Opera 7.5.4

Zardon · Dec 19, 2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by No_Style

I mean the "Check Documents" setting, sorry. Sundays~.. Gotta love em

.It's also for frontpage stuff. I found that if I kept it on 5 hours that I wouldn't get any updates. For instance, when I close my browser and open it back up, I wouldn't get any new news. Which forces me to click the refresh button to reload everything.

thats interesting indeed, thanks. I thought the posts on the forum updated even with "check documents" set to 1 hour or higher.

Zardon · Dec 19, 2004, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by YAYitsAndrew

I'd rather do the refresh mouse gesture (up then down with right mouse button held down) when i'm doing web dev (somewhat infrequently) than have to wait for a page to refresh everytime i go to it. If you leave the check documents setting the way it is going back and forth to pages you've already visited is instant. As fast as switching tabs (right mouse button then scroll mouse wheel).

*hides opera tips in post*

lol, very cool, the gesture works well......

No_Style · Dec 19, 2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by YAYitsAndrew

I'd rather do the refresh mouse gesture (up then down with right mouse button held down) when i'm doing web dev (somewhat infrequently) than have to wait for a page to refresh everytime i go to it. If you leave the check documents setting the way it is going back and forth to pages you've already visited is instant. As fast as switching tabs (right mouse button then scroll mouse wheel).

*hides opera tips in post*

There's no shame in tips! Opera has so much stuff in it! You have to pour it all out. I know of the features you speak of and I don't use half of them LOL.. It's especially difficult to browse with classic IE without mouse gestures, I find myself using the mouse gestures and staring at the screen with disappointment cuz the page didn't go back.

YAYitsAndrew · Dec 19, 2004, 06:12 PM

I'm way worse, I do mouse gestures in windows explorer. Off to do christmas shopping, I'll be back tonight.

rmb + down gesture to open a new window
rmb + down then right gesture (an L) to close a window.

Zardon · Dec 19, 2004, 06:17 PM

Go to previous page
hold right button, click left button
hold right button, move mouse left

Go to next page
hold left button, click right button
hold right button, move mouse right

extremely cool indeed !

Zelig · Dec 19, 2004, 06:22 PM

Regarding validating sites, ctrl+alt+v redirects to the W3 page in Opera.

The problem with needing to hit back twice because of the second ad seems to be fixed in the 7.60 previews (testing with build 7364c), I haven't had any problems with it in quite a while.

Zardon · Dec 19, 2004, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelig

Regarding validating sites, ctrl+alt+v redirects to the W3 page in Opera.

The problem with needing to hit back twice because of the second ad seems to be fixed in the 7.60 previews (testing with build 7364c), I haven't had any problems with it in quite a while.

thats great news thanks for letting me know. is 7.60 available to the public or are you a beta tester? id like a look.

Zardon · Dec 19, 2004, 06:32 PM

nevermind found it http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p3.html

Zelig · Dec 19, 2004, 06:33 PM

Beta versions are all available from the Opera forums: Opera Beta Testing

The latest preview has been stable for me up to now.

Zelig · Dec 19, 2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

nevermind found it http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p3.html

You may want to try this one instead: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p4.html

PangingJr · Dec 19, 2004, 06:42 PM

it might be because you block ads on pages that have many ads on it, then when you hit the browser back button, another request is made for each of those ads's links.

Zardon · Dec 19, 2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zelig

You may want to try this one instead: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p4.html

Thanks, that has solved the double back issue from before. now to see whats different.

I see they moved the speed and image info into the URL bar at the top from the bottom..... I quite liked it at the bottom.

Zelig · Dec 19, 2004, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Thanks, that has solved the double back issue from before. now to see whats different.

I see they moved the speed and image info into the URL bar at the top from the bottom..... I quite liked it at the bottom.

Customize toolbars > toolbars > progress bar > pop-up at bottom of page

I think that was the first thing I changed when I installed the preview.

bake15 · Dec 19, 2004, 06:59 PM

man there's so much to learn with opera

gotta love it

eggs420 · Dec 19, 2004, 07:11 PM

It's great. I use the Tobs Theatre Blue theme and it matches my windows theme _perfectly_. I do use firefox on occasion but opera's had my heart for at least a year now.

http://users.megapathdsl.net/~joe00100/opera.JPG , too lazy to resize and I don't wanna spam the dialup'ers.

Zardon · Dec 19, 2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bAKe

man there's so much to learn with opera

gotta love it

7.6 is even better !

bake15 · Dec 19, 2004, 07:58 PM

Just got it

seems easy to use compared to the last build

riles9262 · Dec 20, 2004, 12:19 AM

Damn guys, I was just contemplating installing opera again (i've always been at a toss up between opera and firefox) but this thread is getting me excited. So Zardon, the ad problem is fixed with that 7.6 beta (the double click thing)? That was the only thing that bothered me with the last build I was using (7.x) and although it was not too bad in dh, other forums (emutalk.net for one) was horrible.

One question for the opera gurus, what is the best option for opera's identification - as IE or as opera; and why? It didn't seem to change page compatibility for me at all on a prior build.

eggs420 · Dec 20, 2004, 12:30 AM

Normally you should use Opera. It is just what is sent with your http requests stating your browser and OS and such. Some sites will serve content specific to your browser, for example a diff style form for non-ie users, etc..I'd suggest using Opera unless a site refuses to load without IE, then try setting it to IE..Though honestly, as you said, it really does not help page compatibility much in general..It's completely site specific AFAIK.

Zelig · Dec 20, 2004, 12:35 AM

Yeah, set it to indentify as Opera, that way sites get more accurate statistics, other than a MS sites, very few of them target Opera specifically.

And the headers aren't completely spoofed, so any determined webmaster can detect someone using Opera anyway. (as MS sites do)

riles9262 · Dec 20, 2004, 12:51 AM

Good enough, thanks guys.

Zardon · Dec 20, 2004, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riles9262

So Zardon, the ad problem is fixed with that 7.6 beta (the double click thing)? That was the only thing that bothered me with the last build I was using (7.x) and although it was not too bad in dh, other forums (emutalk.net for one) was horrible.

Yes they have fixed it totally, works really great now.

riles9262 · Dec 20, 2004, 03:44 AM

Awesome, in that case, firefox will be put on the back burner for the next little while

YAYitsAndrew · Dec 20, 2004, 03:55 AM

I can't wait for 7.6 to release so I can start using it. Anyone beta testing it have a time frame for an official release?

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2004, 05:58 AM

Only Opera has internal roadmaps for releases of new versions of Opera. but the infomation will not be made public. i don't think beta testers have the info...

Zardon · Dec 20, 2004, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YAYitsAndrew

I can't wait for 7.6 to release so I can start using it. Anyone beta testing it have a time frame for an official release?

This beta is really solid Andrew, havent had an issue with it yet. Well worth an install and it solves the annoying "double click back" problem.

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2004, 08:37 AM

for people who already installed the Opera 7.60 technical preview 4 for Windows, make sure you have the up-to-date installer packaged which's build "7364c". not the previous installer build 7364 or 7364b.

and on behalf of all the Opera fans, Thanks to Zardon to put the D/L link up...

riles9262 · Dec 20, 2004, 07:58 PM

Wow this is a nice build...it's great even at stock. I've definitely had some fun customizing this, as there is so much to play around with

The only problem I"ve had so far is some incompatibility with hotmail where it won't delete or change stuff in the junk mail folder. The popup to confirm comes up, but when I push ok, nothing happens. Cancel works fine though...anybody have any info about this?

EDIT: nevermind, found some info here
http://my.opera.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=hotmail

PangingJr · Dec 21, 2004, 09:47 AM

saw you found the info. this is known bug/problems with the specific site, the problem is with JavaScript of the page's web page dialog. i've seen this issue has been going on for a long time now in the Opera community's forums. hopefully, this will/can be fixed soon. i'd use IE for the site, for now.

Opera still having problem with some web sites which's causing a problem most noticeably about .css and JavaScript, there're many of the Opera users out there who understands the real problem behind it and so they live with it, but there're also many people that don't understand, won't/don't accept it and lays the blame on the browser.

riles9262 · Dec 21, 2004, 04:46 PM

It's not a huge deal...you can still delete stuff from your inbox, and the junk mail folder gets cleared every so often anyway. A minor inconvenience but so far, the only one. This build is amazing...there's so much polish and choice.

Dec 19, 2004, 06:12 PM	#34
YAYitsAndrew Anti-Piracy Poster Boy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 2,605 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I'm way worse, I do mouse gestures in windows explorer. Off to do christmas shopping, I'll be back tonight. rmb + down gesture to open a new window rmb + down then right gesture (an L) to close a window. __________________ "It is because the resistance to paying for copyrighted material, although often characterized as arising from a supposed technical burden or principled concern for the public interest, arises rather from exactly the same segment of the brain that is dominant in shoplifters." - Mark Helprin, Digital Barbarism In other words, it's never okay to steal even if you think you have a good reason! www.yayitsandrew.com

Dec 19, 2004, 07:11 PM	#45
eggs420 my bud > yours Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 399 Rep Power: 0	It's great. I use the Tobs Theatre Blue theme and it matches my windows theme _perfectly_. I do use firefox on occasion but opera's had my heart for at least a year now. http://users.megapathdsl.net/~joe00100/opera.JPG , too lazy to resize and I don't wanna spam the dialup'ers. __________________ AMD64 2800+ // Chaintech VNF3-250 // 2X512mb PDI ddr400 2-3-2-5 // 80gb 7200RPM WD w/8mb cache // Leadtek 6800GT // 144kbit IDSL Clan -=CCC=- Admin 69.31.96.68 BF2 PUBLIC RANKED SERVER 205.218.65.236 BF2 DEMO SERVER

Dec 20, 2004, 12:19 AM	#48
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Damn guys, I was just contemplating installing opera again (i've always been at a toss up between opera and firefox) but this thread is getting me excited. So Zardon, the ad problem is fixed with that 7.6 beta (the double click thing)? That was the only thing that bothered me with the last build I was using (7.x) and although it was not too bad in dh, other forums (emutalk.net for one) was horrible. One question for the opera gurus, what is the best option for opera's identification - as IE or as opera; and why? It didn't seem to change page compatibility for me at all on a prior build. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Dec 20, 2004, 12:30 AM	#49
eggs420 my bud > yours Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 399 Rep Power: 0	Normally you should use Opera. It is just what is sent with your http requests stating your browser and OS and such. Some sites will serve content specific to your browser, for example a diff style form for non-ie users, etc..I'd suggest using Opera unless a site refuses to load without IE, then try setting it to IE..Though honestly, as you said, it really does not help page compatibility much in general..It's completely site specific AFAIK. __________________ AMD64 2800+ // Chaintech VNF3-250 // 2X512mb PDI ddr400 2-3-2-5 // 80gb 7200RPM WD w/8mb cache // Leadtek 6800GT // 144kbit IDSL Clan -=CCC=- Admin 69.31.96.68 BF2 PUBLIC RANKED SERVER 205.218.65.236 BF2 DEMO SERVER

Dec 20, 2004, 12:51 AM	#51
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Good enough, thanks guys. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Dec 19, 2004, 06:17 PM	Thread Starter #35
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Go to previous page hold right button, click left button hold right button, move mouse left Go to next page hold left button, click right button hold right button, move mouse right extremely cool indeed !

Dec 19, 2004, 06:22 PM	#36
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Regarding validating sites, ctrl+alt+v redirects to the W3 page in Opera. The problem with needing to hit back twice because of the second ad seems to be fixed in the 7.60 previews (testing with build 7364c), I haven't had any problems with it in quite a while.

Dec 19, 2004, 06:32 PM	Thread Starter #38
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	nevermind found it http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w760p3.html

Dec 19, 2004, 06:33 PM	#39
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Beta versions are all available from the Opera forums: Opera Beta Testing The latest preview has been stable for me up to now.

Dec 19, 2004, 06:42 PM	#41
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	it might be because you block ads on pages that have many ads on it, then when you hit the browser back button, another request is made for each of those ads's links.

Dec 19, 2004, 06:59 PM	#44
bake15 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wigan,UK Posts: 582 Rep Power: 0	man there's so much to learn with opera gotta love it

Dec 19, 2004, 07:58 PM	#47
bake15 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wigan,UK Posts: 582 Rep Power: 0	Just got it seems easy to use compared to the last build

Dec 20, 2004, 12:35 AM	#50
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Yeah, set it to indentify as Opera, that way sites get more accurate statistics, other than a MS sites, very few of them target Opera specifically. And the headers aren't completely spoofed, so any determined webmaster can detect someone using Opera anyway. (as MS sites do)

Dec 20, 2004, 03:44 AM	#53
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Awesome, in that case, firefox will be put on the back burner for the next little while __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Dec 20, 2004, 03:55 AM	#54
YAYitsAndrew Anti-Piracy Poster Boy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 2,605 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I can't wait for 7.6 to release so I can start using it. Anyone beta testing it have a time frame for an official release? __________________ "It is because the resistance to paying for copyrighted material, although often characterized as arising from a supposed technical burden or principled concern for the public interest, arises rather from exactly the same segment of the brain that is dominant in shoplifters." - Mark Helprin, Digital Barbarism In other words, it's never okay to steal even if you think you have a good reason! www.yayitsandrew.com

Dec 20, 2004, 05:58 AM	#55
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	Only Opera has internal roadmaps for releases of new versions of Opera. but the infomation will not be made public. i don't think beta testers have the info...

Dec 20, 2004, 08:37 AM	#57
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	for people who already installed the Opera 7.60 technical preview 4 for Windows, make sure you have the up-to-date installer packaged which's build "7364c". not the previous installer build 7364 or 7364b. and on behalf of all the Opera fans, Thanks to Zardon to put the D/L link up...

Dec 20, 2004, 07:58 PM	#58
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Wow this is a nice build...it's great even at stock. I've definitely had some fun customizing this, as there is so much to play around with The only problem I"ve had so far is some incompatibility with hotmail where it won't delete or change stuff in the junk mail folder. The popup to confirm comes up, but when I push ok, nothing happens. Cancel works fine though...anybody have any info about this? EDIT: nevermind, found some info here http://my.opera.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=hotmail __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Dec 21, 2004, 09:47 AM	#59
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	saw you found the info. this is known bug/problems with the specific site, the problem is with JavaScript of the page's web page dialog. i've seen this issue has been going on for a long time now in the Opera community's forums. hopefully, this will/can be fixed soon. i'd use IE for the site, for now. Opera still having problem with some web sites which's causing a problem most noticeably about .css and JavaScript, there're many of the Opera users out there who understands the real problem behind it and so they live with it, but there're also many people that don't understand, won't/don't accept it and lays the blame on the browser.

Dec 21, 2004, 04:46 PM	#60
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	It's not a huge deal...you can still delete stuff from your inbox, and the junk mail folder gets cleared every so often anyway. A minor inconvenience but so far, the only one. This build is amazing...there's so much polish and choice. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.