Microsoft does away with dual boot?

DriveEuro · Dec 12, 2002, 07:10 AM

Found a bad tidbit at www.windowsxp.nu today. Microsoft is gonna drop dual boot option on new operating systems.

WindowsXP.nu:

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Starting next year, PC makers won't be shipping dual-boot Windows desktops, as a result of a change Microsoft is making in its OEM licensing terms. Currently, some OEMs offer customers a choice of Windows versions—say, Windows 2000 Professional and Windows XP—and allow users to select one upon first booting their new machines."Microsoft will no longer offer dual installation but will offer downgrade rights in Windows XP," confirmed a spokeswoman for the company's licensing division."Previously, with dual install, a customer had to pick just one of the two operating systems and then stick with the one they chose. With downgrade rights, a customer can install an older operating system and move back up to Windows XP whenever they choose," the spokeswoman added.

Complete article here.
I know this will upset many. Can someone make this a sticky?

Dec 12, 2002, 08:36 AM

Well even if they do we can still use a third party boot manager.

look at the win98 situation that overwrites the mbr of another OS without giving you the option of dual boot.

But when you think of it ,i say it falls into the monopoly laws and wont be allowed.

Krychek57 · Dec 12, 2002, 03:27 PM

And why would it not be allowed? They are take away the option of BUYING a dual boot system with MICROSOFT OS's on it. they arn't taking away the right to do it, just buy it. Dual OS's isn't supported by Microsoft anyway, so why buy a machine that isn't supported from the get go without your intervention.

UberLord · Dec 12, 2002, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by DriveEuro
I know this will upset many.

I don't think it will upset anyone too much.
This only applies to OEM machines with pre-installed installation images.

Basically, when you power the PC on for the first time it asks you "Do you want to install Windows 2000 or Windows XP?". It installs an removes the installation images.

They want to change this to this. Windows XP loads. After it's loaded you then get the option saying "Do you want to degrade to Windows 2000?" If you choose no, it removes the Windows 2000 installation image, you if choose yes it launches the Windows 2000 image and removes Windows XP.

MS are not allowed - after a recent ruling - to ban any dual boot machines from leaving the factory. What they are banning are multiple MS dual boots from leaving the factory and that's a big difference.

So as I said, consumers won't be affected by this too much. It's mainly OEM pirates that will be affected.

DriveEuro · Dec 13, 2002, 10:46 PM

Can someone un-sticky this? I feel dumb now..

UberLord · Dec 14, 2002, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Can someone un-sticky this? I feel dumb now..

You only feel dumb?

Soz - j/k

UberLord · Dec 14, 2002, 12:36 PM

Unstickied

El_Coyote · Dec 14, 2002, 12:51 PM

you can always use a linux but manager... no problem there...

reno · Dec 15, 2002, 01:11 AM

Linux Butt Manager? Where can I get my *hands* on that? haha...get it? d'oh....

DriveEuro · Dec 15, 2002, 06:34 PM

....haha.......not funny.

reno · Dec 22, 2002, 04:33 PM

I agree, whoever wrote that is a dork.

Dec 13, 2002, 10:46 PM	Thread Starter #5
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Can someone un-sticky this? I feel dumb now.. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

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Dec 15, 2002, 01:11 AM	#9
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	gds Linux Butt Manager? Where can I get my hands on that? haha...get it? d'oh....

Dec 15, 2002, 06:34 PM	Thread Starter #10
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	....haha.......not funny. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Dec 12, 2002, 08:36 AM	#2
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	Well even if they do we can still use a third party boot manager. look at the win98 situation that overwrites the mbr of another OS without giving you the option of dual boot. But when you think of it ,i say it falls into the monopoly laws and wont be allowed.

Dec 12, 2002, 03:27 PM	#3
Krychek57 Long time lurker Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Parkland, WA Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	And why would it not be allowed? They are take away the option of BUYING a dual boot system with MICROSOFT OS's on it. they arn't taking away the right to do it, just buy it. Dual OS's isn't supported by Microsoft anyway, so why buy a machine that isn't supported from the get go without your intervention.

Dec 22, 2002, 04:33 PM	#11
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	gdgh I agree, whoever wrote that is a dork.