were it says "now prepare your window to be integrated to service pack file etc..." green tick shows on the creating temporary folder and a curve shape arrow pointing at copying share to temporary folder.At this point i should be getting green bars filling up at the bottom of the screen but i'm not even getting a single bar ??? When i goto the temp folder" $autostreamer$",all thats in there are autorun,setup, read me and spnotes files ???? can anyone help plz

Nov 24, 2004, 09:13 AM	#18
pham DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	I've even tried manually but cant copy the files "win51,win51ip and win51.sp1 from my window xp pro cd. keep getting"cannot copyWIN51: the parameter is incorrect"?????

Nov 24, 2004, 03:35 PM	#19
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	try quitting your antivirus, firewall softwares and other background programs, and also clean the disc before starting to copy files from the disc to HDD, if you still getting the same error then test the disc in a different drive. after you fixed the copy CD problem then the slipstreaming a service pack shouldn't be any problem..

Nov 25, 2004, 01:58 AM	#20
pham DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	right the autoslipstream progam is working now and i end up with a "winrare file " when it finished . Now what do i do with this file????

Nov 25, 2004, 02:28 AM	#21
Prime2515102 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	That file is an ISO. WinRAR takes the ISO exstension by default. Just open it with your CD burning program and burn it. Be sure you're burning the ISO though and not a Mode1 or Mode2 CD or you'll just end up with a CD with the ISO file on it and not Windows. For Nero, close the wizard and go to File, open, then under "File of type" drop down list, select "Image File (.nrg .cue .iso)" and browse to the file. When it opens, select your burning speed and set it to "Disc at once" for the most reliable burn, then click burn. Prime Last edited by Prime2515102; Nov 25, 2004 at 02:33 AM.*

Nov 25, 2004, 10:05 AM	#22
pham DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	just burned my first xp with service park 2 thxs alot mate 1 more question, should i delete service 1 in "winrare iso file" before i start to burn or should i just burn everything in that file ?

Nov 25, 2004, 10:13 AM	#23
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	yes.

Nov 25, 2004, 10:16 AM	#24
pham DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	yes to which one?????

Nov 25, 2004, 10:25 AM	#25
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	last one

Nov 25, 2004, 10:33 AM	#26
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	assuming that you have/use the right source files then after the slipstreaming is done and the ISO file is created, you don't have to change any contains within the ISO file, just burn it.

Nov 26, 2004, 08:36 AM	#27
pham DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for all the help guys

Nov 26, 2004, 11:45 AM	#28
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	Glad it all worked out well. and thanks for dropping by and update us.