Windows 64 Questions (& Answers)

PandaZ3 · Feb 20, 2006, 11:29 AM

$9 software... well they have some favorable feedback, I think it is the same Win XP Professional x64 from the text.

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1778.html

Necrosis · Feb 20, 2006, 06:42 PM

I placed the order, so I will let you know how it turns out.

BTW, what firewalls are you folks running /w this?

Judas · Feb 20, 2006, 07:16 PM

Just the supplied XP 64 Firewall coupled with my Xincom Router

Software firewalls i find quite useless and if anyone wants in... they get around it....

PandaZ3 · Feb 20, 2006, 07:18 PM

I am using Avast for AV, because it was the only one that supported x64 at the time, I "THINK" that the new Norton will work too, but I am not sure. I use MS anti Spyware, that does some firewall functions, lets see , Spyblaster, Spybot and AdAware are in the mix too. I am behind a router which helps. I do not have a Dyed-in-the-Wool software firewall.

Necrosis · Feb 21, 2006, 12:05 AM

It's already shipped. Hmm..I used just about the same software too. I normally like a software also running to prevent anything from going out I don't want to. I'm using Avast as well, no way in hell I'll use Blorton. However, I have noticed the built in windows firewall actually asks about letting some software going out. Which is something I never seen on XP before. Oh well eventually some thing will be available. There is always the beta from Zonelabs.

e v o · Feb 22, 2006, 12:31 AM

hi guys, sorry if this has been answered before, but...

what are the differences between windows x64 pro and x64 vista?

thanks

Necrosis · Feb 22, 2006, 12:54 AM

Haha hmmm

One thing XP x64 isn't littered with DRM crap.

e v o · Feb 22, 2006, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

Haha hmmm

One thing XP x64 isn't littered with DRM crap.

yeah thats one thing i read about. So does vista mean the end to modded drivers? From what i read, xp pro x64 is just a modified version of xp pro 32, while vista is a completely new OS. Not that either excite me much

just read theres gunna be 8 different versions, seems a tad bit too much

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...a_editions.asp

Snickers · Feb 22, 2006, 04:07 AM

XP Pro X64 is really based off 2003 more than XP X86.

Heard about the 8 editions of vista before, just another way M$ makes things complicated.

Necrosis · Feb 22, 2006, 04:09 AM

Pretty much what Snickers said.

If you want to give XP x64 a try you can download the trial. Just remember it's rather picky about what printer it will work with.

g35x · Feb 22, 2006, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snickers

Heard about the 8 editions of vista before, just another way M$ makes things complicated.

so true.......

Necrosis · Feb 26, 2006, 07:26 AM

I imagine most of you know about this by now. If not, and you run FireFox you might find this interesting

http://www.vector64.com/

X64 Firefox!! The only issues is Java & Flash.

Necrosis · Feb 28, 2006, 12:42 AM

My software finally came in so it's good to go. Thinking about getting a new Raptor for the OS install this weekend.

MythicaL · Feb 28, 2006, 03:53 AM

I'm really liking XP x64

By the way, has Starforce bothered to update their drivers yet?

Necrosis · Feb 28, 2006, 04:45 AM

I don't know. A lot of manufactures are releasing new drives soon. So I imagine they're waiting for those to come so they can screw them up too.

Kapitan · Mar 1, 2006, 11:07 PM

i've installed x64 since 3 days.

My opinion is that is not his time yet.

I don't have driver for bluetooth, integrate webcam
and for the memory card reader.

Firefox 64 bit is fast very fast but doesn't have the
java and flash support. For a normal navigation this
is a great problem.

I was very astonished viewing the 7zip 64 bit edition speed...

I think that is better to install a 64 bit linux...maybe is less
problematic on finding software and drivers.

So i think i'll return to 32 bit XP and maybe with a Debian 64 bit together.

PandaZ3 · Mar 2, 2006, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan

Firefox 64 bit is fast very fast but doesn't have the
java and flash support. For a normal navigation this
is a great problem.

IE 64 is also very fast but without Java and Flash support

merlinxi · Mar 2, 2006, 02:01 AM

Using Windows X64 eliminated my skipping/stuttering in my ATI card.

PandaZ3 · Mar 2, 2006, 02:17 AM

I have used two AGP cards with it, a 9500 Pro and now a X800 Pro and they work great, but they did XP Home too.

Necrosis · Mar 2, 2006, 02:51 AM

I have the trial version installed right now. However, this weekend I have a raptor coming in & I'll be installing the full version on that.

PangingJr · Mar 2, 2006, 05:30 AM

the new Raptor 150 GB?

Necrosis · Mar 2, 2006, 04:10 PM

Indeed

Judas · Mar 2, 2006, 04:38 PM

i'm still debating if i should get 4 150gb raptors....erm....

PangingJr · Mar 3, 2006, 01:57 AM

why not, don't you want to see how fast these drives can pump data across the disk drives and RAID systems?

and Necrosis, i knew you want to try it, i think it must be a good drive and good use for you.
how much was it, with tax? if you don't mind...

Necrosis · Mar 3, 2006, 02:55 AM

I'm typing this on the trial version. I was lucky enough that all the software I use, and periphals work & have x64 drivers. Heck, even my Matrix Orbital LCD has drivers!

$285.00 /w shipping & no tax. I paid $119.00 for XP x64 /w free shipping.

The only way to really know if it's going to work for is to try it. Some people have issues, and some don't. It's a blessing to me since I'm not sold on Vista.

PangingJr · Mar 3, 2006, 04:03 AM

$285.00 USD for a 150 GB drive might seem to be a bit costly to you. as for this drive i'll have to pay a lot more than that. live in the US has numerous advantages over many other countries, the US has a very wide and lot of competitive market on most of retail computer parts (and some other things too).

as for the Vista, i don't really care about this OS right now, when it goes final then i'll try out the OS, will probably borrow an OEM builds machine with the OS and try it out. and see what i want to do with my own.

Necrosis · Mar 3, 2006, 04:23 AM

Tell me about. I've heard of some of the prices other folks pay in other countries. It's totally insane even /w some manufactures residing in said countries.

PangingJr · Mar 4, 2006, 08:09 AM

the XP 64-Bit edition would cost me about 50-60% more than you've paid for yours.
i have the OS about a month or so after it's has been released. then after i actually use it, i think it is a very good operating system.

as you may have heard before that this OS will not going to become a mainstream computing platform (not like its brother 32-bit version, the next mainstream Windows platform will be the Vista. and i think the Vista 64-Bit will become increasingly mainstream over its 32-bit).
i assuming, once you have tried the OS, you've found it's good and it's your current favorite OS which is the same as mine.

Necrosis · Mar 4, 2006, 09:53 PM

Raptor installed /w XP x64. No issues or problems just very sick quickness.

Gardinen · Mar 4, 2006, 10:55 PM

Got mine Raptor X 150 a few days ago, and MAN it's fast. And reading this thread makes me thinking of maybe buying WinXPx64.

Feb 20, 2006, 11:29 AM	#31
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	$9 software... well they have some favorable feedback, I think it is the same Win XP Professional x64 from the text. http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1778.html __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Feb 20, 2006, 07:18 PM	#34
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	I am using Avast for AV, because it was the only one that supported x64 at the time, I "THINK" that the new Norton will work too, but I am not sure. I use MS anti Spyware, that does some firewall functions, lets see , Spyblaster, Spybot and AdAware are in the mix too. I am behind a router which helps. I do not have a Dyed-in-the-Wool software firewall. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Feb 22, 2006, 12:31 AM	#36
e v o HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,037 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	hi guys, sorry if this has been answered before, but... what are the differences between windows x64 pro and x64 vista? thanks __________________

Feb 22, 2006, 04:07 AM	#39
Snickers DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 0	XP Pro X64 is really based off 2003 more than XP X86. Heard about the 8 editions of vista before, just another way M$ makes things complicated. __________________ AMD Athlon 3400+ @ 2.4 GHz 200 MHz FSB 2x512mb Kingston PC4000 DDR500 HyperX + 1x512mb Kingston PC3200 DDR400 ValueRAM (yes stable) nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT 370/1000 MHz ASUS K8V-X Motherboard VIA K8T800 chipset Antec 400W PSU Audigy2 ZS Windows XP Professional

Feb 28, 2006, 03:53 AM	#44
MythicaL I like computers. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In front of a monitor Posts: 3,399 Rep Power: 87 System Specs	I'm really liking XP x64 By the way, has Starforce bothered to update their drivers yet? __________________ Always knew I didn't belong in this world. I wasn't made for this. But I'll never forget those who betrayed me, and those who never failed my trust.

Feb 20, 2006, 06:42 PM	#32
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	I placed the order, so I will let you know how it turns out. BTW, what firewalls are you folks running /w this?

Feb 21, 2006, 12:05 AM	#35
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	It's already shipped. Hmm..I used just about the same software too. I normally like a software also running to prevent anything from going out I don't want to. I'm using Avast as well, no way in hell I'll use Blorton. However, I have noticed the built in windows firewall actually asks about letting some software going out. Which is something I never seen on XP before. Oh well eventually some thing will be available. There is always the beta from Zonelabs.

Feb 22, 2006, 12:54 AM	#37
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Haha hmmm One thing XP x64 isn't littered with DRM crap.

Feb 22, 2006, 04:09 AM	#40
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Pretty much what Snickers said. If you want to give XP x64 a try you can download the trial. Just remember it's rather picky about what printer it will work with.

Feb 26, 2006, 07:26 AM	#42
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	I imagine most of you know about this by now. If not, and you run FireFox you might find this interesting http://www.vector64.com/ X64 Firefox!! The only issues is Java & Flash.

Feb 28, 2006, 12:42 AM	#43
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	My software finally came in so it's good to go. Thinking about getting a new Raptor for the OS install this weekend.

Feb 28, 2006, 04:45 AM	#45
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	I don't know. A lot of manufactures are releasing new drives soon. So I imagine they're waiting for those to come so they can screw them up too.

Mar 1, 2006, 11:07 PM	#46
Kapitan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	i've installed x64 since 3 days. My opinion is that is not his time yet. I don't have driver for bluetooth, integrate webcam and for the memory card reader. Firefox 64 bit is fast very fast but doesn't have the java and flash support. For a normal navigation this is a great problem. I was very astonished viewing the 7zip 64 bit edition speed... I think that is better to install a 64 bit linux...maybe is less problematic on finding software and drivers. So i think i'll return to 32 bit XP and maybe with a Debian 64 bit together.

Mar 2, 2006, 02:01 AM	#48
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	Using Windows X64 eliminated my skipping/stuttering in my ATI card. __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Mar 2, 2006, 02:17 AM	#49
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	I have used two AGP cards with it, a 9500 Pro and now a X800 Pro and they work great, but they did XP Home too. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Mar 2, 2006, 02:51 AM	#50
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	I have the trial version installed right now. However, this weekend I have a raptor coming in & I'll be installing the full version on that.

Mar 2, 2006, 05:30 AM	#51
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	the new Raptor 150 GB?

Mar 2, 2006, 04:10 PM	#52
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Indeed

Mar 3, 2006, 01:57 AM	#54
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	why not, don't you want to see how fast these drives can pump data across the disk drives and RAID systems? and Necrosis, i knew you want to try it, i think it must be a good drive and good use for you. how much was it, with tax? if you don't mind...

Mar 3, 2006, 02:55 AM	#55
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	I'm typing this on the trial version. I was lucky enough that all the software I use, and periphals work & have x64 drivers. Heck, even my Matrix Orbital LCD has drivers! $285.00 /w shipping & no tax. I paid $119.00 for XP x64 /w free shipping. The only way to really know if it's going to work for is to try it. Some people have issues, and some don't. It's a blessing to me since I'm not sold on Vista.

Mar 3, 2006, 04:03 AM	#56
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	$285.00 USD for a 150 GB drive might seem to be a bit costly to you. as for this drive i'll have to pay a lot more than that. live in the US has numerous advantages over many other countries, the US has a very wide and lot of competitive market on most of retail computer parts (and some other things too). as for the Vista, i don't really care about this OS right now, when it goes final then i'll try out the OS, will probably borrow an OEM builds machine with the OS and try it out. and see what i want to do with my own.

Mar 3, 2006, 04:23 AM	#57
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Tell me about. I've heard of some of the prices other folks pay in other countries. It's totally insane even /w some manufactures residing in said countries.

Mar 4, 2006, 08:09 AM	#58
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	the XP 64-Bit edition would cost me about 50-60% more than you've paid for yours. i have the OS about a month or so after it's has been released. then after i actually use it, i think it is a very good operating system. as you may have heard before that this OS will not going to become a mainstream computing platform (not like its brother 32-bit version, the next mainstream Windows platform will be the Vista. and i think the Vista 64-Bit will become increasingly mainstream over its 32-bit). i assuming, once you have tried the OS, you've found it's good and it's your current favorite OS which is the same as mine.

Mar 4, 2006, 09:53 PM	#59
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Raptor installed /w XP x64. No issues or problems just very sick quickness.

Mar 4, 2006, 10:55 PM	#60
Gardinen DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Trollhättan, Sweden Posts: 512 Rep Power: 0	Got mine Raptor X 150 a few days ago, and MAN it's fast. And reading this thread makes me thinking of maybe buying WinXPx64.